**Jackles Getting serious CASH Thread**

[pocketehs]

3-bet percentage you need to be facing in order to 4-bet/call off
* KK+: Good against any range
* QQ: vs 3% or higher (3% is AK, JJ+, 40 combos total)
* JJ: vs 6.5% or higher
* TT: vs 8.5% or higher
* 99: vs 10.5% or higher
* 88: vs 12.5% or higher
* 77: vs 14% or higher
* AKs: vs 3% or higher (AK, JJ+, 40 combos total)
* AQs: vs 8% or higher
* AJs: vs 13% or higher
* AKo: vs 5% or higher (AK, JJ+, plus 22% bluffs)
* AQo: vs 9% or higher

 

[Jackle43]

ehh no session today, got so many assignments at the moment so I could not even fit a session in. Hopefully tomoz!! Can someone tell me how to put spoilers in messages??

 

[Jackle43]

Man you need to label your hands or something. I'll go in order:

H1: He has a ton of FDs here imo so I barrel the river. Hard for him to show up with weird 1 pair hands, though you didn't post any stats so I guess he can have some 8s in his range? But you said he's a reg and not a station so I go for the barrel. He likely folds some 8s at least some of the time, and he's never calling down Axcc here.

H2: Totally standard. Great board to cbet, and I expect to take it down a ton. WP.

H3: Fine vs. most players at these limits, but don't leave him 7c behind on the flop. Just put it in since you're obv never folding when he bets 7c into $1.32 on the turn. NH.

H4: Standard. Nice iso size imo, and ofc snap-calling that flop with a FD and an over for that price.

H5: Consider checking behind this flop. We obviously can't bet for value unless you think so many draws stay in that you barrel blank turns and blank rivers knowing that draws missed. But imo just check it and give up. If it's HU I'd be more willing to try the barreling approach. But these players limped and called a raise. You won't be getting enough folds from any part of their ranges to make this +EV imo.

Haha yeah sorry I will start labeling them.
H5 Defenetly did consider checking it back on the flop but I put him on a draw so I dont really know why I didnt keep firing there

 

[Jackle43]

3-bet percentage you need to be facing in order to 4-bet/call off
* KK+: Good against any range
* QQ: vs 3% or higher (3% is AK, JJ+, 40 combos total)
* JJ: vs 6.5% or higher
* TT: vs 8.5% or higher
* 99: vs 10.5% or higher
* 88: vs 12.5% or higher
* 77: vs 14% or higher
* AKs: vs 3% or higher (AK, JJ+, 40 combos total)
* AQs: vs 8% or higher
* AJs: vs 13% or higher
* AKo: vs 5% or higher (AK, JJ+, plus 22% bluffs)
* AQo: vs 9% or higher

Thanks Pockets, will have a good look at this soon!

 

[Logan2]

ehh no session today, got so many assignments at the moment so I could not even fit a session in. Hopefully tomoz!! Can someone tell me how to put spoilers in messages??

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[Jackle43]

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Thanks Logan!

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Haha yeah sorry I will start labeling them.
H5 Defenetly did consider checking it back on the flop but I put him on a draw so I dont really know why I didnt keep firing there

You said they are a bunch of stations? So how are you narrowing their flop ranges to just draws when they limp-call preflop? They have tons of Kx and Jx that they won't want to fold and you're going to have to fire multiple barrels to take them off of them.

Just because he had a draw this time doesn't mean they will always have no pair!! Imo just check behind. There is no reason to be bluffing here against these players imo. Just check and hope to bink or be ahead.

 

[Jackle43]

You said they are a bunch of stations? So how are you narrowing their flop ranges to just draws when they limp-call preflop? They have tons of Kx and Jx that they won't want to fold and you're going to have to fire multiple barrels to take them off of them.

Just because he had a draw this time doesn't mean they will always have no pair!! Imo just check behind. There is no reason to be bluffing here against these players imo. Just check and hope to bink or be ahead.

Yeah I know exactly what you are saying and I cant justify it by anymore then saying that is how I felt at the time and I beleived he was drawing, That is why im unsure that I didnt fire again. But yes in reality his range was almost ATC on the flop

 

[Jackle43]

Hand 1: Larry

poker stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2154736
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SB: $1.10
BB: $5.88
UTG: $5.89
MP: $8.48
CO: $5.01
Hero (BTN): $2.00

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with Q :spade: K :spade:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, 1 fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) 5 :spade: 9 :club: 2 :spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.10, BB raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.53) T :spade: (2 players)
BB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

River: ($1.13) K :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.58, BB folds

Final Pot: $1.13
Hero wins $1.09
(Rake: $0.04)

Hand 2: Frank

Villian was a 36/30 over about 100 hands

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 2154737
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CO: $2.07
BTN: $1.71
Hero (SB): $2.00
BB: $2.00

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with J :diamond: Q :heart:
CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.08, BTN calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.32) 3 :spade: T :club: J :heart: (3 players)
Hero bets $0.22, CO calls $0.22, BTN folds

Turn: ($0.76) 7 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, CO raises to $1.75 all in, Hero calls $1.08 all in

River: ($4.12) 8 :club: (2 players - 2 are all in)

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Final Pot: $4.12
CO shows 9 :spade: T :spade: (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Hero shows J :diamond: Q :heart: (a pair of Jacks)
CO wins $3.98
(Rake: $0.14)

 

[micromachine]

Larry : standard, not much to say about him

Frank : Unlucky. I would've bet less OTT, more like 40c, then I think I could find a fold when he shoves.

 

[pocketehs]

Larry : standard, not much to say about him

Frank : Unlucky. I would've bet less OTT, more like 40c, then I think I could find a fold when he shoves.

Yeah I agree. Hand 2 is such a wet board to try to GII with TPGK.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Larry: NH.
Frank: Might be nitty but I might fold pre. Just hammer them from IP when you're 4-handed. Yes you are ahead of their ranges even when they call, and yes you probably have a post-flop edge, but you're almost guaranteed to 3way to the flop, with a mediocre hand OOP. Just my 2c. If villain was more of a mega-fish I'd be more inclined to play it exactly as you did.

Also idk if you had any post-flop reads? It's kind of a weird spot but it's draw-heavy enough that I think it's fine to GII as played.

 

[ScottishMatt]

Larry: I probably raise the turn, it makes your hand fairly obvious but most morons don't pay enough attention. If he has 2 pair or better he is calling a turn check/raise and if he has a flush himself you GII ahead most of the time.

Frank : I like the isolation pre, so long as you are comfortable playing OOP post. You will dominate their range so often that I reckon it is profitable long term. Flop is a definite valubet, same on the turn, but probably a bit smaller. Without reads, fold to the shove.

 

[Jackle43]

With Frank I was going for value on the flop and turn and when he re raised OTT I tanked for ages because I really felt I was ahead, though this spot I am normally folding I just Thought his line was a bit off for some reason so I called, I was happy I made the call and I was ahead but I was wondering if it was a bad call.
It was a call really of feel and something was telling me I was good here...

 

[Jackle43]

Another vairiance filled session roll down to $68 at the moment. Running -8Bis below EV been reveiwing some sessions and trying to find some leaks but I really am getting the money in good most hands.
Confidence taking a bit of a battering

 

[Matt Vaughan]

If you're getting the money in good then there's no reason for your confidence to take a battering. Don't feel bad if it is, cause it happens to all of us, but so long as you are playing your best AND working to improve, try not to worry that much about the rest.

 

[micromachine]

If you're getting the money in good then there's no reason for your confidence to take a battering. Don't feel bad if it is, cause it happens to all of us, but so long as you are playing your best AND working to improve, try not to worry that much about the rest.

Exactly.

Try not to focus on your roll too much, you have plenty of buy-ins for 2nl so don't worry about fluctuations of a few buy-ins due to variance.

Dropping 10+ buy-ins due to variance is commonplace, try and accept that it's part of the game and out of your control.

 

[Jackle43]

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2158447
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UTG: $3.24
CO: $0.80
BTN: $3.37
Hero (SB): $2.43
BB: $3.48

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with K :diamond: A :club:
UTG raises to $0.07, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.42) J :club: K :club: 5 :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.31, UTG calls $0.31

Turn: ($1.04) A :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, UTG raises to $2, Hero???]

Is he calling a 3bet with QT here and then chasing?

 

[Jackle43]

Possibly AQ type hand and picked up the flush draw with the ace on turn?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2158447
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UTG: $3.24
CO: $0.80
BTN: $3.37
Hero (SB): $2.43
BB: $3.48

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with K <font color='red'>♦</font> A <font color='black'>♣</font>
UTG raises to $0.07, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.42) J <font color='black'>♣</font> K <font color='black'>♣</font> 5 <font color='black'>♠</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $0.31, UTG calls $0.31

Turn: ($1.04) A <font color='red'>♥</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, UTG raises to $2, Hero???]

Is he calling a 3bet with QT here and then chasing?

Any stats? My gut says he's over-valuing a hand we have crushed, but with no stats or reads it's really hard to say much here.

 

[Jackle43]

Any stats? My gut says he's over-valuing a hand we have crushed, but with no stats or reads it's really hard to say much here.

No stats at all.. Yeah I felt like he was over valuing as well but really unsure...

 

[Jackle43]

Comon CC this is a hand I really wanted to chat about

 

[duggs]

i just gii since he can have worse 2pair and draws still. its gross because sets and straights stack us but still not folding. having Ac hurts us here

 

[Jackle43]

i just gii since he can have worse 2pair and draws still. its gross because sets and straights stack us but still not folding. having Ac hurts us here

There are so many hands we beat but so many that beat us haha, So are we All in calling all the time here??? Pretty hard spot I thought.

 

[ScottishMatt]

I think you pretty much have to GII here.

FWIW though I would be making it bigger pre. If I'm OOP I'll be making my 3-bets 3.5-4x.