Cash Game players are more intelligent.

[vov4ik]

I do not know how to say there is a small difference, there are players in the cash game smarter but not all and there are too few smart tournaments in them, I'm not saying that I'm just thinking over the situation, in a tournament or cash game everyone wants to raise chips or quickly raise money It does not get all the players are almost equal cards decide whether you win or not

 

[Supmargy]

I feel like without case study it's really ****ing stupid to conclude this based on your opinion.

Even if there's a difference in intelligence, it'll probably be really small since we're still playing the same game. Just a different format.
You might be on to something comparing tag to chess, but cash vs tournament? Get to the lowest level, and they'll be equally stupid, or at least do equally stupid stuff. Get to the highest level and they'll be equally intelligent.

 

[Poker Orifice]

I didn't say cash game has something that's missing in tournaments. I say that in general to be a winning cash player you need more skills as in cash it's all about the postflop decisions whereas in MTT you don't face them that much. There are different stages yep, but most of the time you need a good strategy and good preflop. Once you're short eg 30bb and lower, your decisions are rather simple. Actually I'm not trying to get into this endless argument cash vs MTT, I am an MTT player myself btw
And not to mention that a lot of successful MTT players were/are cash players first and than moved to playing tournaments since the field are softer while there are not that much stories about doing the opposite.

Great response ^

 

[Poker Orifice]

Seems like a very unintelligent post here by OP.
... am I missing something?

 

[ruffcut68]

play cash to get the $$ to enter the tournaments so say a lot of pros

 

[pokgirl]

I was playing by cash in Texas Hold'em and I hold my "poker face" so it demands some intellect

 

[makisaa]

I do not think that someone of two are smarter. Ithink tournaments are more difficult and they need more skills. You are not considering the maths in poker, which in tournaments are very important.

 

[Roger1960]

I used to shy away from cash games, I was afraid of losing my whole bank roll at once instead of slowly. lol
I have lately been playing cash tables because of not cashing in tourneys as much as I would like. I remembered before "the big crash" in online poker for the US. I was getting more into cash games and doing real well. I went from getting checks from poker stars to not being able to play at all.
I do find that cash games are easier for me, I don't have to play a hand because I will be blinded out soon. If I go card dead, no big deal I will wait it out. I think that a player being more patient is better suited for cash games.

 

[myuk1]

cash games and tournament require very different mentalities. i dont think its far to say that cash game players are more intelligent. its too large of a generalization and is not really fair to someone that has more experience in one over the other

 

[Drhat63]

Sounds like a post from an up-swinging "cash" game player. I thinks it's really hard to compare the "intelligence" of either style, we can concede that ALL GOOD poker players have a level of intelligence, higher than most black-jack players.

 

[evno2011]

Former Tourney player now Cash

I used to enjoy tourney games. I could play looser and more free spirited. Cash games are more thoughtful and planned for me. I find myself liking cash games more and more.

 

[MikeD123]

Both Negreanu and Esfandiari make their living from cash games, I don't care what the 'Negranu is a tournament diehard' media tells you, he earns at cash games spends at tourns, just like all pros do.

Esfandiari shouldn't be mentioned as equal to negranu that's a poker sin.

 

[Sil3ntness]

You cannot really compare tournaments and cash games. Like mentioned earlier it's like comparing apples and oranges. They both have their pros and cons. The variance in multi table tournaments is HUGE though. Bubbling several tournaments in a row can be very soul crushing.

If all the smart players played cash games then only rake would be winning in the long haul. There are plenty of smart players that play tournaments. Like mentioned before there is plenty of things to consider during tournaments: ICM, fold equity vs scared players, position + big stack to steal chips from the smaller stacks, knowing when to call, raise, fold at certain stack sizes WHILE still considering ICM factors. Playing heads up, 3 handed, when you make it to the big money stages of a tournament.

Cash game is a whole different beast. You're dealing with rake for each hand, tipping (live), 3 barrel bluffing and not having to worry about ICM suicide, making the RIGHT EV+ decision every time, and etc. Usually cash games also play deeper so you will see a lot more speculative hands in the mix. It makes calling a 100 BB shove a hell of a lot harder decision when you only have top pair compared to 10 BBs.

I'm ranting, but each version of poker has its unique circumstances. If tournaments were full of less intelligent players, then all the smart players should be playing tournaments.

 

[vitorbonatto]

i started with cash and the money came easy and fast, but some days has pass and o started to lose it all... even i learning everyday more about post flop game, it seems harder to get lucrative in the end of the session

 

[1noname1]

do not agree, it's also the same to say that a runner is 100 meters better runner for marathon distances.

 

[Brazenly]

I prefer tourneys instead of cash games. When i start a tourney just pay an entry fee, but when i play cash games i feel different because i bet real money not chips. Probably ppl who are good at cash games are good at torneys. But speaking for my self i think when some1 plays torneys he's not good at cash games

 

[Royal_074]

I agree that cash-game players more intelligent: maybe because they are more cautious..

 

[parks124]

Oh, lol ... It's really funny ... The game for cash tables is much easier, because it does not require consideration of such factors as the position in the tournament, the bubble and much more. You just accept standard solutions. Any well-configured bot can play the cache.

I totally agree with this. When you factor in the hours upon hours you have to play in the tourney with minimal/short breaks, plus the factors you mentioned, I find cash tables to be much easier.

 

[jefrock21]

Tournament (well good ones) players are more patient. You have potential for hire return on investment, plus, one bad beat can take away your entire bankroll, where tournament poker is a controlled investment. Cash players can make a steadier stream of money, but one big hit in a tourney can get you a weeks worth of cash game earnings. I prefer tourneys, because my bankroll is not big. In those instances I run into people with big cash buy ins and they can run me over easier since I have to be selective on where to push.

 

[Jblocher1]

As soon as I saw this thread I knew who OP was. Let me just say, you are the most tilting, and triggering troll I've ever seen on this forum in my years here. Every post you make is sheer nonsense and I would like to challenge you to HU cash games now because I'm an MTT player who would like to shut your mouth about cash games being the holy grail of poker and tournaments being trash.

Pm me and we can set it up. I'm sure there's a lot of people who would love to rail a GOD like yourself. Done reading this trash.

 

[colbear]

opposite

I must say I think the exact opposite is true

To be clear to be successful you should play both .

Cash games for a steady supply of income and tournaments to get the big wins .

Using sound bankroll management you can make more a lot faster in tourneys . A cash game has smaller wins more often and you can rebuy anytime you want if you get a cooler and lose your stack . But there are far less variables to consider in a cash game .It is a level game the whole way through short stack doesn't affect you as much as rebuy is possible staying alive one more hand does not have the same affect as deep run in tourney .there are a lot more things to consider in a tournament so they take more intelligence to be successful on a consistent basis . It's not one game that makes you successful it's the long term ROI so those who consistently make more in tournaments are bound to be better players than those in cash games as they play everything a cash player plays plus more

 

[sryulaw]

I believe that CG players are better at post-flop, they are used to having a very open range .. not that they are smarter than MMT. Not following what you said friend.

 

[veronica]

If there is something that I noticed is that I do not know if they call them more intelligent to cash players or actually know more strategies than those like in my case usually play little cash and more tournaments .. they in my case have the ability to take me away All my money jejejej
Will play with many tables and risk more at the time of matching bets because there are not pening that a hand can leave you after hours of survival.
They in the game do not survive just play.

 

[Jblocher1]

As soon as I saw this thread I knew who OP was. Let me just say, you are the most tilting, and triggering troll I've ever seen on this forum in my years here. Every post you make is sheer nonsense and I would like to challenge you to HU cash games now because I'm an MTT player who would like to shut your mouth about cash games being the holy grail of poker and tournaments being trash.

Pm me and we can set it up. I'm sure there's a lot of people who would love to rail a GOD like yourself. Done reading this trash.

Bump, mr irrational madman. I wanna play with the best

 

[Supmargy]

Bump, mr irrational madman. I wanna play with the best

He left the forum a couple of days ago. IIRC Keith_mm posted a graph of his 150$ cash game losses in the "im the best tourney player on earth. Oh wait im not" thread.