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duggs said:
Ax i 3bet, but Kx Qx just makes no sense to me, but we have beaten that horse to death already.
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Could you please explain why you think these hands differ?


I have always struggled to understand why Ax is considered so good 3bet bluff hand given it has so much equity, but surely not against calling 3bet calling range when A hits. Don't we miss all EV value of the hand when 3betting on trusting fold equity?
 
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After years of only being able to play speed poker at stars, and ONLY with play money, I am thrilled to find that SB/BOL has the same game.

They call it BOOST, and you find it under the Games button.


The player pool is still small, under a 100 players at this point, but it moves along as fast as Zoom does.


If anything can get me excited about poker these days it will be that I can finally play speed poker with real money.:D


Results thru 4 sessions is -1 bi.


Only 3 games are showing available, but only 1 has any action; 6 max $10 bi. Min bi is $4, and until I get my feet wet enough, I'm getting in cheap, mainly to clear a deposit.
 
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duggs said:
Sorry been very absent as i had to get some applications in by their deadlines, and iv had a pretty awful flu for 2 weeks so that kinda ****ed things up a bit!

played first session post holiday today, was a bit worried about being rusty but people were just donating since im a station. only played 1.2k hands but won 6bi, that puts my online roll at like 400 so ill start mixing in 16nl at some point soon.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 237.1 BB (VPIP: 17.14, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 36)
SB: 212.6 BB (VPIP: 21.63, PFR: 18.07, 3Bet Preflop: 8.86, Hands: 403)
Hero (BB): 138.2 BB
UTG: 101 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP: 117 BB (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 31.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: 142.4 BB (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 34)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♦ K♥


fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN raises to 25 BB, Hero raises to 138.2 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 113.2 BB


Flop: (276.9 BB, 2 players) 9♦ J♦ 3♣


Turn: (276.9 BB, 2 players) 2♦


River: (276.9 BB, 2 players) 7♥


Hero shows K♦ K♥ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 17%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows A♥ A♦ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 83%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins 264.4 BB


feels overwhelmingly standard but not a nice hand to begin with.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 174.3 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (SB): 222.2 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.95, PFR: 13.16, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
UTG: 120.3 BB (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: 116.6 BB (VPIP: 18.87, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 106)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.81, PFR: 13.86, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 103)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8♣ 7♣


fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BTN calls 6.5 BB


Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 6♣ Q♥ A♦
Hero bets 9 BB, BTN calls 9 BB


Turn: (37 BB, 2 players) 9♦
Hero bets 17 BB, BTN calls 17 BB


River: (71 BB, 2 players) 8♠
Hero bets 38 BB, BTN calls 38 BB


Hero shows 8♣ 7♣ (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 38%, Flop 10%, Turn 16%)
BTN shows Q♠ T♠ (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 62%, Flop 90%, Turn 84%)
BTN wins 140.4 BB



def didnt get this one through, tried going smaller as i would with my value range there, not sure if horrible or not.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 249.6 BB (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 18.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 50)
SB: 100.1 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 27)
Hero (BB): 197 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 40.70, PFR: 26.74, 3Bet Preflop: 24.00, Hands: 86)
MP: 62.1 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 80.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
CO: 384.4 BB (VPIP: 54.17, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 75)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♥ A♠


fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, CO calls 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB


Flop: (36.5 BB, 3 players) T♥ 5♠ 9♠
Hero bets 21 BB, CO calls 21 BB, BTN calls 21 BB


Turn: (99.5 BB, 3 players) 5♥
Hero bets 36 BB, CO calls 36 BB, fold


River: (171.5 BB, 2 players) 5♣
Hero bets 128 BB and is all-in, CO calls 128 BB


Hero shows A♥ A♠ (Full House, Fives full of Aces)
(Pre 83%, Flop 77%, Turn 77%)
CO shows K♥ 9♥ (Full House, Fives full of Nines)
(Pre 17%, Flop 23%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins 412.5 BB


Reg just has to be isoing 99/TT v a whale here right? because his flop call is mildly concerning but whale is too juicy to not go after. turn feels like a b/f at the time but now i just dont see what reg can have?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 120.1 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (SB): 409.7 BB
BB: 238.7 BB (VPIP: 29.60, PFR: 25.60, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 125)
UTG: 197.2 BB (VPIP: 18.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 63)
MP: 83.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO: 60.6 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ 2♠


UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, UTG calls 7 BB


Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 6♣ 7♥ 2♣
Hero bets 12.8 BB, UTG calls 12.8 BB


Turn: (46.6 BB, 2 players) 2♦
Hero bets 28.4 BB, UTG raises to 72 BB, Hero calls 43.6 BB


River: (190.6 BB, 2 players) Q♥
Hero checks, UTG bets 102.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 102.4 BB


UTG shows 4♠ 3♠ (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 41%, Flop 37%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows A♠ 2♠ (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 59%, Flop 63%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 380.4 BB



Think this is a cool bluff by him and a dec hand to shove river with. ballsy as ****. obv i have tippy top of my range here.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 103 BB
SB: 205.7 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 42)
BB: 147.8 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
UTG: 150.9 BB (VPIP: 24.02, PFR: 16.20, 3Bet Preflop: 6.02, Hands: 186)
MP: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
CO: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 42.68, PFR: 28.05, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 82)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ Q♣


UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, UTG raises to 30 BB, fold, Hero calls 18 BB


Flop: (64.5 BB, 2 players) 3♣ J♦ 2♥
UTG bets 85 BB, fold


UTG wins 61.6 BB



too tight? i was on the fence but feel like i have JJ here and KK/AA so its close to the bottom
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Jeez dude people online are sticky man. Like "what's that stuck to the bottom of my shoe?"


"Oh it's dude with Q-10o calling 3 barrels with 2nd pair meh kicker."


8-7 I think I give up after turn on that one, he's unlikely to fold IMO.


Love the AA hand, it's hilarious the V calls down with 2nd pair, K-9o.


I gotta try and play some online, sometime. The game is whacky man.
 
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Man rough -10bi sess, alot of it was just runbad i feel, and coolers where im just too high up in my range to fold and run into the nuts. ran into AA bvb 3 times which didnt go so well.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 105 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
Hero (SB): 273.9 BB
BB: 276.4 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 149.4 BB (VPIP: 19.86, PFR: 7.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 148)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.30, PFR: 21.21, 3Bet Preflop: 17.65, Hands: 33)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.74, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 138)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:heart: A:spade:


fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB


Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 9:spade: 2:spade: T:spade:
Hero checks, BB bets 17.2 BB, Hero calls 17.2 BB


Turn: (52.4 BB, 2 players) Q:spade:
Hero checks, BB bets 250.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 247.7 BB and is all-in


River: (547.8 BB, 2 players) T:diamond:


Hero shows J:heart: A:spade: (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 30%, Turn 77%)
BB shows 9:diamond: 9:club: (Full House, Nines full of Tens)
(Pre 56%, Flop 70%, Turn 23%)
BB wins 532.8 BB



for a second thought he was going to show the nuts but wow, whatevs he is obv terrible.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 74.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 128.2 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 166.3 BB (VPIP: 12.33, PFR: 6.85, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 74)
Hero (UTG): 207.3 BB
MP: 120.9 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 112 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:heart: A:club:


Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB


Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) 8:heart: A:diamond: 7:heart:
SB bets 11.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 11.5 BB, fold


Turn: (35 BB, 2 players) A:heart:
SB bets 33.4 BB, Hero calls 33.4 BB


River: (101.8 BB, 2 players) 2:heart:
SB bets 80.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 80.3 BB


SB shows 7:spade: 7:club: (Full House, Sevens full of Aces)
(Pre 55%, Flop 94%, Turn 84%)
Hero shows K:heart: A:club: (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 45%, Flop 6%, Turn 16%)
SB wins 250.6 BB



this one kinda sucks, folding flop seems tough, and every street i pick up enough equity to call but feel like im losing river somewhat often.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 119.6 BB (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 60)
SB: 235.9 BB (VPIP: 17.72, PFR: 13.38, 3Bet Preflop: 8.93, Hands: 160)
BB: 202.7 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (UTG): 117.7 BB
MP: 19.8 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: 158.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5:spade: 6:spade:


Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 5 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB


Flop: (15.5 BB, 3 players) 7:spade: 5:heart: 6:heart:
BB bets 14 BB, Hero raises to 36 BB, MP calls 14.8 BB and is all-in, BB raises to 197.7 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 76.7 BB and is all-in


Turn: (255.7 BB, 3 players) J:club:


River: (255.7 BB, 3 players) 3:heart:


BB shows 6:diamond: 4:spade: (Straight, Seven High)


Main Pot [59.9 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 25%, Turn 19%)
Side Pot#1 [195.8 BB]: (Pre 42%, Flop 33%, Turn 24%)


Hero shows 5:spade: 6:spade: (Two Pair, Sixes and Fives)


Main Pot [59.9 BB]: (Pre 28%, Flop 42%, Turn 55%)
Side Pot#1 [195.8 BB]: (Pre 58%, Flop 67%, Turn 76%)


MP shows 8:club: 6:club: (One Pair, Sixes)


Main Pot [59.9 BB]: (Pre 53%, Flop 33%, Turn 26%)


BB wins 244.2 BB



pre is shit but whatevs


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 337.6 BB
SB: 102.7 BB (VPIP: 28.36, PFR: 23.88, 3Bet Preflop: 16.39, Hands: 137)
BB: 106.8 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
UTG: 168.1 BB (VPIP: 22.95, PFR: 13.11, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 63)
MP: 230.2 BB (VPIP: 21.50, PFR: 18.69, 3Bet Preflop: 10.64, Hands: 110)
CO: 77.6 BB (VPIP: 32.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:spade: Q:heart:


fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, SB calls 6.5 BB, fold, fold


Flop: (17 BB, 2 players) Q:club: 5:spade: 7:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 10.3 BB, SB calls 10.3 BB


Turn: (37.6 BB, 2 players) 6:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 14.7 BB, SB raises to 85.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 70.7 BB


River: (208.4 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond:


SB shows A:diamond: Q:spade: (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
(Pre 74%, Flop 84%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows K:spade: Q:heart: (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
(Pre 26%, Flop 16%, Turn 25%)
SB wins 199 BB


just a weird spot, cant really fold but hate calling.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 103.7 BB (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 15)
SB: 134.2 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: 116.9 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: 111.7 BB (VPIP: 26.25, PFR: 21.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 82)
Hero (MP): 100.1 BB
CO: 80.5 BB (VPIP: 23.27, PFR: 17.61, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 163)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:heart: A:spade:


fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7 BB


Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) A:diamond: 4:diamond: 9:heart:
BB checks, Hero bets 12.5 BB, BB raises to 106.9 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 77.6 BB and is all-in


Turn: (200.7 BB, 2 players) T:spade:


River: (200.7 BB, 2 players) K:spade:


BB shows K:diamond: A:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 75%, Flop 88%, Turn 93%)
Hero shows Q:heart: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 25%, Flop 12%, Turn 7%)
BB wins 191.7 BB



I dunno whether this should be a fold or not, just a weird line.
 
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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 145.9 BB (VPIP: 28.95, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 38)
SB: 185.6 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
BB: 231.9 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
UTG: 93 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 40.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 121.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:diamond: A:heart:


fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold


Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) A:club: A:diamond: 8:heart:
Hero bets 4.7 BB, CO raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 5.3 BB


Turn: (27.5 BB, 2 players) 4:heart:
Hero checks, CO bets 13.2 BB, Hero calls 13.2 BB


River: (53.9 BB, 2 players) 9:club:
Hero checks, CO bets 95 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 73.8 BB and is all-in


CO shows 4:spade: A:spade: (Full House, Aces full of Fours)
(Pre 33%, Flop 21%, Turn 88%)
Hero shows J:diamond: A:heart: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 67%, Flop 79%, Turn 13%)
CO wins 192.4 BB


felt pretty std
 
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duggs said:
Sorry been very absent as i had to get some applications in by their deadlines, and iv had a pretty awful flu for 2 weeks so that kinda ****ed things up a bit!

played first session post holiday today, was a bit worried about being rusty but people were just donating since im a station. only played 1.2k hands but won 6bi, that puts my online roll at like 400 so ill start mixing in 16nl at some point soon.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 237.1 BB (VPIP: 17.14, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 36)
SB: 212.6 BB (VPIP: 21.63, PFR: 18.07, 3Bet Preflop: 8.86, Hands: 403)
Hero (BB): 138.2 BB
UTG: 101 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP: 117 BB (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 31.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: 142.4 BB (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 34)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K[emoji815]: K[emoji813]


fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN raises to 25 BB, Hero raises to 138.2 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 113.2 BB


Flop: (276.9 BB, 2 players) 9[emoji815]: J[emoji815]: 3[emoji814]:


Turn: (276.9 BB, 2 players) 2[emoji815]:


River: (276.9 BB, 2 players) 7[emoji813]


Hero shows K[emoji815]: K[emoji813] (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 17%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows A[emoji813] A[emoji815]: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 83%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins 264.4 BB


feels overwhelmingly standard but not a nice hand to begin with.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 174.3 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (SB): 222.2 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.95, PFR: 13.16, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
UTG: 120.3 BB (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: 116.6 BB (VPIP: 18.87, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 106)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.81, PFR: 13.86, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 103)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8[emoji814]: 7[emoji814]:


fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BTN calls 6.5 BB


Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 6[emoji814]: Q[emoji813] A[emoji815]:
Hero bets 9 BB, BTN calls 9 BB


Turn: (37 BB, 2 players) 9[emoji815]:
Hero bets 17 BB, BTN calls 17 BB


River: (71 BB, 2 players) 8[emoji812]:
Hero bets 38 BB, BTN calls 38 BB


Hero shows 8[emoji814]: 7[emoji814]: (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 38%, Flop 10%, Turn 16%)
BTN shows Q[emoji812]: T[emoji812]: (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 62%, Flop 90%, Turn 84%)
BTN wins 140.4 BB



def didnt get this one through, tried going smaller as i would with my value range there, not sure if horrible or not.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 249.6 BB (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 18.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 50)
SB: 100.1 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 27)
Hero (BB): 197 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 40.70, PFR: 26.74, 3Bet Preflop: 24.00, Hands: 86)
MP: 62.1 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 80.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
CO: 384.4 BB (VPIP: 54.17, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 75)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A[emoji813] A[emoji812]:


fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, CO calls 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB


Flop: (36.5 BB, 3 players) T[emoji813] 5[emoji812]: 9[emoji812]:
Hero bets 21 BB, CO calls 21 BB, BTN calls 21 BB


Turn: (99.5 BB, 3 players) 5[emoji813]
Hero bets 36 BB, CO calls 36 BB, fold


River: (171.5 BB, 2 players) 5[emoji814]:
Hero bets 128 BB and is all-in, CO calls 128 BB


Hero shows A[emoji813] A[emoji812]: (Full House, Fives full of Aces)
(Pre 83%, Flop 77%, Turn 77%)
CO shows K[emoji813] 9[emoji813] (Full House, Fives full of Nines)
(Pre 17%, Flop 23%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins 412.5 BB


Reg just has to be isoing 99/TT v a whale here right? because his flop call is mildly concerning but whale is too juicy to not go after. turn feels like a b/f at the time but now i just dont see what reg can have?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 120.1 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (SB): 409.7 BB
BB: 238.7 BB (VPIP: 29.60, PFR: 25.60, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 125)
UTG: 197.2 BB (VPIP: 18.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 63)
MP: 83.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO: 60.6 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A[emoji812]: 2[emoji812]:


UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, UTG calls 7 BB


Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 6[emoji814]: 7[emoji813] 2[emoji814]:
Hero bets 12.8 BB, UTG calls 12.8 BB


Turn: (46.6 BB, 2 players) 2[emoji815]:
Hero bets 28.4 BB, UTG raises to 72 BB, Hero calls 43.6 BB


River: (190.6 BB, 2 players) Q[emoji813]
Hero checks, UTG bets 102.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 102.4 BB


UTG shows 4[emoji812]: 3[emoji812]: (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 41%, Flop 37%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows A[emoji812]: 2[emoji812]: (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 59%, Flop 63%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 380.4 BB



Think this is a cool bluff by him and a dec hand to shove river with. ballsy as ****. obv i have tippy top of my range here.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 103 BB
SB: 205.7 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 42)
BB: 147.8 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
UTG: 150.9 BB (VPIP: 24.02, PFR: 16.20, 3Bet Preflop: 6.02, Hands: 186)
MP: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
CO: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 42.68, PFR: 28.05, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 82)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q[emoji813] Q[emoji814]:


UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, UTG raises to 30 BB, fold, Hero calls 18 BB


Flop: (64.5 BB, 2 players) 3[emoji814]: J[emoji815]: 2[emoji813]
UTG bets 85 BB, fold


UTG wins 61.6 BB



too tight? i was on the fence but feel like i have JJ here and KK/AA so its close to the bottom
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duggs said:
Man rough -10bi sess, alot of it was just runbad i feel, and coolers where im just too high up in my range to fold and run into the nuts. ran into AA bvb 3 times which didnt go so well.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 105 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
Hero (SB): 273.9 BB
BB: 276.4 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 149.4 BB (VPIP: 19.86, PFR: 7.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 148)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.30, PFR: 21.21, 3Bet Preflop: 17.65, Hands: 33)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.74, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 138)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♥ A♠


fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB


Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 9♠ 2♠ T♠
Hero checks, BB bets 17.2 BB, Hero calls 17.2 BB


Turn: (52.4 BB, 2 players) Q♠
Hero checks, BB bets 250.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 247.7 BB and is all-in


River: (547.8 BB, 2 players) T♦


Hero shows J♥ A♠ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 30%, Turn 77%)
BB shows 9♦ 9♣ (Full House, Nines full of Tens)
(Pre 56%, Flop 70%, Turn 23%)
BB wins 532.8 BB



for a second thought he was going to show the nuts but wow, whatevs he is obv terrible.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 74.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 128.2 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 166.3 BB (VPIP: 12.33, PFR: 6.85, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 74)
Hero (UTG): 207.3 BB
MP: 120.9 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 112 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♥ A♣


Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB


Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) 8♥ A♦ 7♥
SB bets 11.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 11.5 BB, fold


Turn: (35 BB, 2 players) A♥
SB bets 33.4 BB, Hero calls 33.4 BB


River: (101.8 BB, 2 players) 2♥
SB bets 80.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 80.3 BB


SB shows 7♠ 7♣ (Full House, Sevens full of Aces)
(Pre 55%, Flop 94%, Turn 84%)
Hero shows K♥ A♣ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 45%, Flop 6%, Turn 16%)
SB wins 250.6 BB



this one kinda sucks, folding flop seems tough, and every street i pick up enough equity to call but feel like im losing river somewhat often.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 119.6 BB (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 60)
SB: 235.9 BB (VPIP: 17.72, PFR: 13.38, 3Bet Preflop: 8.93, Hands: 160)
BB: 202.7 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (UTG): 117.7 BB
MP: 19.8 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: 158.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5♠ 6♠


Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 5 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB


Flop: (15.5 BB, 3 players) 7♠ 5♥ 6♥
BB bets 14 BB, Hero raises to 36 BB, MP calls 14.8 BB and is all-in, BB raises to 197.7 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 76.7 BB and is all-in


Turn: (255.7 BB, 3 players) J♣


River: (255.7 BB, 3 players) 3♥


BB shows 6♦ 4♠ (Straight, Seven High)


Main Pot [59.9 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 25%, Turn 19%)
Side Pot#1 [195.8 BB]: (Pre 42%, Flop 33%, Turn 24%)


Hero shows 5♠ 6♠ (Two Pair, Sixes and Fives)


Main Pot [59.9 BB]: (Pre 28%, Flop 42%, Turn 55%)
Side Pot#1 [195.8 BB]: (Pre 58%, Flop 67%, Turn 76%)


MP shows 8♣ 6♣ (One Pair, Sixes)


Main Pot [59.9 BB]: (Pre 53%, Flop 33%, Turn 26%)


BB wins 244.2 BB



pre is shit but whatevs


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 337.6 BB
SB: 102.7 BB (VPIP: 28.36, PFR: 23.88, 3Bet Preflop: 16.39, Hands: 137)
BB: 106.8 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
UTG: 168.1 BB (VPIP: 22.95, PFR: 13.11, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 63)
MP: 230.2 BB (VPIP: 21.50, PFR: 18.69, 3Bet Preflop: 10.64, Hands: 110)
CO: 77.6 BB (VPIP: 32.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♠ Q♥


fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, SB calls 6.5 BB, fold, fold


Flop: (17 BB, 2 players) Q♣ 5♠ 7♠
SB checks, Hero bets 10.3 BB, SB calls 10.3 BB


Turn: (37.6 BB, 2 players) 6♠
SB checks, Hero bets 14.7 BB, SB raises to 85.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 70.7 BB


River: (208.4 BB, 2 players) 7♦


SB shows A♦ Q♠ (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
(Pre 74%, Flop 84%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows K♠ Q♥ (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
(Pre 26%, Flop 16%, Turn 25%)
SB wins 199 BB


just a weird spot, cant really fold but hate calling.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 103.7 BB (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 15)
SB: 134.2 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: 116.9 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: 111.7 BB (VPIP: 26.25, PFR: 21.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 82)
Hero (MP): 100.1 BB
CO: 80.5 BB (VPIP: 23.27, PFR: 17.61, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 163)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ A♠


fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7 BB


Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) A♦ 4♦ 9♥
BB checks, Hero bets 12.5 BB, BB raises to 106.9 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 77.6 BB and is all-in


Turn: (200.7 BB, 2 players) T♠


River: (200.7 BB, 2 players) K♠


BB shows K♦ A♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 75%, Flop 88%, Turn 93%)
Hero shows Q♥ A♠ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 25%, Flop 12%, Turn 7%)
BB wins 191.7 BB



I dunno whether this should be a fold or not, just a weird line.
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The A-Q hand, the last one, gotta find a fold OTF IMO, and pre is meh also. But, I see the other shit people are doing so maybe I'm wrong. But I def feel like flop is a fold.


As for the KQ hand OTB, I think flatting pre is ok as well. Once again, I would think we are beat here OTT, and I would consider the pot odds.


6-5s well played post, but too loose UTG.




Obv, these are just my thoughts, and I will be the first one to tell you I am out of touch with the online world.....
 
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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 145.9 BB (VPIP: 28.95, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 38)
SB: 185.6 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
BB: 231.9 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
UTG: 93 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 40.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 121.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♦ A♥


fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold


Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) A♣ A♦ 8♥
Hero bets 4.7 BB, CO raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 5.3 BB


Turn: (27.5 BB, 2 players) 4♥
Hero checks, CO bets 13.2 BB, Hero calls 13.2 BB


River: (53.9 BB, 2 players) 9♣
Hero checks, CO bets 95 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 73.8 BB and is all-in


CO shows 4♠ A♠ (Full House, Aces full of Fours)
(Pre 33%, Flop 21%, Turn 88%)
Hero shows J♦ A♥ (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 67%, Flop 79%, Turn 13%)
CO wins 192.4 BB


felt pretty std
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I prob check flop here.... But wtf do I know this dude is raising you with 4 kicker? Just drills the turn? Jeez what in the world is he thinking?



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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 101.1 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 48.4 BB
BB: 101 BB (VPIP: 24.65, PFR: 19.07, 3Bet Preflop: 9.64, Hands: 219)
UTG: 137.2 BB (VPIP: 18.84, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 71)
Hero (MP): 151.3 BB
CO: 151.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: Q:club:


fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold


Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 6:club: A:spade: K:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB


Turn: (15.5 BB, 2 players) K:spade:
Hero checks, BTN checks


River: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
Hero bets 30 BB, BTN raises to 94.1 BB and is all-in, fold


BTN wins 72.1 BB
 
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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 105.2 BB
SB: 147.7 BB (VPIP: 18.31, PFR: 16.90, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 73)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.63, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
UTG: 103.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 109.1 BB (VPIP: 22.35, PFR: 13.10, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 89)
CO: 110.5 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 40)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: 5:diamond:


UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB


Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond: 6:heart: K:diamond:
UTG checks, Hero bets 11.9 BB, UTG calls 11.9 BB


Turn: (43.3 BB, 2 players) 3:spade:
UTG checks, Hero bets 17 BB, UTG raises to 37 BB, Hero calls 20 BB


River: (117.3 BB, 2 players) A:spade:
UTG bets 45.5 BB and is all-in, fold


UTG wins 112 BB


hows the turn call?
 
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Mate your advanced bluffing skills mean you are putting too many bluffs into their ranges and stacking off too light as a result.At this level the vast majority of players are developers or nits who don't have the skill or resolve for the big bluffs. Therefore the big bets you are facing are much more value heavy. You needed to find some more folds with 1 and 2 pair hands when lots of chippies are going in.
 
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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 119.2 BB (VPIP: 17.93, PFR: 14.54, 3Bet Preflop: 5.95, Hands: 631)
SB: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 17.91, PFR: 11.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 70)
BB: 108.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG: 61.8 BB
MP: 224.3 BB (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
Hero (CO): 122.4 BB


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:club: J:club:


UTG calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 16 BB, UTG calls 15 BB, Hero calls 11 BB


Flop: (48.5 BB, 3 players) T:heart: 9:club: J:heart:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks


Turn: (48.5 BB, 3 players) A:club:
BB bets 31 BB, fold, Hero calls 31 BB


River: (110.5 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:
BB bets 20 BB, Hero raises to 75.4 BB and is all-in, fold


Hero wins 143.7 BB
 
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duggs said:
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 105.2 BB
SB: 147.7 BB (VPIP: 18.31, PFR: 16.90, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 73)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.63, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
UTG: 103.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 109.1 BB (VPIP: 22.35, PFR: 13.10, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 89)
CO: 110.5 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 40)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♦ 5♦


UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB


Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 6♦ 6♥ K♦
UTG checks, Hero bets 11.9 BB, UTG calls 11.9 BB


Turn: (43.3 BB, 2 players) 3♠
UTG checks, Hero bets 17 BB, UTG raises to 37 BB, Hero calls 20 BB


River: (117.3 BB, 2 players) A♠
UTG bets 45.5 BB and is all-in, fold


UTG wins 112 BB


hows the turn call?
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I think I like a check back on this turn, and we can do things on some rivers as well.... his range has to be narrow(er) since he called 3b, called flop.


However, as I type this, I am thinking maybe he does peel with 99-QQ and maybe he folds the turn to 2nd barrel. Real time you know the player better than I do obv.


I still probably check back the turn though.


As played, I think the call is fine, he has another 50-ish BB back, so I think the odds are there, and I don't mind it, but a turn check opens us up to this exact play from V, and that's why I like a check better.




But, I think I don't barrel enough, and perhaps I could learn a bit from this exact hand. I'd like to some of your thoughts about this and other barrel spots as well.
 
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duggs said:
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 101.1 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 48.4 BB
BB: 101 BB (VPIP: 24.65, PFR: 19.07, 3Bet Preflop: 9.64, Hands: 219)
UTG: 137.2 BB (VPIP: 18.84, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 71)
Hero (MP): 151.3 BB
CO: 151.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♣ Q♣


fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold


Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 6♣ A♠ K♥
Hero checks, BTN bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB


Turn: (15.5 BB, 2 players) K♠
Hero checks, BTN checks


River: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 4♦
Hero bets 30 BB, BTN raises to 94.1 BB and is all-in, fold


BTN wins 72.1 BB
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Was this a tough laydown OTR? Thoughts? I don't know if I find a fold here. I just sat here thinking about it for a while.


He flats you pre, bets flop, checks back turn, and then jams river? I really don't think it's AK, but could be, 6-6 I would expect a bet on the turn as well, and your hand is going to look like a river stab to him perhaps. The only real hand I can see that beats us is 4-4 that just stabbed flop, gave up, and then rivered the boat.


I would have called here prob, but I wasn't there at that table. I would call without some soul read I think.
 
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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 105.2 BB
SB: 147.7 BB (VPIP: 18.31, PFR: 16.90, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 73)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.63, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
UTG: 103.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 109.1 BB (VPIP: 22.35, PFR: 13.10, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 89)
CO: 110.5 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 40)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♦ 5♦


UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB


Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 6♦ 6♥ K♦
UTG checks, Hero bets 11.9 BB, UTG calls 11.9 BB


Turn: (43.3 BB, 2 players) 3♠
UTG checks, Hero bets 17 BB, UTG raises to 37 BB, Hero calls 20 BB


River: (117.3 BB, 2 players) A♠
UTG bets 45.5 BB and is all-in, fold


UTG wins 112 BB


hows the turn call?
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I don’t mind turn call, it’s probably about break even, but after betting so small OTT how hero can fold river? Hero is losing to {66, A6, 67, 68s, AK, 33, AA} 1+4+8+2+6+3+1 or something like that.
 
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Do you know how to fold?;)

I notice you are agro, but when I get agro like you seem to love doing, I lose fast. What do you think about the small ball concept of poker?:confused:
 
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braveslice said:
Could you please explain why you think these hands differ?


I have always struggled to understand why Ax is considered so good 3bet bluff hand given it has so much equity, but surely not against calling 3bet calling range when A hits. Don't we miss all EV value of the hand when 3betting on trusting fold equity?
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1/ It blocks the most combos, (There are by definition more Ax combos of value than anything else)


2/ A2-5s have the most nut potential, and can also makestraights Kx cannot.


3/ we have been equity and better chances to realise it.


4/ when we flop top pair there are not overcards.
 
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Beanfacekilla said:
Was this a tough laydown OTR? Thoughts? I don't know if I find a fold here. I just sat here thinking about it for a while.


He flats you pre, bets flop, checks back turn, and then jams river? I really don't think it's AK, but could be, 6-6 I would expect a bet on the turn as well, and your hand is going to look like a river stab to him perhaps. The only real hand I can see that beats us is 4-4 that just stabbed flop, gave up, and then rivered the boat.


I would have called here prob, but I wasn't there at that table. I would call without some soul read I think.
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It kinda hurt, but i 2x pot it so not sure if you missed that. Ill be doing that polarised and this is the worst hand that ill 2x here. so it makes sense to fold it and call with boats.

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I don’t mind turn call, it’s probably about break even, but after betting so small OTT how hero can fold river? Hero is losing to {66, A6, 67, 68s, AK, 33, AA} 1+4+8+2+6+3+1 or something like that.
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Cool, find me enough combos we beat that play like this and play river like this.

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Do you know how to fold?;)

I notice you are agro, but when I get agro like you seem to love doing, I lose fast. What do you think about the small ball concept of poker?:confused:
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Not sure if this is trolling but ill reply anyway. I obviously know how to fold. Small ball is a stupid crutch to justify passive play. its extremely hard to profit by cold calling and you open yourself up to getting squeezed far too often.
 
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duggs said:
Not sure if this is trolling but ill reply anyway. I obviously know how to fold. Small ball is a stupid crutch to justify passive play. its extremely hard to profit by cold calling and you open yourself up to getting squeezed far too often.
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I don't troll, at least not intentionally. After years of being unable to play speed poker, we finally have a speed game at SB/BOL, and via the CC freerolls, I have a working BR at both.

I'm looking to improve a long neglected part of my game. So far I'm +, but it is a slow process. I don't have enough real money speed poker hands to get a real feel for my game. I do have a million play money hands at Stars Zoom, but that only accounts for so much.

I'll agree I let myself get squeezed more than my fair share of the time, but I counter that with not losing huge amounts fast, and when I know the villain is overly agro, I can win huge amounts fast because they see me as passive.

I would rather they see me a passively tricky. In order for that to happen I need to establish a better 3bet 4bet image.

Believe it or not, last week was the first time I EVER cold bluffed with 72. I stole the pot twice, and lost once. It was an ability I never cultivated.

So, please bear with me if I ask about stuff you think I already know. I don't, else I wouldn't ask.
 
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Asking me if i know how to fold when literally scrolling up would show multiple fairly tight laydowns cannot be construed as anything other than trolling.
 
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duggs said:
Cool, find me enough combos we beat that play like this and play river like this.
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Our though process differs OTR. I would assign him almost the same range on the river than turn which contains lots of bluffs given paired board and small bet, and all hands he decided are good enough to value bet OTT. It’s true also that most of his bluffs got there with rivered A, but if he decided to plash OTT A is great card to continue bluffing, given most players would put hero to some sort of under pair.

Is this enough, dunno. Realistic range beating hero could be something like {66, AK, A6s, 67s, 33} , lets say close enough of 20 combos. To call river hero needs 28%. That would mean 6 combos needed to break even. With this logic It can’t be far?

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Do you know how to fold?
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I'm actually currently saying he folds too much =)
 
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1/ It blocks the most combos, (There are by definition more Ax combos of value than anything else)

2/ A2-5s have the most nut potential, and can also makestraights Kx cannot.

3/ we have been equity and better chances to realise it.

4/ when we flop top pair there are not overcards.
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Button opens 40% {22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q6s+, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o}

BB has A3s, EQ vs Button 49%, equity needed for call around 30% direct odds to call with good marginal.

Given typical-widish calling range in 2NL zoom {55+, A7s+, KJs+, QJs, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, ATo+, KQo} when called we play OOP, large pot, with equity around 40%.

It just does not seem righ. If A flopped, around 18% of the time, we have great equity edge 60%, but if we both flop A our hand is trash. It's not hard to imagine that those times both have A takes most of the profit away from the situations where only hero has A.

3/ explains partly why 3betting is better, but given the raw equity against opening range isn’t this a bit overkill?
 
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braveslice said:
Button opens 40% {22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q6s+, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o}

BB has A3s, EQ vs Button 49%, equity needed for call around 30% direct odds to call with good marginal.

Given typical-widish calling range in 2NL zoom {55+, A7s+, KJs+, QJs, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, ATo+, KQo} when called we play OOP, large pot, with equity around 40%.

It just does not seem righ. If A flopped, around 18% of the time, we have great equity edge 60%, but if we both flop A our hand is trash. It's not hard to imagine that those times both have A takes most of the profit away from the situations where only hero has A.

3/ explains partly why 3betting is better, but given the raw equity against opening range isn’t this a bit overkill?
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This is moving the goal posts on me a bit... you asked why Ax is so much better to 3bet than Kx and Qx i said why. I never said it was an auto 3bet v all opponents. Nor did i say that you can 3bet it for value against opponents. BB is also somewhat of a cheeky case because its the only position you cant get squeeze from.
 
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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 149.4 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (BB): 164.5 BB
UTG: 143.7 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.19, PFR: 16.35, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 107)
CO: 113.2 BB (VPIP: 36.84, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: A:spade:


fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, CO calls 7 BB


Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 4:heart: 2:club: K:club:
Hero bets 12.5 BB, CO calls 12.5 BB


Turn: (45.5 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:
Hero bets 28.3 BB, CO calls 28.3 BB


River: (102.1 BB, 2 players) 6:heart:
Hero bets 86.8 BB, CO calls 62.4 BB and is all-in


Hero shows A:diamond: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Twos)
(Pre 80%, Flop 52%, Turn 75%)
CO shows 3:club: 5:club: (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 20%, Flop 48%, Turn 25%)
CO wins 216.7 BB




PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 158.6 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 35.00, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 20)
SB: 51.8 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 45)
Hero (BB): 121 BB
UTG: 107.5 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP: 63.1 BB (VPIP: 22.41, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 60)
CO: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 23.72, PFR: 14.74, 3Bet Preflop: 2.82, Hands: 161)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:heart: A:club:


fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.2 BB


Flop: (4.9 BB, 2 players) 8:club: T:club: 7:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.6 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, BTN calls 10.4 BB


Turn: (32.9 BB, 2 players) K:heart:
Hero bets 18 BB, BTN calls 18 BB


River: (68.9 BB, 2 players) 6:club:
Hero bets 42.8 BB, BTN raises to 124.4 BB and is all-in,



Can i fold here?
 
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