TylerN
Kool-Aid & Frozen Pizza
Silver Level
But wat are we repping?
But wat are we repping?
youregoodmate
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Possibly BDF. I think it just looks majorly strong, bet/calling flop, calling turn and x/shoving river. Regs at 25nl wont think too deeply into how we've played it and theyre fairly nitty. We need folds like 40% of the time I think.
Dont get me wrong, I wouldnt normally shove, Im just throwing it out as an option to be argued.
TylerN
Kool-Aid & Frozen Pizza
Silver Level
welcome to 6m 
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (UTG): $23.70
MP: $22.58
CO: $48.89
BTN: $7.48
SB: $6.21
BB: $26.59
SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K:spade: K:club:
Hero raises to $0.60, MP raises to $2.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.00, MP raises to $22.58 and is all-in, Hero calls $17.58
Flop: ($45.46, 2 players) Q:heart: 4:diamond: T:spade:
Turn: ($45.46, 2 players) J:diamond:
River: ($45.46, 2 players) 8:spade:
Hero shows K:spade: K:club: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 17%, Flop 10%, Turn 14%)
MP shows A:spade: A:club: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 83%, Flop 90%, Turn 86%)
MP wins $43.19
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG: $19.93
MP: $22.90
CO: $21.03
BTN: $11.92
SB: $26.69
Hero (BB): $60.00
SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.20
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:
fold, fold, CO raises to $0.60, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, CO calls $1.40
Flop: ($4.10, 2 players) 7:heart: 4:heart: 2:club:
Hero bets $2.60, CO calls $2.60
Turn: ($9.30, 2 players) T:heart:
Hero bets $5.00, CO raises to $16.43 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.43
River: ($42.16, 2 players) K:heart:
CO shows Q:diamond: A:heart: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 28%, Flop 19%, Turn 27%)
Hero shows K:diamond: K:club: (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 72%, Flop 81%, Turn 73%)
CO wins $40.06
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: $25.94
UTG: $27.88
MP: $9.30
CO: $20.10
Hero (BTN): $20.34
SB: $26.79
SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K:heart: J:spade:
UTG raises to $0.40, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.70, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.30
Flop: ($3.70, 2 players) K:club: 2:heart: 6:heart:
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.40, UTG calls $2.40
Turn: ($8.50, 2 players) K:diamond:
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.00, UTG calls $5.00
River: ($18.50, 2 players) 5:heart:
UTG checks, Hero raises to $11.24 and is all-in, UTG calls $11.24
UTG shows Q:heart: J:heart: (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 29%, Flop 32%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows K:heart: J:spade: (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 71%, Flop 68%, Turn 82%)
UTG wins $38.94
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: $20.69
UTG: $21.14
Hero (CO): $21.08
BTN: $28.25
SB: $18.36
SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K:club: K:heart:
fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, SB raises to $2.00, fold, Hero calls $1.40
Flop: ($4.20, 2 players) Q:heart: J:heart: K:spade:
SB bets $3.40, Hero raises to $19.08 and is all-in, SB calls $12.96 and is all-in
Turn: ($36.92, 2 players) 6:heart:
River: ($36.92, 2 players) 4:club:
Hero shows K:club: K:heart: (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 67%, Flop 68%, Turn 23%)
SB shows 4:heart: A:heart: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 33%, Flop 32%, Turn 77%)
SB wins $35.08
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: $16.70
UTG: $4.90
MP: $21.95
CO: $18.93
BTN: $24.23
Hero (SB): $20.00
Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K:heart: A:spade:
fold, fold, CO raises to $0.80, BTN calls $0.80, Hero raises to $3.00, BB raises to $16.70 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls $13.70
Flop: ($35.00, 2 players) 5:spade: 7:diamond: J:club:
Turn: ($35.00, 2 players) T:heart:
River: ($35.00, 2 players) 9:diamond:
BB shows 7:heart: 7:club: (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 55%, Flop 98%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows K:heart: A:spade: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 45%, Flop 2%, Turn 9%)
BB wins $33.25
good thing it was 20nl
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (UTG): $23.70
MP: $22.58
CO: $48.89
BTN: $7.48
SB: $6.21
BB: $26.59
SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K:spade: K:club:
Hero raises to $0.60, MP raises to $2.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.00, MP raises to $22.58 and is all-in, Hero calls $17.58
Flop: ($45.46, 2 players) Q:heart: 4:diamond: T:spade:
Turn: ($45.46, 2 players) J:diamond:
River: ($45.46, 2 players) 8:spade:
Hero shows K:spade: K:club: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 17%, Flop 10%, Turn 14%)
MP shows A:spade: A:club: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 83%, Flop 90%, Turn 86%)
MP wins $43.19
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG: $19.93
MP: $22.90
CO: $21.03
BTN: $11.92
SB: $26.69
Hero (BB): $60.00
SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.20
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:
fold, fold, CO raises to $0.60, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, CO calls $1.40
Flop: ($4.10, 2 players) 7:heart: 4:heart: 2:club:
Hero bets $2.60, CO calls $2.60
Turn: ($9.30, 2 players) T:heart:
Hero bets $5.00, CO raises to $16.43 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.43
River: ($42.16, 2 players) K:heart:
CO shows Q:diamond: A:heart: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 28%, Flop 19%, Turn 27%)
Hero shows K:diamond: K:club: (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 72%, Flop 81%, Turn 73%)
CO wins $40.06
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: $25.94
UTG: $27.88
MP: $9.30
CO: $20.10
Hero (BTN): $20.34
SB: $26.79
SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K:heart: J:spade:
UTG raises to $0.40, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.70, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.30
Flop: ($3.70, 2 players) K:club: 2:heart: 6:heart:
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.40, UTG calls $2.40
Turn: ($8.50, 2 players) K:diamond:
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.00, UTG calls $5.00
River: ($18.50, 2 players) 5:heart:
UTG checks, Hero raises to $11.24 and is all-in, UTG calls $11.24
UTG shows Q:heart: J:heart: (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 29%, Flop 32%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows K:heart: J:spade: (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 71%, Flop 68%, Turn 82%)
UTG wins $38.94
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: $20.69
UTG: $21.14
Hero (CO): $21.08
BTN: $28.25
SB: $18.36
SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K:club: K:heart:
fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, SB raises to $2.00, fold, Hero calls $1.40
Flop: ($4.20, 2 players) Q:heart: J:heart: K:spade:
SB bets $3.40, Hero raises to $19.08 and is all-in, SB calls $12.96 and is all-in
Turn: ($36.92, 2 players) 6:heart:
River: ($36.92, 2 players) 4:club:
Hero shows K:club: K:heart: (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 67%, Flop 68%, Turn 23%)
SB shows 4:heart: A:heart: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 33%, Flop 32%, Turn 77%)
SB wins $35.08
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: $16.70
UTG: $4.90
MP: $21.95
CO: $18.93
BTN: $24.23
Hero (SB): $20.00
Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K:heart: A:spade:
fold, fold, CO raises to $0.80, BTN calls $0.80, Hero raises to $3.00, BB raises to $16.70 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls $13.70
Flop: ($35.00, 2 players) 5:spade: 7:diamond: J:club:
Turn: ($35.00, 2 players) T:heart:
River: ($35.00, 2 players) 9:diamond:
BB shows 7:heart: 7:club: (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 55%, Flop 98%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows K:heart: A:spade: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 45%, Flop 2%, Turn 9%)
BB wins $33.25
good thing it was 20nl
TylerN
Kool-Aid & Frozen Pizza
Silver Level
I actually marked that hand for review cause I thought it might of been a bit thin but in my haste of posting the hands I got distracted. It was vs a fish but on my phone now so not sure exactly wat stats were so will post later!
And yes 6m is more fun
TylerN
Kool-Aid & Frozen Pizza
Silver Level
I suck at math so bare with me here.
If the action went as follows:
EP opens to 3bb
Hero 3bets from CO to 9bb
(blinds fold) EP 4bets to 22bb
Hero shoves for 100bb
We need 28% equity when called to be +ev?
91 (wat we risk)/35.5 (wat we get )= 2.56 = 1/3.56
So 5bet shoving A4ss would be +ev vs a calling range of JJ+,AK?
If the action went as follows:
EP opens to 3bb
Hero 3bets from CO to 9bb
(blinds fold) EP 4bets to 22bb
Hero shoves for 100bb
We need 28% equity when called to be +ev?
91 (wat we risk)/35.5 (wat we get )= 2.56 = 1/3.56
So 5bet shoving A4ss would be +ev vs a calling range of JJ+,AK?
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Uhm... Basically none of what you wrote makes sense lol. Get on skype and I will answer all your questions. (Basically a ton of it has to do with if you assume 0% FE or not.)
TylerN
Kool-Aid & Frozen Pizza
Silver Level
yayyy for scourrge!!!
so he's away on lunch right now and left me to solve it by myself so here's wat i learned
EV = EV(fold) x (% he folds) + EV(call) x (% he calls)
assuming we have 30% equity vs calling range and 100bb stacks
(F)(35.5) + (1-F)[(113.5)(.30) - (91)(.70)]
0 = 35.5F +(1-F)(-29.65)
0 = 35.5F + 29.65F - 29.65
29.65 = 65.15F
F = .455
so we need 46% FE for this to be b/e
hows that look?
so he's away on lunch right now and left me to solve it by myself so here's wat i learned
EV = EV(fold) x (% he folds) + EV(call) x (% he calls)
assuming we have 30% equity vs calling range and 100bb stacks
(F)(35.5) + (1-F)[(113.5)(.30) - (91)(.70)]
0 = 35.5F +(1-F)(-29.65)
0 = 35.5F + 29.65F - 29.65
29.65 = 65.15F
F = .455
so we need 46% FE for this to be b/e
hows that look?
TylerN
Kool-Aid & Frozen Pizza
Silver Level
Looks solid - I get that we need 45.5% folds to be breakeven against a calling range that we have 30% equity against. Good work!
thanks again
ya im back into getting better now so more hands + general concepts i wanna talk about will be on the way :marchmell
long_bong
Legend
Silver Level
4 tabling 6max rush FTP and 4 tabling 6max STARS zoom 8 tabling is much more fun tho6max is more fun though eh
TylerN
Kool-Aid & Frozen Pizza
Silver Level
Sounds it!
Tyler, you now looking to justify 5bet jamming with **** all? I would say look at their 4bet, esp vsHero, and then make a more informed decision - why not tip things even further in your favour?
Ya don't worry I'm not going to be turning into a spewtard and just 5betting every chance I get
Just using that as an example to work on my math since ive struggled with it for far too long now and it's already helped me. Like I had no idea the actual numbers needed for it to b/e in the above hand and I will be including it in my game now
Expect me to post my hands when I'm up vs AA every time ldo
xdeucesx
Bar Master
Silver Level
not this thread, move along
Cafeman
Legend
Silver Level
What he said and http://bit.ly/12t96qN
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Nice resurrection.