NCfoldem
Rock Star
Silver Level
Automatic -10 for sarcasm .
Yeah, that's me, power trippin' all day long.
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
dmorris68
Legend
Loyaler
Look around, you don't see it happening all over the forum. People just don't like obnoxious, condescending, asshats, and that's exactly what you're being in this thread. Junior H.S.? Look in the mirror. You can't shutup after insulting the people you "asked for help" from, and then you want to challenge the forum staff who are telling you to pipe down. That's immature and disrespectful, and you imply that we're immature? Grow up, dude. I think you'd be more welcome at another forum, you'd fit right in at one in particular...
At this point, I'd save my breath.
NCfoldem
Rock Star
Silver Level
Will do right now. Thank you - will do. I can see that I need hand info to get further help. Possibly the best reason of all to get those danged things, so others can see specifically what I'm doing wrong. But do they track free rolls?
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
Let me spell it out for you - if you want to remain a member of this forum then be respectful to members and particularly the staff.
And read dmorris's post above which says everything else I was going to say.
This ends this discussion publicly - if you have anymore complaints send me a pm but keep the crap out of this thread.
NCfoldem
Rock Star
Silver Level
I'm doin' it. Thanks for rising above everything.
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ph_il
...
Silver Level
I pay more rake trying to multi-table SNGs...and I don't make as much in return. I should look into this cash game thing...
Mortis
The Saurus
Loyaler
Yeah, I didn't go into a lot of detail on what I meant, lol.
Obviously the ones who have built their bankroll from little or nothing and have used BRM to get to the higher stakes are going to be good players... but there are players who just throw in their cash at high stakes as well, trying to start there.
So, there are going to be bad players at every level.
Ronaldadio
Legend
Silver Level
Just as a point.
I think people in general have a style that is suited to different types of poker, ring games, SNG`s, MTT`s, Limit, NL, PL.
Like the OP, I suck at ring games - I never know when to stop. As an example, I played rush poker 2 days ago to pass a bit of time. I started with $10, dropped down to about $4, then hit a pot and took me up to $23.
Now, at that stage I thought "One more hand then I leave" However, I ended up playing for another hour, lost most of my chips and left the table with $4.
Playing MTT & SNG`s are easier for me as there is a definate start and finish.
So people seem to go down the route of "Cash games are the games top players play", etc. As far as I am concerned, play the form and type of poker you win money at.
So, to sum up, find out what is your best game and stick to it.
I think people in general have a style that is suited to different types of poker, ring games, SNG`s, MTT`s, Limit, NL, PL.
Like the OP, I suck at ring games - I never know when to stop. As an example, I played rush poker 2 days ago to pass a bit of time. I started with $10, dropped down to about $4, then hit a pot and took me up to $23.
Now, at that stage I thought "One more hand then I leave" However, I ended up playing for another hour, lost most of my chips and left the table with $4.
Playing MTT & SNG`s are easier for me as there is a definate start and finish.
So people seem to go down the route of "Cash games are the games top players play", etc. As far as I am concerned, play the form and type of poker you win money at.
So, to sum up, find out what is your best game and stick to it.
claudel
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I just saw a video on fulltilt sit-n-learn , where a pro guy said that is better to play smaller stakes to increase easier yor BR, but you cand chose the size of the stakes by the size of your bankroll...
Like the guy before, find out what suits you and stick to it
Like the guy before, find out what suits you and stick to it
doops
Visionary
Silver Level
I recently read an article by Mike Caro (at the Doyle's Room website) in which he talks about the fact that great players can win with a hand that poor players would lose with. He also notes that excellent players make more off their good hands.
The article was, apparently, in response to the perception that "Durrr wins with that hand!" or "Hansen raised with garbage!" The point is that, because their post-flop play and player reads are superior to that of poor-average players, they can (at times) do well with hands that others might fold. They have a clue what size bet may get the other guy thinking about folding. And they know what it means when the other guy reraises. They know where the fold button is when their play didn't work.
In sum, you may see even the best players playing relatively crappy hands. But they may be playing the other player. It's a deeper game.
So, for the purpose of this thread, I would guess that the cards people hold may not be better at higher limits -- but they can roll right over most of us without having monsters. At least some of the time. Average players have a hard time at higher limits.
The article was, apparently, in response to the perception that "Durrr wins with that hand!" or "Hansen raised with garbage!" The point is that, because their post-flop play and player reads are superior to that of poor-average players, they can (at times) do well with hands that others might fold. They have a clue what size bet may get the other guy thinking about folding. And they know what it means when the other guy reraises. They know where the fold button is when their play didn't work.
In sum, you may see even the best players playing relatively crappy hands. But they may be playing the other player. It's a deeper game.
So, for the purpose of this thread, I would guess that the cards people hold may not be better at higher limits -- but they can roll right over most of us without having monsters. At least some of the time. Average players have a hard time at higher limits.
Sean Pilgrim
Legend
Silver Level
HU4Rollz?
Sean Pilgrim
Legend
Silver Level
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AntiKhrist
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I tend to find that they are a bit easier. At least the skill level can't be complained about as much. So sick of playing at lower levels because the players are such garbage! I can't wait until I start getting some more income so I can start playing at higher levels again.
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Leatherass
DTB Coach
Silver Level
I didn't read through this entire thread, but oh dear God no. The higher the stakes the better the players. Sure, you may find a game or two where this is not true, but 99% of the time, the higher you play the better the competition.
Poker Orifice
FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
NC you should consider taking this offer imo... it'd be somewhat like playing a DoN but instead w 3 players & you are two of them (in other words..... this guy here is offering you a great deal here... I would strongly advise taking it!)
Sean Pilgrim
Legend
Silver Level
I don't understand how he counts as two people...
Let's Go Go Go!
full tilt poker Game #22508738083: Table La Cruz (heads up) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:58:30 ET - 2010/07/22
Seat 1: Acidgrinder ($2,168.90)
Seat 2: IWannaPlay1kNL ($979.50)
Acidgrinder posts the small blind of $5
IWannaPlay1kNL posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IWannaPlay1kNL [9s 6c]
Acidgrinder raises to $20
IWannaPlay1kNL raises to $30
Acidgrinder calls $10
*** FLOP *** [9h 8c 6d]
IWannaPlay1kNL checks
Acidgrinder bets $50
IWannaPlay1kNL raises to $210
Acidgrinder has 15 seconds left to act
Acidgrinder has requested TIME
Acidgrinder raises to $420
IWannaPlay1kNL raises to $949.50, and is all in
Acidgrinder calls $529.50
Players agree to Run It Twice
IWannaPlay1kNL shows [9s 6c]
Acidgrinder shows [8s 7d]
*** TURN 1 *** [9h 8c 6d] 4♣
*** RIVER 1 *** [9h 8c 6d 4c] K♥
*** TURN 2 *** [9h 8c 6d] 9♣
*** RIVER 2 *** [9h 8c 6d 9c] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN 1 ***
IWannaPlay1kNL shows two pair, Nines and Sixes
Acidgrinder shows a pair of Eights
*** SHOW DOWN 2 ***
IWannaPlay1kNL shows a full house, Nines full of Sixes
Acidgrinder shows a straight, Ten high
IWannaPlay1kNL wins pot 1 ($979) with two pair, Nines and Sixes
IWannaPlay1kNL wins pot 2 ($979) with a full house, Nines full of Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1,959 | Rake $1
*** SUMMARY 1 ***
Pot 1 $979
Board: [9h 8c 6d 4c Kh]
Seat 1: Acidgrinder (small blind) showed [8s 7d] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 2: IWannaPlay1kNL (big blind) showed [9s 6c] and won ($979) with two pair, Nines and Sixes
*** SUMMARY 2 ***
Pot 2 $979
Board: [9h 8c 6d 9c Td]
Seat 1: Acidgrinder (small blind) showed [8s 7d] and lost with a straight, Ten high
Seat 2: IWannaPlay1kNL (big blind) showed [9s 6c] and won ($979) with a full house, Nines full of Sixes
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I can suck out too...
Full Tilt poker game #22508774209: Table La Cruz (heads up) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:01:09 ET - 2010/07/22
Seat 1: Acidgrinder ($1,258.40)
Seat 2: IWannaPlay1kNL ($1,888)
IWannaPlay1kNL posts the small blind of $5
Acidgrinder posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IWannaPlay1kNL [Td Qs]
IWannaPlay1kNL raises to $30
Acidgrinder raises to $100
IWannaPlay1kNL calls $70
*** FLOP *** [Qd Jd 4c]
Acidgrinder bets $170
IWannaPlay1kNL calls $170
*** TURN *** [Qd Jd 4c] 2♣
Acidgrinder bets $430
IWannaPlay1kNL calls $430
*** RIVER *** [Qd Jd 4c 2c] 2♦
Acidgrinder bets $558.40, and is all in
IWannaPlay1kNL calls $558.40
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Acidgrinder shows [4h Jh] two pair, Jacks and Fours
IWannaPlay1kNL shows [Td Qs] two pair, Queens and Twos
IWannaPlay1kNL wins the pot ($2,516.30) with two pair, Queens and Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2,516.80 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Qd Jd 4c 2c 2d]
Seat 1: Acidgrinder (big blind) showed [4h Jh] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Fours
Seat 2: IWannaPlay1kNL (small blind) showed [Td Qs] and won ($2,516.30) with two pair, Queens and Twos
