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I'm also from Melbourne... Hey at least you broke even, so means your winning hands.... I was calling too many river bets and that has hurt me badly in the past.

Use to play in NPPL a lot which was a pub league.
 
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I'm also from Melbourne... Hey at least you broke even, so means your winning hands.... I was calling too many river bets and that has hurt me badly in the past.

Use to play in NPPL a lot which was a pub league.

Yeah haha im winning hands, but cant get ontop of it lately...
Yeah I play at crown a bit havnt played in the pub leagues
 
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For example when I was multitabling 6 tables.. I'd have $130... go up to $150 then fall back to $110 and then go back to $130... I'd generally keep even myself unless I tilted.

That's why I started to just mainly go for the fpp's but now I've cut down that and just 1 tabling for a month to try and clean my game up... Anything bad or losing hands i'll post on here regardless how bad it makes me look.

I was at crown lastnight but i'll be taking a break from there for a month... Not running good there tho I started with 200 and up 4000 ... but fell down a lil
 
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hand 1 i probably go bigger pre, bigger turn, as played shove river, tag him and move on.

hand 2 looks good if you folded.
 
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hand 1 i probably go bigger pre, bigger turn, as played shove river, tag him and move on.

hand 2 looks good if you folded.

Any thoughts on the massive Break even stretch??
dont worry about it or obv loosing value/spewing spots?
 
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Any thoughts on the massive Break even stretch??
dont worry about it or obv loosing value/spewing spots?

well both really, you probably are spewing in spots. but thats not something to lose any sleep over since everyone does. sort your mental game out and stressing because that definitely hurts your bottom line
 
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well both really, you probably are spewing in spots. but thats not something to lose any sleep over since everyone does. sort your mental game out and stressing because that definitely hurts your bottom line

Yeah I really need to sort mental game out. After this psych exam which im completely ****ed for I will have time to grind without extra stresss
 
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Last months graph, I cant beat this game haha, just Break Even apparently

https://www.cardschat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50727&stc=1&d=1370145950

You could be playing 8 or 10 or 6 tables... But in the end of the day if you want to improve your bankroll you need to change something.

You sound like you have other things happening, perhaps lowering your table amount, no point doing 20k if your breaking even or 40k if your losing money... perhaps doing 5,000 your up $20... you want to be winning, it's not always about volumne but what works for you and build from that.


Perhaps the breaking even business means your on the limit of what you can handle... So drop a table or two and you might be pleasantly surprised... Check out your daily grind sessions are you losing that hr at the end of the day? maybe your going on a bit too long.
 
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Reg got super tilty, so i thought I would punish him

poker stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2228322
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SB: $6.43
BB: $6.57
Hero (UTG): $6.65
CO: $9.42
BTN: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with 4 :heart: 4 :diamond:
Hero raises to $0.15, 3 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 5 :heart: 4 :club: Q :heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.80, Hero raises to $2.45, BB raises to $6.42 all in, Hero calls $3.97

Turn: ($13.16) 6 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($13.16) 5 :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)
 
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Hey-o. I was on a "field trip" for my internship. Lots of hiking and geological junk. Was tiring but rewarding. Hoping to hop back into playing tonight or tomorrow at the latest.

Hand above, wp. If he seems tilty and aggro just gii. He can have flush draws and Qx here.
 
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AQ hand: Raise a bit more preflop when OOP so you don't invite calls every time and get more in the middle when they do. Everything else looks fine.

AA hand: Fold the turn. I don't think you will find any regs at this limit capable of raising here without the nuts.

44 hand: Standard and fine.
 
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Villian is 24/21 over 80 hands

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BTN: $5.00
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $5.00
UTG: $1.41
MP: $1.63
CO: $2.55

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A :heart: K :club:
UTG raises to $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.10, BTN raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.30, 3 folds, BTN raises to $5 all in, Hero????
 
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Donk bets will be the death of me..
how do we face this? what does he have?


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Hero (BTN): $5.42
SB: $6.64
BB: $4.47
CO: $3.02

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with Q :spade: K :diamond:
CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, CO calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47) 3 :diamond: J :club: 8 :club: (2 players)
CO bets $0.10, Hero???
 
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Villian is 24/21 over 80 hands

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BTN: $5.00
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $5.00
UTG: $1.41
MP: $1.63
CO: $2.55

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A K
UTG raises to $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.10, BTN raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.30, 3 folds, BTN raises to $5 all in, Hero????

Villain 3b stat? I usually not gii AKo unless villain 3b stat is really high, his vpip don´t say much because could open wide but still only 3b premiums. Best scenario with his 5b could be QQ which is still high variance for us but probably more AA/KK.
Not enough hands to look on 3b on Btn but 80 hands are enough to know how much he 3b in general. His 5b range is usually even more tight-er than his 3b range.


Donk bets will be the death of me..
how do we face this? what does he have?


Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 2229362
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Hero (BTN): $5.42
SB: $6.64
BB: $4.47
CO: $3.02

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with Q K
CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, CO calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47) 3 J 8 (2 players)
CO bets $0.10, Hero???
min bets are usually draws that want to continue for cheap or the nuts that want to induce, i probably just call, we don´t want to raise and increase the pot with air unless we know he have a fold button, folding looks so pussie considering he give almost 5/1.
 
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H1 forget to say that 4b folding is usually bad, so if you are 4b what is your plan if get 5b? flatting the 3b OOP looks bad, maybe 4b gii yourself is better than 4b raise. Tbh i just gii there or fold (yeah i know what a nit folding AK but prefeer to avoid those spots and lose 2c than get on trouble not know what to do.)

Edit.. just realize H1 is a squeze so in general his raise there could be wider having position but still after you 4b his 5b is not wider anymore i think.
 
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H1 forget to say that 4b folding is usually bad, so if you are 4b what is your plan if get 5b? flatting the 3b OOP looks bad, maybe 4b gii yourself is better than 4b raise. Tbh i just gii there or fold (yeah i know what a nit folding AK but prefeer to avoid those spots and lose 2c than get on trouble not know what to do.)

Edit.. just realize H1 is a squeze so in general his raise there could be wider having position but still after you 4b his 5b is not wider anymore i think.

4 bet folding is pretty bad, but 5 bet at 5nl seems to be nutted unless we see otherwise? So 4 bet folding is better then 4betting to GII right? We save our selves money in long run?
 
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4betting there doesn't seem very good if we think his range is largely air, right? What are the likely outcomes when we 4bet: He folds basically all his air, 5bets his nutted hands with plan to GII, and calls with... what? He's likely quite polarized here, so what are you realistically wanting to have happen when you 4bet? It seems like you are looking for a call from a range you're ahead of, ie getting value, but I think a call is the least likely thing for him to do and he may not even have a call 4bet range in this spot at all.

Typically if we 4bet someone who is unlikely to call, and folding or gii are both -EV then we screwed up with the 4bet, cause it means the 4bet was -EV to begin with. (Granted, there is dead money to pick up, so it could still be +EV, but it will be more marginal if all we want him to do is call or fold. Plus if you think he's squeezing here a ton then pick a different type of hand to 4bet here -> don't waste AK.)
 
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4betting there doesn't seem very good if we think his range is largely air, right? What are the likely outcomes when we 4bet: He folds basically all his air, 5bets his nutted hands with plan to GII, and calls with... what? He's likely quite polarized here, so what are you realistically wanting to have happen when you 4bet? It seems like you are looking for a call from a range you're ahead of, ie getting value, but I think a call is the least likely thing for him to do and he may not even have a call 4bet range in this spot at all.

Typically if we 4bet someone who is unlikely to call, and folding or gii are both -EV then we screwed up with the 4bet, cause it means the 4bet was -EV to begin with. (Granted, there is dead money to pick up, so it could still be +EV, but it will be more marginal if all we want him to do is call or fold. Plus if you think he's squeezing here a ton then pick a different type of hand to 4bet here -> don't waste AK.)

This is true, but if I just flat his 3bet then I leave room for UTG to get involved and have no idea where im at in the hand, any ace or king on flop i pretty much cant get away from so doesnt 4betting here, allow me to possible pick up all dead money or at least have inniative in the hand?
I dont really know, I get a bit lost in these spots but im obv behind here so I dont really like calling an all in just because 4bet folding is bad?

Dont think any of that made sense?
 
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I dont like 4betting but I also dont like flatting here
 
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Let me put it this way. Your options are: Fold, Flat 3bet, 4bet.

Do you think flatting the 3bet will be +EV?

If yes, then you cannot fold.

Do you think 4betting is +EV?

If no, then flat the 3bet.

If 4betting is +EV, is it more so than flatting the 3bet?

If yes, then 4bet, but you have to understand why or how you are getting paid.
 
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Let me put it this way. Your options are: Fold, Flat 3bet, 4bet.

Do you think flatting the 3bet will be +EV?

If yes, then you cannot fold.

Do you think 4betting is +EV?

If no, then flat the 3bet.

If 4betting is +EV, is it more so than flatting the 3bet?

If yes, then 4bet, but you have to understand why or how you are getting paid.

True, Well at the time I thought 4betting was better, and would probably do the same if faced in the same spot right now, I felt I could get alot of folds in that spot, and im happy to collect the dead money with AK rather seeing a flop 3 way to be honest.

But flatting is probably better
 
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But if we flat and miss flop completely?
 
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Depends a lot on board texture and whether we end up going multiway or not. But most value is coming from when we hit.
 
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