SPANKYSN
Legend
Bronze Level
Pocket Jacks usually plays itself out...you should probably raise with them preflop, fold to an ace or king, and bet big if the flop has undercards...but fate plays a role. There are many hands that go all the way to the river that can beat JJ...it's a cross your fingers and hope for the best kind of hand.
Phoenix Wright
Legend
Loyaler
JJ is tricky for sure; in fact, ask poker players what trouble hands they have. Chances are that JJ is high on most lists. It is a great hand preflop, but a higher pocket pair has us crushed and even one A,K or Q on the board always makes us slightly concerned. I think JJ gives many players trouble in great part because they can't fold when they should. Facing aggression with a Flop of say AK4 rainbow - I think we can usually only call maybe one bet - if that! Obviously better if we have position or some strong draw etc. but in cases like this, we must be willing to fold without getting attached to our hand.
JJ is still a powerful hand though - don't forget that one overcard present doesn't mean the opponent has it. On a flop like Q22, I don't love my hand because of the obvious Queen making trips, but we still might hold the best hand. Especially if it goes check once or twice early on here. Similarly, if the board is QQ2, then I like our JJ because trip Queens is less likely as we see two of them on the board. Perhaps even better is if the other card is likely to connect the opponent if we beat it like QQT when we hold JJ. Board texture is just as important as the opponent, but JJ is still a great preflop hand if you are humble enough to muck it when the heat becomes too much.
lol I see where you are coming from here, but I disagree with playing JJ this way. It is too strong of a hand to be attempting blind steals with. I'd prefer to make a blind steal with some potential to hit like A2s or 98s given that I get in cheap enough. These hands I can easily muck if I don't like what I see comes up. JJ is too good of a hand to attempt a blind steal with as your default.
Yeah okay, we aren't usually too sure with JJ unless we hit a set (or flush/straight later on etc.) but we are still ahead most of the time.
Define "premium" here
I consider JJ a "premium" pair (in fact, many consider any pair of 99+ premium). However, by my definition of "premium" I mean more like top 5% (or so) of hands preflop. This is not to say that JJ should be played for All-in because who would call an All-in against your JJ? Probably AA or KK (surely premium hands) and maybe even QQ or AK etc. The way I approach this is that JJ is "premium" in the sense that it is usually ahead, but not a hand you want to get attached to if too many bets or raises go into the pot.
+1 I think JJ and TT play similarly. QQ as well, but this is a little better for me because we dominate the likely AQ and lower Ax hands. This doesn't give us complete confidence because of AA, KK and maybe even AK by the opponent(s), but these are all great starting hands in my opinion - as long as you are willing to fold them and cut your losses when those times come.
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It is a tricky hand to play for sure though. Just don't over-value JJ and I think things will usually go well
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RUNRRUNRTO
Rock Star
Bronze Level
JJ is just a pair that is often over valued and over played, especially after the flop. Played correctly and you can take down huge pots but it can also have the reverse effect and get you into a lot of trouble. Great to be holding if you’re short stacked not so great if you’re out of position and presented with a drawing board on the flop.
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Jedrey
Visionary
Bronze Level
I have no superstition with JJ, on the contrary, I love playing with them.
For me it has been very lucky, I tend to increase 3bb pre-flop, on the flop depending on which turn I raise or limp to see if someone will raise.
Post-flop I raise and go like this, if the table is in my favor.
For me it has worked very well.
For me it has been very lucky, I tend to increase 3bb pre-flop, on the flop depending on which turn I raise or limp to see if someone will raise.
Post-flop I raise and go like this, if the table is in my favor.
For me it has worked very well.
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Pokerman32750
Rock Star
Silver Level
Exactly I've been sucked out in micro and low stakes, raised and getting called pre flop.. Flop shows rainbow blank and donkey fish still shoves with Ace plus anything off suit and manages to land a horseshoe on the turn or river!
thedarkman
Legend
Platinum Level
Jacks can be a problem hand. If you raise with them pre-flop and an overcard flops, they are mostly dead.
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63burner
Visionary
Bronze Level
JJ no superstition.
In America, JJ isn't considered a premium hand. There is no aura or superstition. Although it is superior to numbered pairs, it is a lesser hand, in the respect that it doesn't connect; misses all but the highest numbers.
And the highest cards, you are often in the ignorant, lower end of straights and flushes with JJ.
It takes a high level of skill reading the table, other players to be able to consistently win with JJ.
In America, JJ isn't considered a premium hand. There is no aura or superstition. Although it is superior to numbered pairs, it is a lesser hand, in the respect that it doesn't connect; misses all but the highest numbers.
And the highest cards, you are often in the ignorant, lower end of straights and flushes with JJ.
It takes a high level of skill reading the table, other players to be able to consistently win with JJ.
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Hemified
Visionary
Bronze Level
Not in usa that I know of. I get jj or any pocket pair im raising but sometimes I slow roll if I think every1 will fold so good luck. I don't really believe in that superstition stuff or karma I guess.
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My girlfriends lil kid was bugging out about a ghost in the closet so I got carb cleaner and lighter and opened up the closet and lit that ghost up. No worrys now.
Kid been sleeping good ever since then..
Ended up being a lil mouse.