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Ducky7
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Ducky7
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RamdeeBen
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MTT's are soul crushing me at the moment so having a bit of a change and adding cash games to my grind to try reduce mtt $$$ swings.
Sooo, does anyone fancy sweating or letting me sweat them or better still give me a bit of coaching to plug some of my leaks? Playing mainly 6max 25nl at the minute a mixture of 100bb and deep tables on stars.
Would be soooo grateful. ;[
Sooo, does anyone fancy sweating or letting me sweat them or better still give me a bit of coaching to plug some of my leaks? Playing mainly 6max 25nl at the minute a mixture of 100bb and deep tables on stars.
Would be soooo grateful. ;[
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RamdeeBen
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Nice one pal sounds good. Just message me when you're free.
Not seen a post from you in months! Maybe just missed your posts or something, or have you been away? Either way good to hear from you and sure come along.
Obviously just variance squeezing 62s vs UTG+MP if it aint working out.
On another note, whilst grinding both 100bb and the 250bb deep tables, I'm finding the deep tables have less regs more fish and generally much more bad play. Is this normal or have I just been lucky with tables or something? I'd of thought 250bb>100bb would be much more tougher..
BenjiHustle
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I've heard the opposite. Maybe give it some time as we're just coming off of a weekend. Try them out for the rest of the week and see how you feel. Maybe you're just big on bluffing and they'll let you get away with that for a while at the deep tables; be careful.
OMGITSOVER9K
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tourney regs.
PokerStars - £0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG: £19.87 (VPIP: 41.10, PFR: 30.14, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, hands: 75)
MP: £10.35 (VPIP: 26.83, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 43)
CO: £34.66 (VPIP: 37.44, PFR: 28.32, 3Bet Preflop: 14.44, Hands: 230)
BTN: £26.48 (VPIP: 17.68, PFR: 15.52, 3Bet Preflop: 5.74, Hands: 516)
SB: £25.10 (VPIP: 21.26, PFR: 16.92, 3Bet Preflop: 6.11, Hands: 2,097)
Hero (BB): £29.42
SB posts SB £0.10, Hero posts BB £0.25
Pre Flop: (pot: £0.35) Hero has A:diamond: Q:heart:
fold, fold, CO raises to £0.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to £2.35, CO calls £1.60
Flop: (£4.80, 2 players) 7:club: 9:spade: 9:club:
Hero checks, CO checks
Turn: (£4.80, 2 players) Q:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets £3.50, Hero calls £3.50
River: (£11.80, 2 players) 3:club:
Hero checks, CO bets £8.75, Hero calls £8.75
CO shows 4:diamond: 6:diamond: (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 39%, Flop 25%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A:diamond: Q:heart: (Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (Pre 61%, Flop 75%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins £28.05
Hero shows A:diamond: Q:heart: (Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (Pre 61%, Flop 75%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins £28.05
duggs
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I think regs at deep are more polarised, lots of bad ones, but some really really good ones as you move up. I mean some of them run very aggressive but are actually reasonable winners. Think it's just fish stand out more as they have at least 100bb in front of them and could punt 250bb in a hand
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RamdeeBen
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lol, yeah pretty terrible river bet by me and overall badly played hand in general by me, I guess it was late or I'd played a lot and just wanted to try own you but nothing makes any sense after my flop check.
Against anyone else I'd of probably just given up on river , nor would I of fired the river but because it was vs you I wanted to decrease my win rate on the small off chance you fold anything just so I bluffed you for mainly the sake of it just so I felt good about bluffing you. Seriously though, I guess I should bet each street if I'm expecting you to fold at all anything but I didn't expect you to fold much of anything to a CB. Not c betting that flop I guess was a huge mistake if I really wanted to rep some flush draws in my range to so my turn and river barrel was pretty awful although I guess I can rep those KQ/AQ's too but I also guess you wouldn't be folding even hands like 88 but even then being OOP and given my 3B % I guess you wouldn't be flatting those low/middle pairs OOP either and probably just 4B sigh call it off pre or am I mistaken? So you're flatting range here vs me is like what KQ/AQ and your strongest hands JJ+ in this spot?
All in all, I think this is where my major leaks and FPS effects any potential win rate I may have because I try do stupid stuff like this occasionally vs good players or just even regs who aren't folding much and have to bring back that 50bb vs the even more terrible players than myself when I just play a more solid TAG game at these stakes and probably wins. I guess this this is one of the glaring leaks I need to fix more than any at the moment, as it hurting my win rate so thanks for pointing it out
Liked the way you played it though, you owned me NH.
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RamdeeBen
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Yeah I agree with that for sure. Although there's a lot more calling of 3b's and 4b's for obvious reasons. I found a reg there yesterday he had like redic high stats 50/40 and 25% 3B yet seemed to be crushing. Fish was just so bad it was shocking, not even seen such punt offs so regularly at the 100bb tables as I have here. I'm talking lots of 4x pot shoves on flop with over pairs seems quite normal at 25nl deep..
250BB play is softer for sure, its a lot less solved and much less info on it (however at higher limits the better regs are wayyyy better)
I mean Duggs plays it, doesnt that tell a story in itself
Defiantly lots of good and interesting spots come up like which seem obvious standard with 50bb behind on the turn, suddenly you're left with gross turn and river decisions vs decent players for tons of BB's.
Yeah for sure, duggs can teach me the deep games whilst you can teach me the 100bb, seems good?
Just say yes. Thanks.
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DunningKruger
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At the stakes you guys are talking about, deep tables are about as soft as warm butter. Maybe hot butter. Think 8oz stick of butter sitting directly in the core of our planet's sun. Players either don't adjust for effective stack depth, or not enough, or do so incorrectly (for instance folding everything except the stone cold nuts when raised).
That's a weird one to do without using a sim. I can't be assed to account for every type of hand right now but for hands where all your cards have a unique rank (which only happens ~21% of the time and maximizes the chances of an identical 7 ranks in another hand) then it's 21/45 × 18/44 × 15/43 × 12/42 × 9/41 × 6/40 × 3/39. This is less than 0.00005% and only applies when exactly 2 players are dealt into the hand. Multiplying by n where n is equal to the number of players other than yourself dealt into the hand works as a rough approximation although the greater the number of players the more this is going to break down.
That's a weird one to do without using a sim. I can't be assed to account for every type of hand right now but for hands where all your cards have a unique rank (which only happens ~21% of the time and maximizes the chances of an identical 7 ranks in another hand) then it's 21/45 × 18/44 × 15/43 × 12/42 × 9/41 × 6/40 × 3/39. This is less than 0.00005% and only applies when exactly 2 players are dealt into the hand. Multiplying by n where n is equal to the number of players other than yourself dealt into the hand works as a rough approximation although the greater the number of players the more this is going to break down.
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ScottishMatt
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hackmeplz
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In the 64s hand I actually think turn bet is far worse than the river bet and I think pre is pretty attrocious too. But in general you want to be betting the worst hands in your range on rivers as a bluff so when you have 6 high seems like a fine time to bluff unless you literally want a 0% bluff range. Turn though I hate you have absolutely no equity you should be literally betting 100% of your range there if you're betting this hand and I think it's pretty obvious why that's bad.
LuckyChippy
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Ducky7
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Yeah for sure, duggs can teach me the deep games whilst you can teach me the 100bb, seems good?
I mean the hindrance from Duggs's input could be catastrophic
OMGITSOVER9K
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How i imagine Chippy in the Sunday Milly
you stole a gif off of deuces
OMGITSOVER9K
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RamdeeBen
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Thanks Zach for the input. Interesting you think betting river is better than turn though? How can my bluffs ever work with when I'm just checking back flop and turn? How credible does my line look doing that and just firing the river? Surely I get looked up more often as opposed to betting the turn?
Looking at it I'd of thought c betting and barreling turn and shoving river would of probably been the best line given I can rep flush draws quite well at this point.
Agree with the 3B pre being horrible given he only folds to 65% 3B's pre it doesn't seem to great.
I mean the hindrance from Duggs's input could be catastrophic
lol ah right I see.
I just meant obviously my line was terrible. I don't think you're ever flatting that much OOP other than your strongest range of hands so you're going to have a lot of KQ/AQ hands and some slow played JJ+ hands which obviously when you call turn seems pretty terrible to then barrel the river. I assume you're probably just going to be 4B getting in your low/middle pairs pre rather than flatting those hands OOP?
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