Micro(2nl-25nl) cash game thread-October (Strat only)

[KerouacsDog]

just before I go to bed, my graphs for last month, the first is with stanjames, an english site, plus $8 rakeback.
the 2nd is with UB, I had $8 there, so have ran it up to $120, and now have found a way of getting it out, but I like it there, theres only 20 or so sharks, and about 200 fishes, so I have good notes on virtually every player, thats why the stats are so good: 36.64bb/100 playing a 25/6 style mainly 9max

 

[RVladimiro]

I agree you can have awful 20/17 players but I still think colour coding is great for identifying people who are like 75/5, because they are obviously massive donks and I want to be able to see that in the lobby and sit at those tables!! I wouldn't choose to sit on a table full of nits either, again, colour coding is useful. Why would you want to spend the whole time stealing adn achieving a low BB/100?

Seating on tables full of nits is just an example. I just want to point out that stats are just judging the book by its cover regarding other players and that I think it's bad to play to reach certain stats as a goal regarding ourselves.

Let me try to say it in another way: don't change the way you play because of stats, let stats show you how you are playing and where you can improve.

 

[KerouacsDog]

cant sleep, trying a 2table session at pokerstars right now, 2nl just to try it out. name's Kerouacs dog there(with the space)


*please run good*

 

[KerouacsDog]

early hand, no stats, turn bet was crap, right?

poker stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1472257
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $1.44
BB: $2.38
UTG: $1.00
UTG+1: $2.58
MP: $0.50
CO: $1.78
Hero (BTN): $2.05

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with 6c 6s
3 folds, CO calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: ($0.07) Kc Tc 6h (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.06, BB folds, CO calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.19) 3d (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.12, CO calls $0.12

River: ($0.43) Qs (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30

 

[KerouacsDog]

villain was 40/5 for 27 hands:

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1472268
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $2.00
BTN: $0.91
SB: $0.38
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.26
UTG+1: $1.65
Hero (MP): $2.06

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with As Ad
UTG raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.19, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.62) 4s Ks Qc (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.16, Hero raises to $0.72, SB folds, UTG raises to $1.06 all in, Hero calls $0.34

Turn: ($2.74) Jc (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($2.74) 3c (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $2.74
UTG shows 9d Qd (a pair of Queens)
Hero shows As Ad (a pair of Aces)
Hero wins $2.61
(Rake: $0.13)

 

[micromachine]

do you see enough colour-coded players that when you check any table you'll find a few you like/dislike?

Well, I've only just started colour coding them so, no, not yet. But hopefully in the future. Mostly when I join a table there are 1 or 2 players I have 50+ hands on, so if I colour code all those then it is def useful. And I will be able to colour more players as I go along. I think its gonna be useful mostly for identifying the really fishy players (dark green with my system) from the lobby and trying to sit at those tables.

 

[micromachine]

early hand, no stats, turn bet was crap, right?

I would have raised 4XBB with 66 on the button (not sure if this is always correct strategy for FR but here you have only 7 players so is like 6max anyway), that way your subsequent 3/4 pot bets are going to build a much larger pot. As played, you could have maybe tried to get a bit more on the river with a pot sized bet.

 

[acky100]

why didnt you raise 66 on the btn? regardless of 6max or FR we're on the button and limping is bad here unless you have a good reason too. Turn bet isn't exactly crap, its definitely a bet but just bet bigger. See if we raised 4x +1 per limper pf we could pot pot shove and have stacks in situations like this, as people are not gonna fold tptk and stuff.

 

[tenbob]

We raise 66 on the button with one limper for the following reason.

We isolate the fish and get HU in posn with a pair. He folds the best hand a ton when he flops something like bottom pair and we c-bet, we get stacks in easier when we flop a set and he hits top pair, we don't need to improve all that often when we are heads up.

We limp with 66 on the button rarely enough, but when several fish limp in then limping along is fine when we know that most of them will call a raise and we need to improve.

 

[micromachine]

second hand u posted is a standard example of donkey play what a donk calling your 3 bet with Q9s lol

might I suggest that if we are posting some hands here then we can give them a name so we don't get confused about which one we are talking about? and maybe try not to make them too frequent (use HH analysis forum for some of them) otherwise it will be confusing even if they are named.

 

[brank]

Lol KD. I almost started a "poker content only cash game thread" myself.

Almost everytime Ive posted poker related hands or questions they got ignored too and then with what happened lately I figured there was a need for one. People dont want to start a whole new thread for simple poker related questions but there is no where else to put them. I will be posting in here when I have time.

 

[orangepeeleo]

I've been wanting a thread like this for a while, like the Build a bankroll threads on 2p2, will move my diary thread to here then!

Currently playing 5nl FR at pokerstars with $292 in the roll.

This months graph so far (lolvolume) playing some pub poker tonight so not gonna get some more grinding in until sunday maybe, need to hammer it next week if im gonna have a chance to make silverstar this month!

 

[orangepeeleo]

This hand was the one I lost at the end of my last session, it could be a cooler but i'm not sure, villains like 21/5 afaik remember, not sure if this means I should take the raise as I would if he raises the turn, afterwards I just thought that he doesnt semi-bluff draws here, gets it in with KK+ pre, maybe even calls down with Qx hands, and only raises with stuff that is beating me??

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1472369
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $10.04
BB: $4.85
UTG: $5.35
MP: $10.01
CO: $2.26
BTN: $4.98

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with K :diamond: K :heart:
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) J :spade: Q :diamond: 5 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.65, BTN raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5.46, BTN calls $3.08 all in

Turn: ($10.01) 2 :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($10.01) A :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

 

[acky100]

looks pretty standard, unless he's a massive nit or something i dont see why he cant have AQ here which makes it okay

 

[KerouacsDog]

I would have raised 4XBB with 66 on the button (not sure if this is always correct strategy for FR but here you have only 7 players so is like 6max anyway), that way your subsequent 3/4 pot bets are going to build a much larger pot. As played, you could have maybe tried to get a bit more on the river with a pot sized bet.

why didnt you raise 66 on the btn? regardless of 6max or FR we're on the button and limping is bad here unless you have a good reason too. Turn bet isn't exactly crap, its definitely a bet but just bet bigger. See if we raised 4x +1 per limper pf we could pot pot shove and have stacks in situations like this, as people are not gonna fold tptk and stuff.

We raise 66 on the button with one limper for the following reason.

We isolate the fish and get HU in posn with a pair. He folds the best hand a ton when he flops something like bottom pair and we c-bet, we get stacks in easier when we flop a set and he hits top pair, we don't need to improve all that often when we are heads up.

We limp with 66 on the button rarely enough, but when several fish limp in then limping along is fine when we know that most of them will call a raise and we need to improve.

thanks for advice.
some of the time I limp PP under 77, and sometimes I raise. Way I see it if I limp, more people stay in, so if I hit my set theres more chance to build a bigger pot. If someone raises my limp I go along if the situation is right. If I raise, and someone 3bets me, then I have to put a lot more into the pot, and if I miss on the flop< ive lost more. This is skewed, right? Villain had QT, 2 pair, so I guess if I had played it right we would have been playing for stacks.

 

[RVladimiro]

This hand was the one I lost at the end of my last session, it could be a cooler but i'm not sure, villains like 21/5 afaik remember, not sure if this means I should take the raise as I would if he raises the turn, afterwards I just thought that he doesnt semi-bluff draws here, gets it in with KK+ pre, maybe even calls down with Qx hands, and only raises with stuff that is beating me??

Without other reads I don't call raises or shoves from these guys. They are are usually too passive to be doing this with TPTK and I be very surprised if it was a FD + gutshot or FD + pair something like that but then again... micros are full of surprises!

His PFR is low so what is he calling a 3bet with? Set-mining?

 

[KerouacsDog]

second hand u posted is a standard example of donkey play what a donk calling your 3 bet with Q9s lol

might I suggest that if we are posting some hands here then we can give them a name so we don't get confused about which one we are talking about? and maybe try not to make them too frequent (use HH analysis forum for some of them) otherwise it will be confusing even if they are named.

in the future Im only gonna post one hand from each session, either just a fun hand, or one needing analysis. IF I think its real tricky, will post independently in a HA thread. Sound good?

Lol KD. I almost started a "poker content only cash game thread" myself.

Almost everytime Ive posted poker related hands or questions they got ignored too and then with what happened lately I figured there was a need for one. People dont want to start a whole new thread for simple poker related questions but there is no where else to put them. I will be posting in here when I have time.

thats cool, lets hope this thread works

I've been wanting a thread like this for a while, like the Build a Bankroll threads on 2p2, will move my diary thread to here then!

Currently playing 5nl FR at pokerstars with $292 in the roll.

This months graph so far (lolvolume) playing some pub poker tonight so not gonna get some more grinding in until sunday maybe, need to hammer it next week if im gonna have a chance to make silverstar this month!

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yeah cool op. I did my short session at PS earlier, liked it way more than I did before for some reason, wierd thing is my HEM worked for a normal table, but not a fast table, not sure what that is.
Im thinkning I can play cash when I only get a n hour or so a day, then once a week on my day(s) off, I use the fpp to play tourneys,which I prefer when I have time.

 

[KerouacsDog]

so I won $58 in a freeroll at a site where I havent deposited yet. do i deposit and then try to take all the money out, or do I grind cash and see if I can get the money out/run it up?. The software sucks, but I get rb there.

 

[RVladimiro]

Grind it. If you got a free BR, by all means abuse it.

 

[KerouacsDog]

Grind it. If you got a free BR, by all means abuse it.

ok, trying 4l 6max (limit) 2 tables.

 

[Logan2]

Glad the topic is working so far.

do you see enough colour-coded players that when you check any table you'll find a few you like/dislike? what Im saying is that pokerstars have so many players online, is it worth colour-coding them ie do you run into those same players often???? thats kinda what partly puts me off PS. I like to play a site where I regularly meet the same fish and avoid the same sharks.

Yes, you will bump players more frecuently than you think, Stars still have the bigger traffic but after BF numbers are not the same, so if you usually play at same times you will find a lot of same players there.

I think its gonna be useful mostly for identifying the really fishy players (dark green with my system) from the lobby and trying to sit at those tables.

Aside of fish i find it useful also for blind stealing, if can get decent tables where the 2 players to my left are nits then i know stealing will be profitable. I don´t like to have >18/16 players to my left that 3bet light.

yeah cool op. I did my short session at PS earlier, liked it way more than I did before for some reason, wierd thing is my HEM worked for a normal table, but not a fast table, not sure what that is.
Im thinkning I can play cash when I only get a n hour or so a day, then once a week on my day(s) off, I use the fpp to play tourneys,which I prefer when I have time.

Check you have the last update for Hem, last i have is 1.12.04, fast tables should work.

so I won $58 in a freeroll at a site where I havent deposited yet. do i deposit and then try to take all the money out, or do I grind cash and see if I can get the money out/run it up?. The software sucks, but I get rb there.

If you think can win more on those freebies maybe want to keep the option open for when like to play donkaments, maybe deposit the min. for future cashouts, or if the site sucks then withdraw.

 

[KerouacsDog]

yeah the site has a $10k freeroll every month 150 players, only played it once so far and cashed, so will stick with it at least for that.


limits a wierd game lol

 

[Logan2]

Want to add that i´m playing 5nl/FR on Stars, mostly hit & run sessions 30min-1hr.



Month so far.

 

[Logan2]

Not much on villain, 44/11 on 18hands.

was not sure what to do in river.


Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -

MP1: $2.38
Hero (MP2): $5.00
CO: $4.46
BTN: $4.17
SB: $4.92
BB: $5.05
UTG: $7.93
UTG+1: $5.26
UTG+2: $3.12

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP2 with Q

A

UTG calls $0.05, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.20, 1 fold, BB calls $0.15, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.82) A

K

6

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.70, BTN calls $0.70, BB folds, UTG folds

Turn: ($2.22) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.70, BTN calls $1.70

River: ($5.62) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

 

[TylerN]

b/f river. can call any Ax and maybe KQ KJ cause draws bricked

edit: just shove I didnt look at stacks