***PLO Cash Game Thread***

[bubbasbestbabe]

This type of hand kills me. And what could these players have?

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9

, J

, Q

, 10

Hero bets $0.04, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.04, 1 fold, CO calls $0.04, Button calls $0.04, SB calls $0.03, BB calls $0.02
Flop: ($0.24) 6

, 8

, K

(6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, MP1 calls $0.20, 1 fold, Button calls $0.20, 2 folds
Turn: ($0.84) 7

(3 players)
Hero ?

 

[slycbnew]

sets, fd, 2pr, Kxxx - but we should be in fantastic shape w the nuts plus straight and flush redraws, our equity is excellent against any hand except one that looks like ours w the nut flush redraw. nh!

 

[c9h13no3]

That turn card is what we call "gin".

 

[cAPSLOCK]

Holy crap. POTPOTPOTPOTPOTPOTPOTPOTPOTPOTPOTPOTPOTPOTPOT.

Call a moderator and see if you can make it 02NLO for the rest of the hand.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

Next card: 5

(or 7 or 9)

I am just gonna go out on a limb here and assume we are getting the worlds slowest bad beat story.

Just because some villain shows up with 9d7d doesn't mean we shouldn't shove every cent in we can in this situation.

Tell me I am wrong.

 

[slycbnew]

lulz - you're going for the sf, i vote for rivered quads...

 

[Tygran]

Man... I can't believe how long I idiotically stuck with pokerstars

FTP + rakeback is so much better it's not even funny (rake generation in plo is crazy).

And a free deucescracked membership to boot is nice icing on the cake.


that plus I think the games are softer at FTP

 

[doops]

I actually disagree with this with this hand and position. It's a good drawing hand. I want a pot with some substance in it for the flop. But I don't want to chase my money ponies away. Also, if the flop misses I want to be able to get away from it with minimum damage.

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9

, J

, Q

, 10

Hero bets $0.04, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.04, 1 fold, CO calls $0.04, Button calls $0.04, SB calls $0.03, BB calls $0.02
Flop: ($0.24) 6

, 8

, K

(6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero ?

Now what?

I'd bet half the pot. Have nothing yet -- but a ton of outs to a str8, plus a lot of chances at a non-nut flush. I'd be wary of a flush card, though, and always wary of a paired board. So the choice is to bet hard hoping to discourage other chasers (ha!) or bet light hoping to catch the str8 without a scare card coming (good luck with that -- there always seems to be a scare card). Half the pot will discourage most of the others, except the player with a set (or an openend str8 draw or a nut flush draw.) Note: I would bet a half pot with whatever made hand I had also. Set, 2 pair, whatever. If someone raises, then it's time to reconsider, depending on bet size.

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

I milked this guy all the way to the end.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP2 ($1.69)
CO ($3.03)
Button ($2.88)
SB ($6.36)
BB ($4.48)
Hero (UTG) ($2.07)
UTG+1 ($3.80)
MP1 ($4.03)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9

, J

, Q

, 10

Hero bets $0.04, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.04, 1 fold, CO calls $0.04, Button calls $0.04, SB calls $0.03, BB calls $0.02
Flop: ($0.24) 6

, 8

, K

(6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, MP1 calls $0.20, 1 fold, Button calls $0.20, 2 folds
Turn: ($0.84) 7

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.84, MP1 calls $0.84, Button calls $0.84
River: ($3.36) 5

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.99 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls $0.99
Total pot: $5.34 | Rake: $0.25
Results:
Button had A

, 6

, K

, 4

(straight, eight high).
Hero had 9

, J

, Q

, 10

(straight, ten high).
Outcome: Hero won $5.09

 

[slycbnew]

vnh bbb!

I don't play FR, I know you don't like the idea but just curious - if you'd raised pot pf, would you have gotten called by everyone pf?

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

No. I have found that when you raise pot pf a lot of times you wind up with just the blinds. I like to raise enough to get a nice pot on the flop then pot it from then on. If it gets folded to me I have a nice bit of change. If it doesn't then we play for stacks, (if I have the hand or major redraws).

 

[Tygran]

I gets to brag about this one...

it's one thing to get a royal, it's a total other thing to actual get paid off with it


rush PLO is fun!

(oh...most of the money went in AFTER the turn, and he paid off on the river with AA high btw)

 

[cAPSLOCK]

No. I have found that when you raise pot pf a lot of times you wind up with just the blinds. I like to raise enough to get a nice pot on the flop then pot it from then on. If it gets folded to me I have a nice bit of change. If it doesn't then we play for stacks, (if I have the hand or major redraws).

Twas a nice hand BBB! I was enraptured till the end!

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

What is the correct play here?

 

[LuckyChippy]

Can you fold and show? If you can I think thats very +EV longterm.

If you can't show then i'd just go ahead and call.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

I think you offer previous folders a way to get back in for a certain amount of money.

 

[slycbnew]

I think you offer previous folders a way to get back in for all the money in their bankrolls.

fyp

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

Sometimes you have to wonder about these players.

You wonder what they think about. But I hope they don't think too hard. The only problem I might have had was repopping all in.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha Hi/Lo, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG+1 ($1.40)
MP1 ($1.39)
MP2 ($5.56)
CO ($3.03)
Button ($3.64)
SB ($2.53)
BB ($5.96)
Hero (UTG) ($4)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q

, J

, A

, 2

Hero bets $0.07, 3 folds, CO calls $0.07, Button calls $0.07, 1 fold, BB calls $0.05
Flop: ($0.29) 8

, 7

, 5

(4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.29, 1 fold, Button raises to $1.16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.77, Button calls $2.41 (All-In)
Turn: ($7.43) K

(2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($7.43) 10

(2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $7.43 | Rake: $0.35
Results:
Button had 9

, 6

, K

, 2

(Hi: straight, ten high, Lo: [ 8, 7, 6, 5, 2 ]).
Hero had Q

, J

, A

, 2

(Hi: flush, Ace high, Lo: [ 8, 7, 5, 2, A ]).
Outcome: Hero won $7.08

 

[slycbnew]

ummm, maybe he's thinking he's a 60/40 favorite over someone w the bare nut fd?

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

Had the nut low and the nut flush draw there.

 

[slycbnew]

Oops, O8, my bad...

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

Call or fold?

Table is a little loose. What would you do? What do you think villian has?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha Hi/Lo, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($6.98)
MP ($2.35)
Button ($5.07)
Hero (SB) ($3.77)
BB ($2.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, A

, 9

, 6

UTG calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.10, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.08, 1 fold, Button calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.34) K

, 3

, J

(3 players)

Hero bets $0.20, UTG calls $0.20, Button calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.94) 2

(3 players)

Hero bets $0.94, UTG calls $0.94, Button raises to $4.70, Hero?

 

[Tygran]

Loose table? not sure how you can fold that....

AA might be good for the high by itself... A6 has a shot at the low on that board... get the right heart and you scoop... (you have two aces... odds aren't super great he has an ace and a four or five).


but then plo8 drives me batty so yeah....

 

[cAPSLOCK]

I am not sure your equity is all that good here. You are drawing to a terrible low and your high is just top pair with a flush draw.

You've built a big pot with nowhere to go really.

Bet smaller preflop or even just call.
Check call flop.
Check call turn.

As played fold I think.

When building a pot in PLO8 I like to think that my $$$ momentum needs to match my hand strength opportunities. No need to go too fast.

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

On this one I totally lucked out. Even with having a loose table you can get burned bad. I shouldn't have called. And with naked As like that I have pulled back playing them that hard. The flush draw was the temptress.

Hero calls $2.53 (All-In), 1 fold
River: ($8.82) A

(2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $8.82 | Rake: $0.40
Results:
Button had Q

, Q

, K

, K

(Hi: three of a kind, Kings).
Hero had A

, A

, 9

, 6

(Hi: three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $8.42