godblessiraq
Legend
Silver Level
I tip $1 for about every $30 profit I make in a hand. (Up to $100, then it changes.). Here is my tipping chart.
Profit: $2 - $29 = $1 tip
$30-$59=$2 tip
$60-$99=$3 tip
$100-$199=$5 tip
$200-299=$10 tip
$300-399=$15 tip
-I add a $5 tip for every $100 profit.
Many people have told me that I tip too much, but I’m ok with it. There is not a dealer at the rooms I play at who doesn’t greet me by my first name when I or they sit at the table. There is not a request I have made (within reason of course) that has been denied at the rooms I play at.
In the USA, dealers work off of tips and are payed a very small hourly wage. If they were payed the minimum wage, the casinos rake would be absurd. It’s no different than a restaurant in the USA, if servers and bartenders were paid a living wage, your $10 cheeseburger and fries would cost you $17.
I feel that a $1 tip per hand won is fair, if you can’t tip $1 per hand won, in the USA, you’re just a lowlife cheapskate.
Profit: $2 - $29 = $1 tip
$30-$59=$2 tip
$60-$99=$3 tip
$100-$199=$5 tip
$200-299=$10 tip
$300-399=$15 tip
-I add a $5 tip for every $100 profit.
Many people have told me that I tip too much, but I’m ok with it. There is not a dealer at the rooms I play at who doesn’t greet me by my first name when I or they sit at the table. There is not a request I have made (within reason of course) that has been denied at the rooms I play at.
In the USA, dealers work off of tips and are payed a very small hourly wage. If they were payed the minimum wage, the casinos rake would be absurd. It’s no different than a restaurant in the USA, if servers and bartenders were paid a living wage, your $10 cheeseburger and fries would cost you $17.
I feel that a $1 tip per hand won is fair, if you can’t tip $1 per hand won, in the USA, you’re just a lowlife cheapskate.
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Aaron Soto
Rock Star
Silver Level
I don't see how you can be profitable playing poker by tipping that much in live action. And just because you don't tip a buck or two w/e doesn't mean your a low life. It is simple mathematics for me. I know for certain that i would be tipping away my "Profits" if i consistently tipped the dealer the amount you tipped. It would be foolish of me. Again talking about 1/3 NL my stakes
godblessiraq
Legend
Silver Level
Let’s do some math here...
On average, you earn $1500 a month playing poker.
If you tipped $5 on every $100 + pot, you’d be tipping $500 a month.
That’s a hundred pots a month at $100+ per pot.
100 pots per month at $100 per pot equals $10,000 won per month.
Monthly earnings equals $1500 a month average
That’s $8500 lost in pots monthly.
That’s $2125 lost weekly, in pots.
Playing 25 hours a week, that’s $85 lost per hour.
Sooooo, $1500 earnings per month equals $375 earned per week.
$375 divided by 25 hours played per week equals an earning of $15 per hour.
Something is not adding up here.
At this point, I’m not at all worried about the measly $15 per hour you’re earning...I’m concerned about the $85 per hour you’re losing.
Maybe I should come sit at your table and play with you to further anylize the situation.
Soto, your math is way off....
Maybe not, maybe you’re just full of bologna...
Or maybe you’re just bad at math...
Or maybe, just maybe...
You’re just not good at poker...
Wake up dude...
godblessiraq
Legend
Silver Level
The math is simple...I tip at most, 5% of my profit per pot...that leaves me 95% profit per pot...simple...
Aaron Soto
Rock Star
Silver Level
Your not seeing the big picture here...5% of every pot adds up at the end of the month. Especially when you play 40 hours a week. That 5% is what decides if you make a profit for the month. I play for a living on the side bud. I doubt you'll school me on what it takes or tge profit margins in poker.
If you play 1/3 nl, for 8 hours in a day, on average your paying about 70-80 in rake. If you add in tips, lets say 30-40$ after an 8 hour session that's about 110-120$ to play poker live. I crush the 1/3 game even with these impossible odds. Can you imagine my earnings if there was "0" rake. Read the statement better.
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Poker_Mike
Legend
Loyaler
I an not a big tipper but I am a consistent tipper, which is more important.
Generally $1 per hand slapped on my winning cards as I push them to the dealer.
I have tipped more on big pots that I didn't know I was behind on and I was so grateful that I threw the dealer a few chips out of the pot - maybe 10 or 15 bucks.
I have a buddy who doesn't tip at all every pot. Instead he gives the dealer $7 when they are leaving the table - whether he won a pot or not.
Good luck !
Generally $1 per hand slapped on my winning cards as I push them to the dealer.
I have tipped more on big pots that I didn't know I was behind on and I was so grateful that I threw the dealer a few chips out of the pot - maybe 10 or 15 bucks.
I have a buddy who doesn't tip at all every pot. Instead he gives the dealer $7 when they are leaving the table - whether he won a pot or not.
Good luck !
lsbenn
Rock Star
Silver Level
I am glad I read your post before I posted the same thing.
I always TIP my dealer.
I always TIP my dealer.
godblessiraq
Legend
Silver Level
Ok, I see the problem here. I’m arguing with someone who thinks making $10 - $12 an hour profit is, in your words, “crushing “1/3. More power to ya dude! Crush it up!
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deadmoney_
Rising Star
Bronze Level
If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to play. Same as eating out/ordering delivery/etc.
Based on the math you're using to determine what you pay in rake, you're winning 1-2 pots per hour. If you win 1-2 pots per hour and tip $1 per pot, then you would pay $8-$16 per day in tips.
If $8-$16 per day is the difference between you being a profitable or unprofitable player, then you can't afford to play (and honestly, you aren't a profitable player). But my guess is your math is way off.
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CallmeFloppy
Legend
Bronze Level
I generally tip a dollar on any hand that sees a flop or if there is decent action preflop. If the pot is bigger, I will add more to the tip.
I play recreationally though and may adjust that if it were my livelihood.
I play recreationally though and may adjust that if it were my livelihood.
smknginmaine
Visionary
Silver Level
At my local casino the smallest games is 1/3. Everyone - just about everyone anyway- tips $1 per hand. The only exception being if the hand folds to the SB then more often than 9 in 10 times the SB and BB will "chop" and just pull their blinds back. I always agree to this, even if I have AA in the BB. if it folds the SB and they want to chop, I'm agreeing without even looking at what I had in the BB.
Many will tip over $1 for a bigger pot but the standard is $1 per pot. If someone "forgot" to tip no one will say anything. If someone continues to "forget" it's gonna get picked up on real quick and though the dealer won't say anything, they won't have to as everyone else at the table is going to speak up for them- myself included.
If you think you can't afford this- you really can't afford to be playing live. So in addition to being too broke to really play- you now also have no friends. Nice one.
I like all the dealers at my local casino - most days anyway
- so take a tip from me. Tip the dealer ya cheapskates! Or play elsewhere please :smokin:
Many will tip over $1 for a bigger pot but the standard is $1 per pot. If someone "forgot" to tip no one will say anything. If someone continues to "forget" it's gonna get picked up on real quick and though the dealer won't say anything, they won't have to as everyone else at the table is going to speak up for them- myself included.
If you think you can't afford this- you really can't afford to be playing live. So in addition to being too broke to really play- you now also have no friends. Nice one.
I like all the dealers at my local casino - most days anyway
- so take a tip from me. Tip the dealer ya cheapskates! Or play elsewhere please :smokin:
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muky2
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I tip when I play, but don't feel like I have to every hand. I usually give $1/hand when I win if it is over $10 and I would be shocked to hear from dealers that they expect you to tip on every hand, especially when you just take the blinds or one small bet/call for $5-10. I have sat at many tables for long periods and it seems the usual tip per hand, if you tip is $1/hand, a big hand (over $100), $2-5.
I would like to know what las vegas dealers make in the big casinos? Does anyone know for sure? I think they make much better than minimum wage for the level of competence they need to have dealing with the casinos money and the players money. They are most times very bright people and take a lot of crap from a lot of people. I would be surprised if they don't make at least $25/hour plus tips.
$25/ hour for an eight hour shift is $200, and say they deal 25 hands/hour average for 6.5 hours during their shift, 165 hands and get tipped $1 hand. This is a total gross pay of $365 day, times 22 days per month for a total monthly pay of $8030, not too bad I'd say.
I am happy to tip the way I do and don't feel like I need to increase this amount. Maybe when I am consistently making more than the dealer makes I will feel differently.
If the dealers want to make more, they have a nice income that will allow them to join us in the players seats and earn it that way, if not, a $96,000 gross annual income isn't bad.
I hope everyone tips what they are comfortable with and if you feel like tipping more, go ahead, just don't berate others if they don't. Each has there own life situation and set of considerations that go into the decision.
Good luck at the tables to all!!!
I would like to know what las vegas dealers make in the big casinos? Does anyone know for sure? I think they make much better than minimum wage for the level of competence they need to have dealing with the casinos money and the players money. They are most times very bright people and take a lot of crap from a lot of people. I would be surprised if they don't make at least $25/hour plus tips.
$25/ hour for an eight hour shift is $200, and say they deal 25 hands/hour average for 6.5 hours during their shift, 165 hands and get tipped $1 hand. This is a total gross pay of $365 day, times 22 days per month for a total monthly pay of $8030, not too bad I'd say.
I am happy to tip the way I do and don't feel like I need to increase this amount. Maybe when I am consistently making more than the dealer makes I will feel differently.
If the dealers want to make more, they have a nice income that will allow them to join us in the players seats and earn it that way, if not, a $96,000 gross annual income isn't bad.
I hope everyone tips what they are comfortable with and if you feel like tipping more, go ahead, just don't berate others if they don't. Each has there own life situation and set of considerations that go into the decision.
Good luck at the tables to all!!!
MemphisGrind
Think Bink
Bronze Level
I’d like to know where you heard $25 an hour plus tips? To my knowledge it’s a little under min. Wage plus tips. Would love to hear from someone more knowledgeable to get a more accurate figure
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horseshoebhole
Rock Star
Silver Level
Soto,
That's a bummer to never tip at all man. I get it... youre grinding 1/2. Ive done it before - I was a prop player. Never tipping seems a little rough. I understand your bottom line and profit margins but theyre trying to make a living too.
I dont think it makes you a villain by any means but how would you feel if you were the dealer - especially if youre a regular?
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muky2
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Your right that I do not know with any certainty what the dealers make and I stated the same in my post. I, also, would like to hear from a pit boss or a couple of seasoned dealers from a bigger established casino for more certainty.
I do know that they make enough dealing poker that many of the dealer at the tables I have sat at, have dealt for many many years. It doesn't make sense that they would make a career of dealing if they weren't making fairly decent money, but my thoughts are just conjecture, not based on any real concrete information.
MemphisGrind
Think Bink
Bronze Level
I hear ya, just wanted to point out that $25 an hour plus tips isn’t happening