Tyler's Difficult Spot and Study Thread

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What do we do here? All players are unknown.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com
MP1 ($2.06)
MP2 ($0.92)
Hero (CO) ($2)
Button ($2.60)
SB ($2)
BB ($2.80)
UTG ($5)
UTG+1 ($1.06)
Preflop: Hero is CO with J
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, J
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2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 bets $0.06, Hero raises $0.24, 1 fold, Button calls $0.23, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.22, MP1 raises $0.82, MP2 calls $0.78 Hero???
This is a shove or call for me
 
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TT hand, what are 3 bet stats for BTN? I'd probably 4 bet and fold out his MPP, Axs, low BW's. Too many flops are going to be a c/f situation if you just call.
 
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BTN wasn't 3betting dude. He was isoing the fish
 
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Fold to 3bet stat is what I was after, you you 3bet, not 4 bet. Too much drunken live home games this weekend.
 
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Merge - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $4.17
BTN: $3.24
SB: $5.62
Hero (BB): $4.00
UTG: $3.80

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has K:spade: A:diamond:

fold, CO raises to $0.08, BTN calls $0.08, SB calls $0.06, Hero raises to $0.52, CO calls $0.44, fold, SB calls $0.44

Flop: ($1.64, 3 players) J:club: A:club: J:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets $1.09, CO calls $1.09, fold

Turn: ($3.82, 2 players) 4:spade:
Hero bets $2.39 and is all-in, CO calls $2.39

River: ($8.60, 2 players) 6:heart:



3 hands. villain 100/3 but cant tell anything really from those stats. line check? in a pretty brutal downswing so my confidence is a little shot atm
 
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i also wanted to say that this thread does say study in it...i have a month DTB membership so every night i watch a vid or 2 so havent been reading study material that i can share and some of us can discuss. the last page just looks like a HA section but i promise mods it wont be like that soon
 
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Good thread Tyler....

Don't forget this thread

\l/ \l/ \l/
 
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I think you played it fine. If villain continued to play most hands, he will stack off with Ax or flush draw. I'm guessing he had Jx though. Keep grinding, you'll get there. Or just wait until I sit at your table again and you can take my money.
 
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I bet more in 3b pot, especially multiway, something like 3/4 or full pot....not like it matters in this hand, but just for future reference :)


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Good thread Tyler....

Don't forget this thread

\l/ \l/ \l/

I've read most of those threads awhile back but I'll read them again and take notes and stuff. thanks again for that list man

I think you played it fine. If villain continued to play most hands, he will stack off with Ax or flush draw. I'm guessing he had Jx though. Keep grinding, you'll get there. Or just wait until I sit at your table again and you can take my money.

haha I'll be on today ;) jk. ya it's just tough to judge his stats tho after 3hands and u obv can't do it but if he did stay fishy stats then ya it's fine

no problems in that hand, imo. you lost? tough luck, try again next time.

ya just gotta work on confidence

I bet more in 3b pot, especially multiway, something like 3/4 or full pot....not like it matters in this hand, but just for future reference :)


solve run bad= post women in the spoiler thread ldo

get ready for 3 pages of beautiful women :cool:
 
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my 4nl graph. i need a break

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Shoot another sweat vid. I'll do my best to make you more moniez.
 
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In for the reminder...
 
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ok here's my stats for a little breakdown please on 20k hands

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Mine just for a little comparison. 32K at 4nl, 19K at 10nl.
 
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Your Fold to 3B is pretty high.
 
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Merge - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $5.67
Hero (SB): $4.00
BB: $4.14
UTG: $2.80
MP: $1.92
CO: $4.46

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has 9:club: 9:heart:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.26 Hero?

villain is 100/57 8 hands. 3bet/get it in vs this villain?


Merge - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $12.49
Hero (SB): $9.04
BB: $4.32
UTG: $4.00
MP: $2.40
CO: $5.92

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has 9:club: T:club:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.12, Hero raises to $0.36, fold, BTN calls $0.24

Flop: ($0.76, 2 players) T:spade: A:heart: A:diamond:
Hero bets $0.46, BTN calls $0.46

Turn: ($1.68, 2 players) A:spade:
Hero bets $0.72, BTN calls $0.72

River: ($3.12, 2 players) 3:diamond:
Hero?


villain is 42/27 so probs fold pre but he stls 43% and ft3b 60% so i think its fine

villain is 3betting 11% and is decently aggro so i think we can assume he is 4betting JJ+

betting flop and turn for value since low PP's will call since people cant fold FH's and possible K high type hands. bet/fold river again for value?
 
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First hand, I think I'd get it in.

2nd hand, I don't like 3 betting. His fold to 3 bet is really low, so he's probably going to call, then you're in a big pot OOP with a speculative hand.
 
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First hand, I think I'd get it in.

2nd hand, I don't like 3 betting. His fold to 3 bet is really low, so he's probably going to call, then you're in a big pot OOP with a speculative hand.
QFT. but once you are on the river, bet/fold seems good.
 
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First hand, his image can easily be somewhat skewed by the small sample, but it's highly unlikely that even after 100 hands he wouldn't still be a spewtard. I would say you're winning preflop without a doubt. Against two overs, you're about a 55% favorite, and against any Ace-rag, you're a ~65% favorite. I can't really see this guy folding anything, so it comes down to how risky you want to be. I say 3Bet shoving is obviously your best bet to get it in good, but it's quite possibly a coinflip against two overs. Someone a little more conservative might want to just call and see the flop and against a low board, just take it down.
 
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MERGE_GAME #3723054100131: Texas Hold'em NL $0.05/$0.10 07/08/2011 11:36:12
Table Lima (37230541)
Seat 1: HighBall326326 ($6.23 in chips)
Seat 2: MrKing13 ($7.00 in chips)
Seat 3: RollnNicklz ($11.09 in chips)
Seat 4: Danc3r71 ($11.54 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: KittyLiquor ($10.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Eipi100 ($12.76 in chips)
KittyLiquor: Post SB $0.05
Eipi100: Post BB $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RollnNicklz [Ts 9s]
HighBall326326: Fold
RollnNicklz: Raise $0.30
Danc3r71: Fold
KittyLiquor: Raise $1.10
Eipi100: Fold
RollnNicklz: Call $0.80
*** FLOP *** [5c 8c Jc]
KittyLiquor: Bet $1.00
RollnNicklz: Call $1.00
*** TURN *** [8h]
KittyLiquor: Check
RollnNicklz: Bet $2.86
KittyLiquor: Call $2.86
*** RIVER *** [5s]
KittyLiquor: Check
RollnNicklz: Allin $6.13
KittyLiquor: Allin $5.09
*** SUMMARY ***
RollnNicklz: Shows [Ts 9s]
KittyLiquor: Shows [Tc Td]
RollnNicklz: wins $1.04
KittyLiquor: wins $19.19

I know I'm a donk for flatting the 3b/calling flop, but it was obvious his check on turn was coming. Hand was grossly misplayed, it was like 2 am and I was tired, so back the eff off. villian was (56 hands) 24/18 3b%= 10, cbet flop= 100%, turn cbet= 0%

I think his fold button was broke?

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