Would you look? A cash game dilemma...

[Pityesz1974]

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Would you look? A cash game dilemma...

The cash game is an other topic,like tornaments. The blinds never change. You can go there developed plan. Many times you have to fold,call,raise,reraise in other case,like tournament.In the same ways must be recognized the opponents,like tornaments,but here maybe even more important,because you play throughout with them. Here goes to all-in very dangerous,because runs out your real money.Because of this recommended who are brave. As many times as I played cash game every times I've lost my risked money,because of that I can't play compared to the tournaments. Bur in tournaments I've won many times.In tournaments you have to be rather for persistent,but in cash game rather for conscious.But of course the consciousness is important in the tournament as well,just different kind.

 

[mariussica88]

It may be considered a form of cheating, but I believe that if I let the other person know that I can see his cards and he decides to not do anything about it, I should not be me the one who has a disadvantage. If you can't keep your cards from me, especially in a cash game I would take advantage of that. And also if I can see his cards so the person next to him (on the other side of him). This is a thing that I learn the hard way first time I played live, I was a rookie and I did not know how to protect my hand from other players, and I had the "luck" that one of the players at my table told me that, and I thank him and I tried to protect my hand better...I guess you live and learn.

Also if he is rude to me when I try to do something nice for him, he had it coming.

 

[billibooo]

Honestly I did not read all of the question...but <3

100% no, I would not look. I would also probably tell the person what they are doing as well. <3 I hate all forms of cheating and I would deem that a cheat <3

 

[billibooo]

K so curiosity killed me and I read all of the question and I may or may not start saying his cards out loud if he was rude to me depending on what level of sassypants I had on that day

It is not cheating if everyone has the advantage

 

[RustyRed83]

It has happened many times in my live experience. If i do not know the person next to me, then i don't really say anything, it is not my problem they cannot protect their cards. If i do know the person, then i will mention it. Is it cheating? No, what are you supposed to do, close your eyes, look straight forward, or look the opposite way? Why should i change my behaviour because another cannot protect their cards properly.

 

[benitwapasu]

I would be trying to look at his cards! I would wear sunglasses and lean back in my seat and look straight sideways. But before you judge me too harshly I would like to say that I have always been very good to my dog and my mother.

 

[KUN_AGUERO_KROOS]

It's players' responsibility to protect their cards. Once I've told the person I was able to see his cards and that he should protect his card better, it's not my fault if I can see them after the fact.

What am I going to do? Cut my eyes?

Cheating would be not informing him.

 

[Poker Orifice]

I will definitely not look at his cards no matter what situation on the table I would rather warn him to protect his cards. Firstly is not ethical behaviour and it's kind of cheating because in this case you gaining an advantage over other players.

Poker is a game where you make decisions only based on your on cards and of course cards on the board but not knowing your opponent cards. That's why it's cheating and not fair play.

I agree.
I think this is the point that many are missing here in this thread. I believe they are only thinking about themselves vs. the card flasher... not the rest of the players on the table who are not benefitting from this information.

 

[Pityesz1974]

I wouldn't look. It depends on the personality. If you don't want to cheat,then don't look the hands next to you.Still you can look one of your opponent hand,you don't know the more opponents' hands.And you don't know what cards come on the flop.Although that's true,after the flop you have easier thing.Many times rather confuses you,if you know one of your opponent hands.

 

[Paya_31]

Hello, it's a situation that I think happens more often with people who are just starting to play poker for the most part, I think I would insist again to help him, talk to him to explain how to look at his cards. it is that if you manage to look at the opponent's cards you already have an advantage over him and much more because he is next to you, I think that one would tend to continue looking because we are people, but I hope that by insisting he will accept help. Greetings

 

[Navin Sarabjeet]

Definitely a form of cheating.
Happens quite often to me. So when i already warned them about it a few times when they keep on doing it i just look the other way. Or atleast avoid looking in their direction.

 

[Navin Sarabjeet]

Definitely a form of cheating.
Happens quite often to me. So when i already warned them about it a few times when they keep on doing it i just look the other way. Or atleast avoid looking in their direction

 

[Berandir]

In my point of view, trying to see your opponent's card, even if it's easy, would be a way to take advantage. I believe that the difference must be made in the game, making good moves and putting into practice the strategies acquired from your study.

 

[MARIANARDES2022]

Look. I think it's a game and I want to win it, so any help is welcome. Because it's not my betrayal, it's not my fault.

 

[absolutista2021]

First aclaration, english is not my language mother, but i want practise the english in much sites, how this, now the answer:
The game is a game with information incomplete i think, and no cheat is the honors in the game, so, for more, what player show the cards.. is not moral see the cards, for play exist, the mathematics in the poker and in live poker, the psychology of the body or words of other players in the table, the poker is a intelectual and moral game, not a game for win versus player what do very bad comportament, show the cards.. if it how say: win me, look my cards, is ilogic for the spirit of poker. sorry for my english low and long live for cardschat.com!

 

[MK_]

I certainly would.... I'm inherently nosy at the best of times so I know I'd look lol, if he doesn't care enough to protect his cards why would anyone else, well except the dealer who'd throw us both out for cheating if I played a hand with him. I think the best course of action is have him removed so players could play poker of course but if you tell someone and they give that response... yeah I'd look a time or two just out of curiosity, would I do anything nefarious with that information is the question lol

 

[absolutista2021]

The nature of poker based on incomplete information, which is corrected as far as possible with mathematics, and the analysis of gestures in live poker, seems to me the most representative of poker, if the opponent shows the cards, not It seems moral to me to see them, since that is no longer poker, it is a kind of complicity to let yourself lose, especially if you only show them to one, now if this player shows them to all, it is no longer complicity with an opponent in particular, but that does not represent the intellectual spirit of poker, that represents letting lose or not taking it seriously by the player who shows them, and deviating from the spirit of poker by those who decide to watch, technically, it may not be cheating, I don't know the rules in that case, but morally and logically, that is no longer poker, poker is related to incomplete information and to correct it as much as possible, with behavioral psychology and mathematics, not with seeing cards from others. Now use the google translator, sorry for my bad English in the previous answer, a big greeting from argentina and congratulations for the site, it is very nice.

 

[billibooo]

The nature of poker based on incomplete information, which is corrected as far as possible with mathematics, and the analysis of gestures in live poker, seems to me the most representative of poker, if the opponent shows the cards, not It seems moral to me to see them, since that is no longer poker, it is a kind of complicity to let yourself lose, especially if you only show them to one, now if this player shows them to all, it is no longer complicity with an opponent in particular, but that does not represent the intellectual spirit of poker, that represents letting lose or not taking it seriously by the player who shows them, and deviating from the spirit of poker by those who decide to watch, technically, it may not be cheating, I don't know the rules in that case, but morally and logically, that is no longer poker, poker is related to incomplete information and to correct it as much as possible, with behavioral psychology and mathematics, not with seeing cards from others. Now use the google translator, sorry for my bad English in the previous answer, a big greeting from Argentina and congratulations for the site, it is very nice.

Your English is wayyyy better that I could do in Spanish <3 No pressure, thanks for the effort AND I agree. Although personally to me, it would feel like cheating <3 and when it comes down to it, it is all about what feels right to us. Have the best day and Welcome to our beautiful community

 

[Luvepoker]

This is actually funny because this has happened to me and even when playing in the ESOP players not protecting their cards. While I could use this to my advantage, and I am sure many do but I actually tell the player. I have also seen the cards when the dealer deals them, and I tell the dealer I saw the card and will tell them the card if they need me to. Most people are shocked at my honesty to be honest.

As to why I do this. I try to treat them that way I would like to be treated. I am also a competitive person and winning is important to me. I could use this to an advantage, but it is wrong and not really winning with skill this way.

 

[Antonioadv]

there are two reasons for people to show their cards, the first is to try to intimidate the opponent, and the second is to prepare a bluff, so I think it's better not to look and study his playing style, when he increases and when he flees the game.

 

[absolutista2021]

Your English is wayyyy better that I could do in Spanish <3 No pressure, thanks for the effort AND I agree. Although personally to me, it would feel like cheating <3 and when it comes down to it, it is all about what feels right to us. Have the best day and Welcome to our beautiful community

oh! thank you very much for your words! i can understand without translate the 80% of your words! oh yeah! hahaha! with more time here, i can do more strong the english, and if you want you can do more strong your spanish! has got a good day you too! and welcome from Argentine! hehe
pd: this message of my, ( the message of answer to dilemma, was with translate because the firs message without translate, no tobe understand for the site, or this say me in a private message, but my answer to you, ( this answer) is without translate!)

 

[Tanamita]

Very interesting question! Of course, many will choose to look at other people's cards and win money. But I will stop looking, and I will hint to a person to hide their cards. I don't like unfair play, in such a situation I would move from this table, because someone else can take advantage of this, unlike me

 

[hobojim1247]

Part of being successful in poker (just like life in general) is to think about various situations ahead of time and decide how you would react. When the time comes, whether you change your mind or not, you at least had a plan of action in mind beforehand.

So what would you do in this situation?

The young, aggressive cash player next to you isn't doing a great job of protecting his hand. The way he looks at his cards makes it really easy for you to see what he has. You quietly let him know to be careful, but he just laughs and tells you to worry about your own game. Would you keep looking at his cards when you get a chance? And do you think this is a form of cheating if you do look? Why or why not?

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I have not read any other responses, so these are my sentiments.
Every poker book I have read says to be alert and collect information. There are two points to this question. 1.) I would not do anything to spy on his hand , as in craining my neck to get an observational position, I think that is wrong. 2.) On the other hand if he is carelessly flashing his cards and I see them from my normal position, I will use that info to my advantage, ESPECIALLY AFTER, telling him what he is doing and being told by him to MYOB. From that point, it is game on, I will use all the info he carelessly gives me all the while being keenly aware that his actions could be part of a long term plan to set me up for later play.

 

[johnwat2]

Part of being successful in poker (just like life in general) is to think about various situations ahead of time and decide how you would react. When the time comes, whether you change your mind or not, you at least had a plan of action in mind beforehand.

So what would you do in this situation?

The young, aggressive cash player next to you isn't doing a great job of protecting his hand. The way he looks at his cards makes it really easy for you to see what he has. You quietly let him know to be careful, but he just laughs and tells you to worry about your own game. Would you keep looking at his cards when you get a chance? And do you think this is a form of cheating if you do look? Why or why not?

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I would tell them to not reveal their cards, and would warn them again if needed. I would be annoyed and avert looking
if they continued.

 

[olejean]

Along with what my opponent says or how he looks at his (her) cards I definitely try to see his (her) cards. And I don't think this is a form of cheating if both of us are in equal conditions. You have to be attentive and control your every step during the game. More information you have about your opponent, then it will be easier defeat him successfully. Part of the poker game is bluffing.