HooDooKoo's Cash Game Thread

[Blobweird123]

Probs pretty close tbh. I think in theory i'd wanna lean toward folding, but I prob call off in-game as you did. Too many draws that he semi-bluffs this way. So yeah I prob call and put it down as a cooler. But idk, maybe it is spewy. Hopefully some others chime in.

 

[vinylspiros]

yea, looks like the turn is a sigh fold. I think stats are important here,so versus unknown only sets are really doing this usually and 9T. Draws too but its the guessing game so i guess fold by default is standard vs unknowns.

 

[Jblocher1]

In. Gl hoo

 

[Jblocher1]

Also, I might be the only one, but I kinda like a check back on turn.

 

[WVHillbilly]

Also, I might be the only one, but I kinda like a check back on turn.

Yeah, you're the only one.

It's our last chance to get value from his draws. Don't let the results of the ch/raise taint your thinking.

 

[vinylspiros]

Also, I might be the only one, but I kinda like a check back on turn.

b/f turn is way better than checking behind. Your not getting value out of your overpair which is good most of the time and also your letting him get a free street with no value,thus allowing villain to (possibly) suckout on you for free.


If river gets too ugly i wouldnt mind checking behind but if its a blank i think i might be firing river as well. ( assuming he flat the turn bet)

 

[Jblocher1]

b/f turn is way better than checking behind. Your not getting value out of your overpair which is good most of the time and also your letting him get a free street with no value,thus allowing villain to (possibly) suckout on you for free.


If river gets too ugly i wouldnt mind checking behind but if its a blank i think i might be firing river as well. ( assuming he flat the turn bet)

Yeah makes sense vinyl thanks.

 

[HooDooKoo]

Hand 21:

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

MP ($382.42)
Button ($107.66)
SB ($362.85)
BB ($102.45)
Hero (UTG) ($218.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with

,

Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, Button calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17)

,

,

(2 players)
Hero bets $10.50, Button calls $10.50

Turn: ($38)

(2 players)
Hero bets $23, Button calls $23

River: ($84)

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $67.16 (All-In), Hero calls $67.16

Total pot: $218.32 | Rake: $2

Results below:
Button had 10

, 9

(two pair, tens and sevens).
Hero had A

, J

(two pair, Aces and sevens).
Outcome: Hero won $216.32

IMO, my flop c-bet is pretty standard. I don't love the fact that my c-bet is called but I'm pleased that I don't get raised here. The turn is obviously a good card for me (unless villain holds 7x [unlikely] , TT, or a bigger ace [which, IMO, likely would have re-raised the button]), so I fire another barrel (a bit light, IMO) here. River isn't a good card for me, so I check --- but I think that this short stack would likely have raised me in position on the flop with a flush draw. I decide ahead of time to check and call if he shoves (risking him holding 7x or TT and hoping he holds Tx or a small-mid pair between). Obviously, the call paid off --- but, in the long term, is it a good call? I think against this short stack it is, but there are plenty of spots where I'd let it go. Thoughts?

 

[HooDooKoo]

Hand 22:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Hero (MP) ($200)
CO ($475.67)
Button ($204.65)
SB ($284.25)
BB ($292.45)
UTG ($244.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with

,

1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, Button calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17)

,

,

(2 players)
Hero bets $10.50, Button raises to $27, Hero raises to $66.25, Button calls $39.25

Turn: ($149.50)

(2 players)
Hero bets $126.75 (All-In), Button calls $126.75

River: ($403)

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $403 | Rake: $3

Results below:
Button had 3

, 3

(three of a kind, threes).
Hero had J

, Q

(two pair, Queens and Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $400

Given the button flat, I was not afraid of QQ or 99 and thought that AQ was also unlikely. I thought KQ was possible, but also wondered about JT and 33. I figured that 33 would shove the flop after my-reraise, so settled on JT after no flop shove. The turn gives me a big hand and villain's turn shove there is consistent with how a fish would play JT, so I call and miss my four-outer on the river (not that I deserved to hit there). I obviously played a big pot here with a marginal hand, and paid for it. Given the fact that, once again, I'm 99% sure the villain was a fish, how bad do we think my overplay was? Thanks.

 

[vinylspiros]

Hand 21: I would play it exactly the same way. He has a lot of Tx, mid PP's ,maybe Ax,89..(hes prolly 3betting better aces).. (less likely for him to have a 7).

river is obviously a check/call. (you allow him to turn his entire range into a bluff ,esp with this river and our line).

If he's deeper,i might find a fold on river.

 

[HooDooKoo]

Hand 23:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

SB ($176.80)
BB ($273.90)
UTG ($649.40)
Hero (MP) ($391.04)
CO ($123.60)
Button ($214.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with

,

1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, Button calls $7, SB calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: ($23)

,

,

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $13.50, Button calls $13.50, SB calls $13.50

Turn: ($63.50)

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $63.50, 1 fold, SB raises to $156.30 (All-In), Hero calls $92.80

River: ($376.10)

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $376.10 | Rake: $3

Results below:
SB had 6

, 4

(straight, eight high).
Hero had 5

, 5

(three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: SB won $373.10

I'm not even sure what to say about this hand. I think I was overtired and a bit tilty by this point. I also just didn't expect 46o to call here preflop. I think my flop bet was a bit light and I don't think I needed to be too afraid of the turn 8. Having said that, it's hard to lay down a set --- especially when villain could have 87, Q7, Q8, and several pair and flush draw combos. Should I have been able to find a fold here?

 

[vinylspiros]

Hand 22: He played this hand kind of tricky. when he flats your flop 4bet,he makes us think hes drawing or not too strong.

When turn hits, what range did you put him on when you shoved?


You mention in your description that he shoves turn but in reality ,you did.

So why are we shoving turn? What are we getting paid off from? like 9T or Q9? its kind of a yucky spot.

 

[HooDooKoo]

Hand 24:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (4 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

UTG ($293.80)
Button ($506.55)
Hero (SB) ($510)
BB ($155.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

,

1 fold, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $11.50, 1 fold, Button calls $7.50

Flop: ($25)

,

,

(2 players)
Hero bets $14.50, Button calls $14.50

Turn: ($54)

(2 players)
Hero bets $31, Button calls $31

River: ($116)

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $80, Hero calls $80

Total pot: $276 | Rake: $2

Results below:
Button had Q

, J

(full house, Jacks over Queens).
Hero didn't show J

, A

(three of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $274

Given the weak button open, an isolation re-raise is a given (IMO) in this spot. I have to believe that my hand is good on the flop. Villain's flat on the flop gives me little info and I decide that my hand is too strong to check on the turn. Another call from villain makes me think I'm behind (Qx) or facing an underpair (88 or 99), and I plan to check the river --- then the J hits and makes me think I'm good. Given the board runout, I'm not sure how I get away from this hand. How about you all?

 

[HooDooKoo]

Hand 25:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

UTG ($58.10)
MP ($1,173.83)
Button ($132.25)
SB ($238.75)
Hero (BB) ($278.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

,

2 folds, Button raises to $4, SB calls $3, Hero raises to $16, Button calls $12, SB calls $12

Flop: ($48)

,

,

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $32, Button raises to $116.25 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $84.25

Turn: ($280.50)

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($280.50)

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $280.50 | Rake: $2

Results below:
Button had 7

, K

(flush, King high).
Hero had 9

, 9

(three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Button won $278.50


IMO, this flop call is pretty standard. Sure, once in a while villain shows up with a made flush. Much more often, however, he has a naked flush draw, straight and flush draws, or a flush draw and a pair --- none of which really scare me. Anyone question this play?

 

[HooDooKoo]

Hand 26:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

CO ($176)
Button ($178.54)
Hero (SB) ($178)
BB ($804.50)
UTG ($387.20)
MP ($394.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

,

4 folds, Hero raises to $8, BB calls $6

Flop: ($16)

,

,

(2 players)
Hero bets $10, BB calls $10

Turn: ($36)

(2 players)
Hero bets $24, BB calls $24

River: ($84)

(2 players)
Hero bets $44, BB calls $44

Total pot: $172 | Rake: $3

Results below:
Hero had 10

, Q

, J

, 10

, 7

(flush, Queen high).
BB had 7

, 8

(one pair, sevens).
Outcome: BB won $169

A little background about this hand. To anyone paying any sort of attention, I am an obvious TAG. Villain is a lagtard in the God Seat. Flop and turn bets are pretty standard for a TAG like me extracting value. I hadn't three-barreled a missed draw at any point and thought I could get away with it here --- even against a big stack fish. He opened his time back and literally took max time before calling. I maintain that, against me, it's a bad call --- but in this case it was a winning call. Anyone strenuously object to this play for an obvious TAG?

 

[vinylspiros]

Hand 23# I am personally Never EVER finding a fold here. Well played, cooler if you ask me.

 

[HooDooKoo]

Hand 22: He played this hand kind of tricky. when he flats your flop 4bet,he makes us think hes drawing or not too strong.

When turn hits, what range did you put him on when you shoved?


You mention in your description that he shoves turn but in reality ,you did.

So why are we shoving turn? What are we getting paid off from? like 9T or Q9? its kind of a yucky spot.

You're right, Spiros. Thanks for the clarification.

I figured that shoving gets max value from better Qs, lesser two pair, and shuts down any draws --- and I had decided that he had JT. As I said, I don't think I played this hand well at all.

 

[HooDooKoo]

Hand 27:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hero (Button) ($200)
SB ($291.08)
BB ($194.62)
UTG ($133.25)
MP ($287.45)
CO ($49.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with

,

2 folds, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, BB calls $7, 1 fold

Flop: ($21)

,

,

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14.50, BB calls $14.50

Turn: ($50)

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $33, BB calls $33

River: ($116)

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $116 | Rake: $3

Results below:
Hero didn't show Q

, K

(one pair, Queens).
BB had A

, A

(one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won $113

Fortunately, the fishy villain completely misplayed his hand. I was obviously suspicious on the river (which is why I checked), but I can't slow down here before the river, right?

 

[WVHillbilly]

Way too many hands again. Give us 2 or 3 max. Just too many to comment on and you're doing the thread a disservice posting too many at once.

 

[HooDooKoo]

Hand 28:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Button ($100)
SB ($144.40)
Hero (BB) ($312.70)
UTG ($410.55)
MP ($429.09)
CO ($221.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

,

2 folds, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, SB calls $1, Hero checks

Flop: ($8)

,

,

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, CO calls $8, 1 fold, SB calls $8

Turn: ($32)

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, 1 fold, SB raises to $42, Hero folds

Total pot: $64 | Rake: $3


Results below:
SB had 6

, 4

.
Outcome: SB won $61

In case you haven't figured it out yet, this is the kind of hand it was. Anyone see any reason to play this hand past the turn? Also, I led post-flop trying to thin the field because I didn't know if anyone would have anything to bet (which would allow me to check-raise). Anyone have a strong preference for leading vs. check-raising? Note that, in this case, it wouldn't have mattered since the SB had my straight and the flush draw, so I wasn't making him fold no matter what.

 

[vinylspiros]

Hand #28 with the 46 off. Im leading here almost 100% of the time.Esp 4 way.

Dont wanna check-raise in case its checked around.

Board is really ugly and could get uglier. We wanna inflate the pot while we are(most probably ahead). Nice fold on turn. Well played IMO.

 

[HooDooKoo]

Way too many hands again. Give us 2 or 3 max. Just too many to comment on and you're doing the thread a disservice posting too many at once.

OK. I'll try and cut it down. I played 3,300 hands Saturday, though, and have questions about more than just 3 of them.

Thanks.

-HooDooKoo

 

[Matt Vaughan]

You might want to slow down hands a little tbh. I know you want every spot looked at, but some of these seem relatively standard. If you go over a spot AFTER playing it and still don't know, then post it.

Hand 20: KK, looks like a fist-pump bet/fold and be happy he lets you get away so easily.

Hand 21: AJ, I flop bet is standard, turn bet is fine imo though I check/call sometimes too. As played, I don't see a x/c on the river being super profitable. Like he shouldn't really be value betting worse here ever, and what air does he have aside from maybe 98? I also don't really discount better Ax either. You're UTG. AQ isn't 3betting for value from the button imo, and AK probably doesn't 100% of the time either.

Hand 22: QJs, flop is absurdly overplaying your hand tbh. That's before seeing results fwiw.

 

[DaReKa]

Hand 24:

Given the weak button open, an isolation re-raise is a given (IMO) in this spot. I have to believe that my hand is good on the flop. Villain's flat on the flop gives me little info and I decide that my hand is too strong to check on the turn. Another call from villain makes me think I'm behind (Qx) or facing an underpair (88 or 99), and I plan to check the river --- then the J hits and makes me think I'm good. Given the board runout, I'm not sure how I get away from this hand. How about you all?

Why do you check/call the river as opposed to bet/fold or bet/call?

Hand 26:

A little background about this hand. To anyone paying any sort of attention, I am an obvious TAG. Villain is a lagtard in the God Seat. Flop and turn bets are pretty standard for a TAG like me extracting value. I hadn't three-barreled a missed draw at any point and thought I could get away with it here --- even against a big stack fish. He opened his time back and literally took max time before calling. I maintain that, against me, it's a bad call --- but in this case it was a winning call. Anyone strenuously object to this play for an obvious TAG?

I think betting is better than giving up (probably not by much), it's just a bad spot because the board is dry enough and SB opens are wide enough that it's hard to believe you have something good enough to value bet 3 streets, so it looks like an OK spot for a light call. Maybe he had some kind of timing tell as well?

Hand 28:


In case you haven't figured it out yet, this is the kind of hand it was. Anyone see any reason to play this hand past the turn? Also, I led post-flop trying to thin the field because I didn't know if anyone would have anything to bet (which would allow me to check-raise). Anyone have a strong preference for leading vs. check-raising? Note that, in this case, it wouldn't have mattered since the SB had my straight and the flush draw, so I wasn't making him fold no matter what.

I prefer leading here by a lot, I think a lot of no pair hands will call that wouldn't bet, and all the stuff that you really want to check raise will raise your bet, except for maybe two pair. I wouldn't bet pot though, it cuts down on some weaker hands that would call.

 

[Mr Sandbag]

HooDooKoo, please limit the hands you post to one or two per day, and try posting them both in one post at the end of the day's session. I'd love to offer feedback, but by the time I was able to look at this thread, there were tons of hands and subsequent feedback posted already. I don't think I (or anyone else) want to sort through all these posts to construct a meaningful one of my own. It's all just too much.