Vitorbismark
Enthusiast
Silver Level
In extreme situations, yes !!!
Everything in poker is relative, we cannot always perform the same actions 100% of the time, so I propose a situation:
pre-flop you are on the button and two players before you are all-in and the SB and BB are still in action.
In this situation, I can assume two situations:
If I am playing at multiple tables or in a freeroll, I will of course pay.
If I'm playing an expensive tournament and the time for each level is high, I give up calmly.
Everything in poker is relative, we cannot always perform the same actions 100% of the time, so I propose a situation:
pre-flop you are on the button and two players before you are all-in and the SB and BB are still in action.
In this situation, I can assume two situations:
If I am playing at multiple tables or in a freeroll, I will of course pay.
If I'm playing an expensive tournament and the time for each level is high, I give up calmly.
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Zirkzee
Rock Star
Silver Level
The only reason to fold kings preflop is the independent chip model. For example, if you are playing a tournament and you are already in the prize money. There are still 6 players in the tournament and you are fourth with your chip stack. You get KK and the chip leader goes all in. In addition, the third and fifth place goes all in too. Should you also call with your pocket kings? I would maybe fold, because against 3 opponents you have at most a win rate of 50% rather 40%. You are putting your tournament life on the line and there are two players who have fewer chips than you. Perhaps you should rather wait until fifth and sixth place are eliminated from the tournament because you will then get more prize money. If you call you risk your tournament life with a win rate of maybe 40% and you are eliminated with sixth place. But in cash games I would never fold pocket kings preflop. Even if I 3-bet my opponent and then he goes all in. Yes, maybe he has AA but maybe he just has QQ or JJ or AK. Against these hands you are the clear favorite with kings.
Adi8877
Visionary
Silver Level
I just would had to half an hour ago.... in an sng, already in money, i am on the 3rd position 7 players left... almost everybody under 20BB... i couldn't.... not even on the flop.... played 3 hours today, beaten KK vs J10o, JJ vs 33, A9s vs A8o, Q10 vs Q9 (except KK all was preflop allin, goddamn annoying when it goes in series for days....), don't talk about the flips and the magic rivers after flop nuts..., so I am out pretty fast....
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tomatientje
Enthusiast
Silver Level
2 weeks ago, I replied the above.
Yesterday 888 $300 freeroll, KK on the bubble! Before me, all folds (the bubble!) so I went all in. 2 Seats behind me a high stack called, just like I had anticipated and hoped (s)he would do. A7 off suit.
First card on the flop, an Ace
, no K in the flop, turn or river.I lost on the bubble, was this a good decision?
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StreetPhd
Rock Star
Silver Level
In a rebuy tournament I'm never folding.
In a cash game I'm never folding.
In a big buy-in tournament i could get away from KK.
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pedro1590
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Depends
Personally it depends,
The bigger my stack in terms of BBs the more chance I would get away.
Short stacked I would seldom fold unless it was near the bubble and there were already a lot of callers.
In terms of bubble if you are content with min cash then it is worth the fold.. but if you want a late run you should be shoving to any raise.
Personally it depends,
The bigger my stack in terms of BBs the more chance I would get away.
Short stacked I would seldom fold unless it was near the bubble and there were already a lot of callers.
In terms of bubble if you are content with min cash then it is worth the fold.. but if you want a late run you should be shoving to any raise.