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nevermind tylers there already, shouldn't hands like this get posted in the HA section and this be used for actual strategy? not just random hands we missed value on?
 
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Pretty much check because draw bricked so will not get pay for that, i am beat by AK which usually call raises and keep calling even turn.

So i should bet river too?, how much?.
 
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short 2 table session of 6max 2 LIMIT.
Guy to my left was trash-talking, so I talked back, after that he played every hand against me, and lost most hands. I started out 80/20, then tightened up, to 57/26 over 77 hands, took $2 to table in total, ended up with $3.16, 75.32bb/100.
stoked about session, lots of traffic for limit, gonna persevere with limit at this site(one with $75 freeroll winnings and rb), thinking I can move up levels at limit. whats my BR requirements for limit.......................
 
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Pretty much check because draw bricked so will not get pay for that, i am beat by AK which usually call raises and keep calling even turn.

So i should bet river too?, how much?.

so many Ax hands are calling here bud, imo. bet that river
 
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Sorry if this was for HA, one street question don´t look to me worth it.

guy have AK btw so i do save some money, but just want to know what usually should bet there that will be call even beat.
 
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nevermind tylers there already, shouldn't hands like this get posted in the HA section and this be used for actual strategy? not just random hands we missed value on?
Don´t supossed this topic be for post how we are doing, poker relate stuff and strategy?

I mean if this is only for strategy what we can say been newbies?.

Im confuse now, if this is going to happen every time i post, i prefeer not post at all.
 
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so I won $58 in a freeroll at a site where I havent deposited yet. do i deposit and then try to take all the money out, or do I grind cash and see if I can get the money out/run it up?. The software sucks, but I get rb there.

Most sites Ive played on require a deposit in order to withdraw by the same means. I use Moneybookers and it works really well to transfer money b/w sites. Is there a depo bonus at this site that you could get while you are running up the BR there? May as well work on one while you're doing that.


*For moneybooker you have to have the same email as the one linked to your poker account for the site you're playing on.
 
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Don´t supossed this topic be for post how we are doing, poker relate stuff and strategy?

I mean if this is only for strategy what we can say been newbies?.

Im confuse now, if this is going to happen every time i post, i prefeer not post at all.

continue to post bud.
 
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Most sites Ive played on require a deposit in order to withdraw by the same means. I use Moneybookers and it works really well to transfer money b/w sites. Is there a depo bonus at this site that you could get while you are running up the BR there? May as well work on one while you're doing that.


*For moneybooker you have to have the same email as the one linked to your poker account for the site you're playing on.

I have Nteller, and the poker site is offering me 150% match for any deposit.
As for moneybookers, thats the only way of getting my money out of UB(quoted from a rep there) so i need to get an account. is it a hard process to set it up brank? and Im guessing you're european?
 
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Yeah im not saying its bad i just hope everyone keeps posting in the HA section so it doesnt die out, but yeah ure right its a 1 street question and its fine here!

Back to the hand; checking there because the draw bricked is bad, what else could happen that would be better than a brick coming? Essentially it seems you would never bet the river there, so that may be a big leak of yours as i imagine you will do that quite often. The fact he had AK there is irrelevant, its a clear value bet because he can call us with worse hands, remember value betting is where we bet because more worse hands can call than better, so yeah every now and again we bet and lose to AK but many more times we bet and get called off weaker aces and smaller pairs than A.

I'd go through all your hands you won where you didnt bet the river, and think how much money you're losing, think would villain call a 1/3 bet here etc etc and think what hands he would call them with. The river is the most important street in nlhe, one player has 100% equity and the pot is already bloated so we can easily get more value from even small bets, and if we're raised we can easily fold, good luck!
 
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excellent advice acky, I was sure villain was gonna show up with Ace rag. He played his AK pretty bad......................
 
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Yeah me too, perfect for us when he does play so damn passively though, id make a note on this guy that doesn't value bet lightly, if he can even value bet at all because he's so passive, so when he does raise you you can get the **** out the hand :) As the hand played out the river is a shove because of the stack size he would have left and the current pot like tyler said, so he's not folding any weak aces there and might even call with Kx, nice hand imo.
 
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I dare anyone to guess the hole cards of a fish that min bet the river with this board: Q:spade:2:heart:9:spade:T:spade:4:heart:
 
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I dare anyone to guess the hole cards of a fish that min bet the river with this board: Q<font color='black'>♠</font>2<font color='red'>♥</font>9<font color='black'>♠</font>T<font color='black'>♠</font>4<font color='red'>♥</font>
5c7c
(it was me:) )
 
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Diary page for today

I can say proudly that, for a fish, I played pretty darn well today and got ~3.5BI up bringing my BR to a very confortable $118.91. Even if I had lost money I played very solid for my skill and worked out on some opening ranges vs fish in the blinds and aggression vs regulars in the process. It was one of those "in the zone" sessions.

Played two hands awfuly though. One because I should've shoved the flop and decided to slowplay against a bad reg on a 3bet pot and another where I rivered a nut flush and because I was looking at this thread (you owe me 1BI KD :D) and didn't notice the board was paired and called a shove.

Appart from that and from some stuff I keep doing in the blinds, I felt it was pretty much my mid-September A game.

For discussion

Has anyone noticed the crazy amount of 3betting happening in 2NL at PS? Any pair, offsuit connectors, ace high and apparently mostly from the blinds. It's insane! Not complaining though, lots of money to get from it and tomorrow is Saturday... :)

And...

5c7c
(it was me )

No, it wasn't you. :) And it wasn't that hand! :D
 
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Pretty much check because draw bricked so will not get pay for that, i am beat by AK which usually call raises and keep calling even turn.

So i should bet river too?, how much?.

acky already explained this and so did i in my first post. shove because of stack sizes

Sorry if this was for HA, one street question don´t look to me worth it.

guy have AK btw so i do save some money

honestly who cares. u have to understand ranges and yes sometimes u will be beat but a value bet is getting called by worse more often then getting called when beat

im not trying to be mean but seriously this is a forum and dont get so defensive when people disagree or say something u dont like as seen in ackys suggestion about HA section and then in the cash monthly thread. its just opinions so if u disagree then state why and u can discuss it. again not trying to be mean at all
 
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I have Nteller, and the poker site is offering me 150% match for any deposit.
As for moneybookers, thats the only way of getting my money out of UB(quoted from a rep there) so i need to get an account. is it a hard process to set it up brank? and Im guessing you're european?

Not hard at all. Ive never used Nteller but Id imagine it's very similar to Moneybookers. Just make sure you pick the currency for the account that you use most often because you cant change it once you pick.
 
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I meant to type neteller but I guess you understand that right, no idea what Nteller is..... I'll look into moneybookers hopefully this weekend.

RV crazy 3 betting isnt limited to PS, its happening so much everywhere now, I guess they see it happening on the telly.

Looking at getting a session in later if I get time.
 
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RV crazy 3 betting isnt limited to PS, its happening so much everywhere now, I guess they see it happening on the telly.

Yeah, I think it's TV copycat considering the hands I've seen. The Doyle, total rags like 95o. While I was writting I was 3bet. I was UTG, he was BTN... I'll post the hand later...
 
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Yeah, I think it's TV copycat considering the hands I've seen. The Doyle, total rags like 95o. While I was writting I was 3bet. I was UTG, he was BTN... I'll post the hand later...
The reason your getting 3bet by rags is villains are trying to polarize there range at lower limits now.
 
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I'll agree with you if the villain is a reg that is 3betting with small pairs and lower SCs and even then, most of them don't know what to do post flop.

But what I've been witnessing is completely different. It's fish defending the blinds 3betting with T2s when we are opening UTG. Their 3betting range from the blinds is wider than my range BTN when they are in the blinds making it quite profitable.
 
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Without other reads I don't call raises or shoves from these guys. They are are usually too passive to be doing this with TPTK and I be very surprised if it was a FD + gutshot or FD + pair something like that but then again... micros are full of surprises! :D

His PFR is low so what is he calling a 3bet with? Set-mining?


This was my thought process after the hand, in hindsight i think jamming is actually bad because this guy doesn't raise/call with AQ imo, like it sounds sooooo passive but I honestly can't remember seeing a 21/5 raising TPTK lol

Meh maybe being results orientated but he had QJ for two pair and it held up, afterwards I thought that there was a good chance an overpair was behind there.

Played some pub poker last night, structure was shit, started off 100/200 with 20 min blinds, starting stack of 5000 so 25 BB straight off, went out of the first one when I shoved 77 OTB over 2 limpers with 3500 at 200/400, guy in the BB (who actually arranged the whole thing but is a HUGE fish who thinks he knows what hes doing!) tanked for like 5 mins before calling with TT lol, think he was chip leader with about 9 or 10k so **** knows why he thought about folding.

Second one we played I shoved AK for about 5k in the SB after the table limps, get snap called by 77 and luckbox a K on the river to put me in a healthy spot, final hand HU, guy (who isnt actually that bad but was bored and drunk) called my 4K open blind, i check a T8x flop with QTs and he shoves, I call and he turns over 97 for one of the best hands he could have shown there but I hold and take it down for £50, so up £30 pokerwise but i think that just about covered taxi's, beer and food lol
 
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I don't think you are being results oriented, mate. What you did is what I do lots and lots of times. I have a plan for that villain and then overplay my hand. We know that's a fold and still we go "I HAZ TPTK!! IZ 3BET POT!! LOLSHOVE!!"

There's a rare situation where I open AA and get one caller that isn't a drooler. Flop has a straight flush draw. I cbet and the guy shoves and I call. I'm loosing this hand 60%+ of the time and that's assuming the best case scenario where he "just" has a monster draw, why the hell do I call? Because "OMG I HAZ AZEZ!!"

If we're micro, we're fish doing fish stuff. I guess the difference is that we want and try to do less and less fish stuff! :)
 
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The reason your getting 3bet by rags is villains are trying to polarize there range at lower limits now.

seriously, wtf does polarizing a range mean? Im terrible with poker terms.
 
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