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you open with a standard raise from early position preflop

you get reraised by a player who has position on you . everybody folds and it is your turn now

you dont have much information about the player . but he is rather tight

what is your personal strategy here . do you rereraise or do you just call and put him on AA KK and try to hit your Queen ?

please answer also the same question but you have JJ instead of QQ
 
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I think calling is fine, well, it's better to re-raise to understand and get more information before the flop because maybe he did it with JJ when you have QQ or 1010 to understand you can re-raise after if he puts all-in then KK or AA and we fold easily and do not lose a lot of chips to the river, and if he calls, we already understand that there is AK JJ or 1010 and we play with JJ I think the situation is the same
 
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you open with a standard raise from early position preflop

you get reraised by a player who has position on you . everybody folds and it is your turn now

you dont have much information about the player . but he is rather tight

what is your personal strategy here . do you rereraise or do you just call and put him on AA KK and try to hit your Queen ?

please answer also the same question but you have JJ instead of QQ
If villain is tight and 3-bet IP we aren’t folding 99-QQ quickly, we are calling down. Also we are not 4-betting. We like to 4-bet here having suited aces and suited broadways, although villain is tight, and we can get some 5-bets/jams.
Our strategy follows as we are calling to check almost all the flops and wait for villain’s c-bet: if he c-bets small we continue in favorable boards, and if villain c-bets high we can easily fold, when we have poor equity.
And as StationMaster has told you, we are not putting villain into AA, KK, of course these hands can be present in its 3-bet range, but we put more hands, AJs, AQs, AKs, KQs, KJs, A2s-A5s, and of course AA and KK. But this is an easy example of a range of hands, a tight player whichever is also a regular, will have value and bluff hands in its range. A NIT player will have only value, most players at the micro stakes are 3-betting pure value, however we must put the opponent in a range of possible hands and play preflop and postflop accordingly.
 
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but when we call and the flop comes lets say 2 - 9 - 7 rainbow .....how are we getting off the hand now . if he/she has AA KK then we are in big trouble lel
 
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I think that all the information about the preflop can be found in the preflop charts. But postflop you can’t play according to the charts...

Against unknown opponents, you can't fold to 3-bet such strong hands, because then what to play against 3-bets))

And if there are stats, then you can fold against opponents whose 3-bet percents are 1% -2%

P. S. It is likely correct to balance some percentage of 4-bets with calls...
 
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I think that all the information about the preflop can be found in the preflop charts. But postflop you can’t play according to the charts...

Against unknown opponents, you can't fold to 3-bet such strong hands, because then what to play against 3-bets))

And if there are stats, then you can fold against opponents whose 3-bet percents are 1% -2%

lol obviously i dont fold . unless i know that he/she is a mega nit and most likely does have AA KK

the question is rather if it is better to re-reraise and maybe even shove all in OR just to call and look at the flop

QQ is the hardest hand to play in a cash game in my opinion

by the way in a real cash game i was deep and once had QQ and reraised a dude and he went all in (preflop) and i thought about it and then folded because it was obvious to me he has AA and he indeed had AA
 
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Calling would most likely be the right play but as you said you don't really know how to play on flop with an over pair. I wouldn't put him on AA and KK though, there is quite a range of hands he can have to 3-bet with, even if he's a tight player.
Personally I wouldn't say I have enough experience to comment how to play properly on flop like you mentioned. I'd most likely push the action onto him and just call his bets, but yea we're in trouble if he has AA or KK.
One of the options is to 4-bet him pre flop and if he 5-bets or goes all we can safely fold there and lose less money than we would on flop turn and river. If he just calls our 4-bet, I'd assume he doesn't have AA (and most likely also KK) and would play accordingly.
 
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It is likely correct to balance some percentage of 4-bets with calls...

The charts are highly dependent on rake, but on most charts many hands are always played differently, such as 75% calling and 25% 4bet. Or something like that...

You need to look for charts for a specific limit...
 
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lol obviously i dont fold . unless i know that he/she is a mega nit and most likely does have AA KK

the question is rather if it is better to re-reraise and maybe even shove all in OR just to call and look at the flop

QQ is the hardest hand to play in a cash game in my opinion

by the way in a real cash game i was deep and once had QQ and reraised a dude and he went all in (preflop) and i thought about it and then folded because it was obvious to me he has AA and he indeed had AA
Good questions and points you’ve made, mate. Now I’m going to play CardsChat Weekly Freeroll, and I intend to answer it later. See you there and good luck!
 
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A Rerais with QQ is not my play.
Call and with one Leg looking for Exit.
 
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In this specific situation, if I have QQ, I would call his raise, and I would wait to see the flop, if the flop comes, A or K, I bet 3 bb to see what he does, if he calls OK, then on the turn, if nothing else is right, I hope that he will bet, if he bets too high, it means that he can have K. then I give up.
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It depends on whether you play in a tournament or for money. Sometimes you can also play all-in in a tournament.
 
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but when we call and the flop comes lets say 2 - 9 - 7 rainbow .....how are we getting off the hand now . if he/she has AA KK then we are in big trouble lel
When the flop doesn’t come with any overcard we can continue paying if villain bets 1/5, 1/4 pot. If we do check to villain most of times. If you think your hand is behind, for your reads and opponent profile, fold it.
 
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lol obviously i dont fold . unless i know that he/she is a mega nit and most likely does have AA KK

the question is rather if it is better to re-reraise and maybe even shove all in OR just to call and look at the flop

QQ is the hardest hand to play in a cash game in my opinion

by the way in a real cash game i was deep and once had QQ and reraised a dude and he went all in (preflop) and i thought about it and then folded because it was obvious to me he has AA and he indeed had AA
If you called into a 3-bet pot is not a good idea to be raising flop, versus a tight player specially.
Yes, 99-QQ are hard to play postflop for many times we will see overcards. So we must look for spots where we have equity:

e.g:

Hero is in the MP holding QsQh and raises preflop. Tight Villain in BU 3-bets, Hero calls: flop/flops:

Ts9d7s = we can continue calling here, for we own backdoors. We can call larger bets here

AsKs2h = we are also calling down for the same reason, even 1/2 pot bet

2h3d9h = we call because villain can still has AK, AJ, etc. However, we expect small bets to see a turn

8dThKs = complicated flop, but we still have some equity: also waiting for small bet.

As2d3h = very hard to continue if villain bets 1/2 pot or more.

In all of these examples we are calling to see if the turn improves our hand. Many times we won’t catch a Queen, so we must have a plan, we are waiting for another spade to have more equity or a card that give us better odds to a straight or both.
Our ability to call here relies not so much in the showdown of our hand, but on the fold equity of our opponent: we are calling to try to float him on the turn or on the river.
If our opponent is a tight regular (tight doesn’t mean the player holistically comprehends the game), and our hand improves on the turn we can think about raising, not to get paid by best hands, the contrary, to make the regular fold its AA and KK, for it will read our raise OTT as a move full of strength.
We can also continue calling and miss our straights and flushes OTR, so we are check-raising or jamming the river, doing the most strong possible move that most of times mean that we own the nuts: but be careful: many players at the micros won’t fold AA or KK postflop no matter how the board looks, super connected and monotone, or our sizing, they are simply going through it! Watch out and be smart.
As a rule of thumb, having QQ postflop I would continue calling to the river, if:

a) villain is betting small, giving us odds to proceed with our hand til the river

b) if any scary cards don’t show up on the board til the river, such as Kx or Ax: what is the point of calling small bets when it comes overcards OTT or OTR, and we are losing to any AT, AJ, A2???
 
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you open with a standard raise from early position preflop

you get reraised by a player who has position on you . everybody folds and it is your turn now

you dont have much information about the player . but he is rather tight

what is your personal strategy here . do you rereraise or do you just call and put him on AA KK and try to hit your Queen ?

please answer also the same question but you have JJ instead of QQ
AA and KK are 6 combinations that beat you. Calling makes sense if you are deepstack (150+BB).
 
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você abre com um aumento padrão em posição inicial pré-flop

você recebe reraise de um jogador que tem posição sobre você. todo mundo desiste e agora é a sua vez

você não tem muitas informações sobre o jogador. mas ele é bastante apertado

qual é a sua estratégia pessoal aqui. você faz re-raise ou simplesmente paga e coloca ele em AA KK e tenta acertar sua Dama?

responda também a mesma pergunta, mas você tem JJ em vez de QQ
With both hands I just pay and take a look at the FLOP, I could explode pre-FLOP, not least because I'm at the top of the range, but the chance of the villain having KK and AA is very high! So I just pay...
 
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Not 4-betting KK is extremely tight, even when you opened from EP. QQ or JJ should generally be played as a call though, since its a disaster to get 5-bet, and they block the hands, you want to opponent to fold rather than those, he will continue with. If you want to have a balanced 4-betting range, then the bluff part of it is AK and some low frequency of a hand like A5s.
 
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Depending on your own stack and on the other person's information, OOP a call is better. A 4-bet that is answered with a jam is too expensive to be able to fold and is almost forced to risk the stack.
 
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Only call , and see the flop, then call the continue bed and finally call. I think call every moment +
 
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I think in this situation i would like call especially if you are OOP . Tight op 3bet ≠ AA , KK automatically.
 
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When it comes to QQ, I always go all in. If you encounter AA KK, you are unlucky. But in any other hand you have an advantage in the long run. And when it comes to JJ, I just call, and I'm looking for a good flop that will give me the opportunity to bluff my opponent that holds Ax Kx Qx
 
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you open with a standard raise from early position preflop

you get reraised by a player who has position on you . everybody folds and it is your turn now

you dont have much information about the player . but he is rather tight

what is your personal strategy here . do you rereraise or do you just call and put him on AA KK and try to hit your Queen ?

please answer also the same question but you have JJ instead of QQ

Playing from early position is not my favourite place to be in, but I think personally I would not have raised with any Pocket Pair, and just called, as there probably would be a player that would be raising behind me, with maybe 5 or 6 more players left to Act, and I would certainly have liked to see a flop with any PP.
The danger comes from the fact, He could be playing any combination of cards A/K or less, or even a bigger PP like A/A or K/K, and if the flop misses your pair, any over card has you beat, So you would have to be careful.
I would much rather raise from the button with any PP because the players behind you are then on the defensive and have to avoid you hitting the Flop, but you could represent practically any flop that comes, with a continuation bet, and if you do get lucky making "Trips" with QQ or JJ they might assume you are playing a bigger pair and just want to protect your investment in the hand by leading out.
Of course they will be willing to call if they have any sort of Draw to a Straight or Flush, so again you would need to be aware of the possibilities and be careful of them completing their hand.
Betting after the Flop and Turn cards have been dealt, might look like you are stealing the pot but if they are checking and calling your lead bets, there is the possibility that they will continue to check on the "River" giving you a chance to Bluff at it and then come back at you with a huge raise, or you could simply check the River card if you feel you are beaten.
Of course this then gives them a chance to try and bluff you out of the pot, and if you are holding the "Nuts" on the River there is no way you are folding to their bets.
This is why Poker is so much fun, because it is more than a simple game of cards, It is a Battle of "Wits" trying to outthink and outsmart you opponents.
 
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With QQ i intend to raise most times, if i do not know him at all i might just call.

With JJ i think call is fine, i do not like playing JJ raise en get re raised.
 
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The flop comes down with a Q, 9, and 2. You're smiling because you've got three Queens! But wait, don't get too excited. Stay cool and remember your strategy.
 
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