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you know if he won the hand he would claim all were in play. i would be fuming

exactly

I mean I think from his actions, he clearly only felt that the 300$ was in play, like the jam on flop...he was bad, but not THAT bad lol. He didn't even seem too upset at losing since he kind of auto-defaulted to "lol only 300$".

I still haven't decided whether he was angling me to gain an advantage or just a clueless reg who had no idea
 
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can you go over the floor ruling?
i would make a huge scene
 
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hmm from the sounds of his reactions at least you weren't getting angled so wouldn't be quite as pissed. Still the incorrect ruling.
 
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slightly off topic, can someone explain to me why opens are so big live?

is it to tighten random fishes ranges so you don't end up going 6way to every flop? and if so should we be sitting deeper to compensate? and if we follow that ruling then do we end up counting say for example.. 200bbs as a buyin now?

was on the waiting list for a game last night where everyone was deep and 5/6x was standard open so just trying to understand, thanks
 
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can you go over the floor ruling?
i would make a huge scene

sure..

Dealer called floor. Floor came over, dealer explained what happened. Reg said he didn't have the chips "on the felt", but on the black railing, so it wasn't "in play". Argued the counter that he was still in system, being dealt for BBJ, typical arguments. Floor thought for a moment, then decided to rule in favor of reg. One guy at table was going off about how ridic it was lol. I argued as much as possible, but once the ruling came down, I think my chances became slim to none so I told him I respectfully disagreed and racked up to leave.


hmm from the sounds of his reactions at least you weren't getting angled so wouldn't be quite as pissed. Still the incorrect ruling.

Yeah, I think he's just completely clueless and had no idea what he was doing. He's a "reg", but literally zero online experience and he's an older guy, probably in his late 60's, early 70's so it kind of adds up. I tend to always see the good in people, so I'd like to think it was an elaborate ploy to save 900$, but hell after the Shiloh experience, I have to constantly remember that people will scam for any amount of money sometimes.


slightly off topic, can someone explain to me why opens are so big live?

is it to tighten random fishes ranges so you don't end up going 6way to every flop? and if so should we be sitting deeper to compensate? and if we follow that ruling then do we end up counting say for example.. 200bbs as a buyin now?

was on the waiting list for a game last night where everyone was deep and 5/6x was standard open so just trying to understand, thanks


gotta raise to protect the hand! You don't want those bad players coming in with any two!!!!


But for real, think about it. If you can raise 10x and still get calls pre, your going to gain so much more when they c/f flops like most live fish will do. Also, making SPR smaller works when we have made hands so if you 10x pre, pot flop, pot turn is almost a shove and if not, river's loleasy assuming 100bbs.
 
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but hell after the Shiloh experience, I have to constantly remember that people will scam for any amount of money sometimes.

But for real, think about it. If you can raise 10x and still get calls pre, your going to gain so much more when they c/f flops like most live fish will do. Also, making SPR smaller works when we have made hands so if you 10x pre, pot flop, pot turn is almost a shove and if not, river's loleasy assuming 100bbs.

Shiloh <3

so you're saying its better to sit deeper and make raises bigger pre? I normally 3.5x 100bbs deep but 7x will probably get the job done in my games so..
 
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Shiloh <3

so you're saying its better to sit deeper and make raises bigger pre? I normally 3.5x 100bbs deep but 7x will probably get the job done in my games so..

Depends, but essentially yes.

I will preface that with assuming we are raising value hands and stack sizes are 100+. But in theory, if you can raise 7x with AA and get calls every time, it's going to be better than raising 3.5x w/AA and getting calls. Like at 1/3 live, I don't think you need to conceal anything. Yes, some of the thinking regs will catch on eventually, but your playing for the fish. If you have a big hand, raise bigger, worse hand raise smaller. This sounds a bit counter intuitive imo, like giving away info so easily, but until someone catches on/fish stop paying it off, I'd just keep playing incredibly straightforward.

Sorry, I'm at work so that might be a bit jumbled :p but I think the general idea is just because something might be considered ridiculous online doesn't mean it won't crush live low limits. I don't do this at 2/5 however since the regs will start 3b light and crushing me for 7x every time though lol.
 
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in b4 I get flamed for giving away information preflop and how it's killing my hourly and winrate
 
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in b4 I get flamed for giving away information preflop and how it's killing my hourly and winrate

Now I'm definitely coming to Pittsburgh.


No but seriously, Deuces is right. In 1/2 and 1/3 games, you're sizing so large because our overall edge is huge, so we get TONS of value even when raising with a marginal hand. Plus, a $6 preflop raise at 1/2 is practically a limp in terms of what your opponents will call with. When you raise to $12 or $15, they tighten up at least a little bit and let's us range them more accurately. They're still willing to call with a really wide range though.
 
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the function of the bigger size is to get more value, not to get called less tho
 
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sup?

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Born June 6th, 8lbs. 21"
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Awesome. Congrats.
 
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Thanks WV; currently taking advantage of some vacation time to play sum-a-da pokerz.
 
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cute baby man
 
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played live today on 2/5; left with a win of 250$. going back manana to keep at it.

biggest thing i have to work out is patience; my work and life has me at 100mph, this was in a way a loss as i was up 700$ and lost 2 hands to fish. first hand was an obvious re-shove with a set of Ts on a rainbow-disconnected flop; 3h2sTc. . . 5s7s= TT<As3s

2nd was tilt on me; KQhh <AT on a K98 rainbow flop, guy shoves with 2 bi's and makes his A on the riv.
 
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Down 6 buy-ins for the month, a third of the way through. Short on hands by 1.5k or so, too.

Baby dick size jokes really kill a thread, eh?

Congratulations on a healthy baby.
 
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Speaking of baby dick size, where is peelio? Thought he was back?
 
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Speaking of baby dick size, where is LuckyChippy?
 
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Speaking of baby dick size, where is, oh, never mind this could go on all day.
 
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GonnaPeeBaby

Then I noticed, he stopped...
 
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You better behave yourself WV.

Deuces, I'd be furious but I can't say I'm surprised considering who you both were, he likely makes them a lot of money. The one thing that sucks major balls about live play.

World cup tomorrow :)
 
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You better behave yourself WV.

Deuces, I'd be furious but I can't say I'm surprised considering who you both were, he likely makes them a lot of money. The one thing that sucks major balls about live play.

World cup tomorrow :)
Guess my evil plan worked. What's the World cup?
 
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Down 6 buy-ins for the month, a third of the way through. Short on hands by 1.5k or so, too.
Last 2 days.

Last 2

About World Cup, is the perfect reason to not play much for next 15 days.
 
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stupid question here, also about tournaments (yeah yeah yeah, cash thread I know, w/e)

Satellite runs at my local: £35 in for 2 £550 packages which can be added together for a 550 or broken into smaller pieces for other tournaments etc. They can also be sold.

How much should I be selling tickets for % wise? like 95% or 75% or what? obv I want to make as much as possible so easy answer is as high as they'll buy for but I was wondering about the standard.

thanks guys! :)
 
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