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rhombus
Legend
Silver Level
combination of reads/heart and maths
If you have a gut feeling they have top pair then you need the math to work out if your draw is getting the required odds
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pokervike
Rock Star
Silver Level
Are you also including opening and or calling hands pre-flop? Or is this a post flop type of question?
Too be completely honest, I feel most people are in way too many hands pre-flop and then stuck with either getting shoved on too often or getting called incorrectly when somebody may have thought you were drawing and not defending. So I guess that means I don't represent math or heart separately Personally, I'm in a hand for 3 reasons only pre-flop. 1) Hand strength, 2) Implied odds with good EV or I've decided that another player who I think is going to stay in a hand that I feel confident I can range them and I can beat them either IP or OP.
Post flop opens up a brand new pair of shoes for me to put on. 1) more than 2 in the hand I've got a few mores but unless I hammer the flop I'm not looking to give more than one opponent a free ride to the rivers edge. 2) The time has come, make a play! Not always on the flop either. I like to shuffle C-betting bluffs and strong hands on either the flop or turn just to keep action when I want it and dump it or scare it away by MY action not the opponents. 3) I have a hand. If the village idiot shows up the price of admission just went up. If I feel somebody might get scared away I take a timid approach. If the board is wet I try to keep it cheap then fill the bill with hidden charges!
SO i guess my heart dictates my math but my value is based on how much I'm worth in my heart! I would find it very hard to believe that a successful player uses only one. pot odds, EV and ICM (for tourneys) are great tools to reach for but in the end fold losers, bet winners. That, is where the money is at!
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Arfer
Rising Star
Bronze Level
veronica
Visionary
Silver Level
the truth just be outside in a tournament I had AA dode VS 88 and lost against a trio of 8, there I wonder math or heart ??
the idea that truth is no longer think , when you want to play well these things happen and we return to business as usual luck ??? ability ??? perseverance ???? patience ???? idea are things that only the games often go , but good for those who do not like to lose these things tend to pull us down I encourage this is my case at this time.
the idea that truth is no longer think , when you want to play well these things happen and we return to business as usual luck ??? ability ??? perseverance ???? patience ???? idea are things that only the games often go , but good for those who do not like to lose these things tend to pull us down I encourage this is my case at this time.
PapaC
Legend
Silver Level
I have always went with the heart. Feelings have a lot to say about the game. I seen a lot of hands that if I had called, I would have won, but I had my own doubts instead of using my heart. I really think that both are there together, and you work it when you need one or the other
lukaszkrzi
Rock Star
Silver Level
In cash games I like to see flop as cheap as possible, unless I have something good so I bet 3 bet to get rid off weaker hands. I do put notes on people or colours, so I can predict what players action are like they play passive, or they try to trap me before etc. since its important to separate bad players from good players that use tactics.
In Sit&Go I just try to see flops cheaply with hands that have potential and also wait for players to eliminate each other.
You can watch my 3$ sit&go 9handed replayer: http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/session/2829171/replay/
In MTT its mix of both plus bigger variance.
I always trust my feelings and I can smell some traps when they come based on the player.
In Sit&Go I just try to see flops cheaply with hands that have potential and also wait for players to eliminate each other.
You can watch my 3$ sit&go 9handed replayer: http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/session/2829171/replay/
In MTT its mix of both plus bigger variance.
I always trust my feelings and I can smell some traps when they come based on the player.
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AlexandriaVP
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Nananoko Told me that you have to follow your gut because your "hunch" is all your experience telling you what to do all your observations the ones you make when you know your making them and the ones you don't know your making your gut is telling you "I've been here before, this is what I should do" That being said you have to be careful not to be result oriented meaning "8-8, last time i would have caught. So All-in this time" you want make a plan and follow through while adjusting you strategy to suit the situation