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Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 221.6 BB (VPIP: 22.03, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 59)
SB: 211.9 BB
BB: 60 BB (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 18.42, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
UTG: 103 BB (VPIP: 19.91, PFR: 13.89, 3Bet Preflop: 4.12, Hands: 221)
Hero (MP): 238.5 BB
CO: 134.7 BB (VPIP: 48.15, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5[emoji815]: 5[emoji814]:


fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 11 BB, fold, BB calls 10 BB, Hero calls 8 BB


Flop: (33.5 BB, 3 players) 4[emoji813] 4[emoji812]: 5[emoji812]:
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks


Turn: (33.5 BB, 3 players) 2[emoji814]:
BB bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB, BTN calls 11 BB


River: (66.5 BB, 3 players) 3[emoji814]:
BB bets 38 BB and is all-in, Hero?


2// piss poor hand selection for it, but fun river to bluff on


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 316.2 BB
SB: 296.7 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 146.7 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
UTG: 321.2 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 17.54, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 59)
MP: 52.2 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 127.3 BB


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q[emoji815]: T[emoji815]:


fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 6 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB


Flop: (13 BB, 2 players) 4[emoji815]: Q[emoji813] 7[emoji815]:
SB bets 6.8 BB, Hero calls 6.8 BB


Turn: (26.6 BB, 2 players) J[emoji812]:
SB bets 21.6 BB, Hero calls 21.6 BB


River: (69.8 BB, 2 players) 3[emoji812]:
SB bets 72 BB, Hero raises to 281.8 BB and is all-in,



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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: 161.3 BB (VPIP: 21.71, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.61, Hands: 179)
BB: 200 BB (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 26)
UTG: 97.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 66.67, Hands: 5)
MP: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 19.12, PFR: 15.20, 3Bet Preflop: 7.29, Hands: 256)
Hero (CO): 176.4 BB


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T[emoji813] 9[emoji812]:


fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB


Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) 8[emoji812]: 7[emoji813] J[emoji814]:
BB bets 9.9 BB, Hero raises to 27 BB, BB raises to 51 BB, Hero raises to 167.4 BB and is all-in, BB calls 116.4 BB



sizing check.
Hand 1 seems like a troll question to ask: Hero? It's 100% raise/shove in that spot.
 
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Hand 1 seems like a troll question to ask: Hero? It's 100% raise/shove in that spot.



Well, firstly i thought turn was an intwresting decision. And river is a decision between calling and raising. I believe both have merit
 
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Well, firstly i thought turn was an intwresting decision. And river is a decision between calling and raising. I believe both have merit

Absolutely room to discuss variation here.
I like the turn call, I'd want to give both players the cheap chance of improving to a strong second best hand.
River though I'd raise here as there is no side pot with the button. If you call and he shoves his hand trying to fold you out he will ordinarily have to beat the BB to make any money out of the hand. If the btn is medium strength I'd expect him to just call or fold. If he's strong he's going to come into the pot against your raise anyway.
I think if you call he is less likely to just call because he has to beat two players.
 
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Please explain why you are bluffing on that river & what ranges are you targeting?
And what's the value shove range here on the shove you are representing?
 
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QdTd I wouldn't consider shoving over such a pot committing river bet. Off his limited stats I'm reading tending to passive. The whiffed diamond draw is more eye catching than a low straight draw getting there. No way I'd expect enough folds from his overpairs and tptk hands to make this a long term profitable shove.
 
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Please explain why you are bluffing on that river & what ranges are you targeting?
And what's the value shove range here on the shove you are representing?

I think he bets thinly for value, I think his range is thicker at the upper end but capped in comparison to mine (I have QQ, JJ, 56s all the time, where as he has JJ occassionally and never QQ). I just think regs b/f too often on rivers for deep stacks. I think i can make him fold JJ and down sometimes and basically always fold KK+. Villain virtually never has 56, that said. this is a terrible combination to pick to bluff with as in game i figured he would triple QQ and blocking that helps. but in hindsight thats clearly wrong. bluffing without diamonds in my hand and a 5/6 or J or even 7 would all be preferable but id have to think about which hands that fit that criteria actually make it to the river before clarifying further.
 
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QdTd I wouldn't consider shoving over such a pot committing river bet. Off his limited stats I'm reading tending to passive. The whiffed diamond draw is more eye catching than a low straight draw getting there. No way I'd expect enough folds from his overpairs and tptk hands to make this a long term profitable shove.

I would be absolutely shocked if AA called this river shove. You would never in a million years call with AA or AQ here.
 
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Absolutely room to discuss variation here.
I like the turn call, I'd want to give both players the cheap chance of improving to a strong second best hand.
River though I'd raise here as there is no side pot with the button. If you call and he shoves his hand trying to fold you out he will ordinarily have to beat the BB to make any money out of the hand. If the btn is medium strength I'd expect him to just call or fold. If he's strong he's going to come into the pot against your raise anyway.
I think if you call he is less likely to just call because he has to beat two players.

given the action and the board texture, the only hands that can really call behind us are Ax for the stupid end of the straight. I think he overcalls expecting a chop fairly often with that. The real question is is there a sizing we can raise that he still calls fairly often?
 
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I would be absolutely shocked if AA called this river shove. You would never in a million years call with AA or AQ here.

Looks like we might have to disagree here then. I wouldn't be shocked at all, I run into plenty of stations at 10nl.
He's in for 100bb already, add in your extra 200bb and he's calling 200 to win 400. There are enough whiffs and too few value hands here I'd expect you to get hero called too often.
 
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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 221.6 BB (VPIP: 22.03, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 59)
SB: 211.9 BB
BB: 60 BB (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 18.42, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
UTG: 103 BB (VPIP: 19.91, PFR: 13.89, 3Bet Preflop: 4.12, Hands: 221)
Hero (MP): 238.5 BB
CO: 134.7 BB (VPIP: 48.15, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5


fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 11 BB, fold, BB calls 10 BB, Hero calls 8 BB


Flop: (33.5 BB, 3 players) 4 4 5
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks


Turn: (33.5 BB, 3 players) 2
BB bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB, BTN calls 11 BB


River: (66.5 BB, 3 players) 3
BB bets 38 BB and is all-in, Hero?


2// piss poor hand selection for it, but fun river to bluff on


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 316.2 BB
SB: 296.7 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 146.7 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
UTG: 321.2 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 17.54, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 59)
MP: 52.2 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 127.3 BB


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q T


fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 6 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB


Flop: (13 BB, 2 players) 4 Q 7
SB bets 6.8 BB, Hero calls 6.8 BB


Turn: (26.6 BB, 2 players) J
SB bets 21.6 BB, Hero calls 21.6 BB


River: (69.8 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 72 BB, Hero raises to 281.8 BB and is all-in,



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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: 161.3 BB (VPIP: 21.71, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.61, Hands: 179)
BB: 200 BB (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 26)
UTG: 97.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 66.67, Hands: 5)
MP: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 19.12, PFR: 15.20, 3Bet Preflop: 7.29, Hands: 256)
Hero (CO): 176.4 BB


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 9


fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB


Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) 8 7 J
BB bets 9.9 BB, Hero raises to 27 BB, BB raises to 51 BB, Hero raises to 167.4 BB and is all-in, BB calls 116.4 BB



sizing check.


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BTN 3-bets wide so I see why you call pre easily
Nice flop standard check.
We dont care about the shortstack fish now.
Shortstack fish is most likely bluffing from what I have seen on micros, these jokers see it get check around and start bluffing with any two
BTN most likely on a draw but he is also getting a good price to call the turn 3-way so he can easily call with any two overcards. Cant really say what is his 3-bet range but its quite wide so I see a lot of Ax suited there.
Flush draws missed on flop and you are not going to get any value just calling, just jam it, if he has overpair he is calling you sometimes, if he has smaller boat he is also calling you 100% and if he has a busted draw he is not going to bluff there if you call because the shortstack is already in so just rejam it. Nice hand

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Dont minbet pre (missclick?)
Interesting, I like to bluff on more scary cards than this one. It makes some sense ofc but I think the level you are playing is too low for these sick bluffs. Good bluff nice hand, I just dont bluff on these hands this low in stakes.
Did he call?

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Generally I told you I overfold to 3-bets on these limits just to exploit most of the Vs tendency to be 3-betting only the very strongest hands, but this one has pretty big 3-bet stat so I can see a call sometimes here although its a bit too loose for me.
Nice flop, sometimes I just call that 51BB raise on the flop but given he is betting really strong he probably isnt folding anyways so the jam is good. NH
 
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Looks like we might have to disagree here then. I wouldn't be shocked at all, I run into plenty of stations at 10nl.
He's in for 100bb already, add in your extra 200bb and he's calling 200 to win 400. There are enough whiffs and too few value hands here I'd expect you to get hero called too often.

but you personally, are you calling river with AA? because im very sceptical. Obv some sets are going to station and he will turn up with 4 combos of 45 sometimes

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BTN 3-bets wide so I see why you call pre easily
Nice flop standard check.
We dont care about the shortstack fish now.
Shortstack fish is most likely bluffing from what I have seen on micros, these jokers see it get check around and start bluffing with any two
BTN most likely on a draw but he is also getting a good price to call the turn 3-way so he can easily call with any two overcards. Cant really say what is his 3-bet range but its quite wide so I see a lot of Ax suited there.
Flush draws missed on flop and you are not going to get any value just calling, just jam it, if he has overpair he is calling you sometimes, if he has smaller boat he is also calling you 100% and if he has a busted draw he is not going to bluff there if you call because the shortstack is already in so just rejam it. Nice hand


he 3bet so he never has a smaller pair and plays this line, he will have AK/AQ very often. the question is what sizing will he call it with. It could justifiably look like im trying to fold a chop if i jam but the risk/reward for him is very minimal there. I opted for a sizing in between but v good opponents i think its so hard to get called here as I have by far the strongest range on this river (of me and the player behind that is) I have way more 6x in my pre range than him.

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Dont minbet pre (missclick?)
Interesting, I like to bluff on more scary cards than this one. It makes some sense ofc but I think the level you are playing is too low for these sick bluffs. Good bluff nice hand, I just dont bluff on these hands this low in stakes.
Did he call?


i min from the button. na he tank folded, wrote in chat that he has a good hand but not the nuts. guessing he had something decent cause he wasted 70 seconds of timebank on it.

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Generally I told you I overfold to 3-bets on these limits just to exploit most of the Vs tendency to be 3-betting only the very strongest hands, but this one has pretty big 3-bet stat so I can see a call sometimes here although its a bit too loose for me.
Nice flop, sometimes I just call that 51BB raise on the flop but given he is betting really strong he probably isnt folding anyways so the jam is good. NH


That and this is a flop both draws and sets want to get it in asap so may aswell get it in before turn deadens the action.
 
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Posting a couple of hands guys, iv included results in the last spoiler as i often forget to include them and i know it irritates me when people forget to follow up. but no peeking before you post. In unrelated news im back at 40bi, but since im posting this im due to drop between 6 and 12 in my next session.




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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 playersHand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 179 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (SB): 145 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 156.9 BB (VPIP: 18.82, PFR: 16.18, 3Bet Preflop: 4.69, Hands: 345)
MP: 402.4 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 13.92, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 82)
CO: 107.6 BB (VPIP: 21.25, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 81)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J T


fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, BB calls 8 BB, CO calls 6.5 BB


Flop: (27 BB, 3 players) 2 6 T
Hero bets 13 BB, BB calls 13 BB, fold


Turn: (53 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 16 BB, BB raises to 78 BB and is all-in, Hero???



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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 352.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: 106 BB (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 10.34, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
BB: 101 BB (VPIP: 8.70, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 47)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.28, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
MP: 103.7 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
Hero (CO): 185.9 BB


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K


fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 22 BB, BB calls 13 BB


Flop: (44.5 BB, 2 players) 3 6 K
BB checks, Hero checks


Turn: (44.5 BB, 2 players) A
BB bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB


River: (84.5 BB, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero?


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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 117.5 BB (VPIP: 21.64, PFR: 17.16, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 691)
SB: 71.6 BB
BB: 86 BB (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
UTG: 165.8 BB (VPIP: 17.54, PFR: 12.28, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 57)
Hero (MP): 152.6 BB
CO: 132.4 BB (VPIP: 30.93, PFR: 23.71, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 101)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q


fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 6 BB


Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 8 3 Q
Hero checks, BTN bets 9.3 BB, Hero calls 9.3 BB


Turn: (38.1 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BTN checks


River: (38.1 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero????


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PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.29, PFR: 24.14, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 94)
Hero (SB): 227.8 BB
BB: 328.8 BB (VPIP: 20.86, PFR: 14.72, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 173)
UTG: 110.7 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 109 BB (VPIP: 16.13, PFR: 16.13, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 31)
CO: 101 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 18.57, 3Bet Preflop: 9.72, Hands: 358)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q


fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, BB calls 9 BB, BTN calls 7 BB


Flop: (30 BB, 3 players) J 4 7
Hero bets 16 BB, fold, BTN raises to 90 BB and is all-in, Hero???




Results of hands, only look after posting. And ill know if you look first...
###4 Hero calls 62 BB


River: (209 BB, 2 players) 3


Hero shows J T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 85%, Turn 93%)
BB shows K 5 (High Card, King)
(Pre 51%, Flop 15%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins 199.6 BB


###5
Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 30%, Flop 28%, Turn 25%)
BB shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 70%, Flop 72%, Turn 75%)
BB wins 193.4 BB



###6
Hero bets 17 BB, fold


Hero wins 36.4 BB
 
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Most of his range that calls you on the flop is drawing to a flush or already made a flush I think, other than that it might be some sets, but thats not so probable I would say.
When he raises you on turn no way you are winning that hand, what hands are pure bluffs that would he shove there?
I think most of his bluffs there contain big heart, so he still has nice equity if called, or he has a stronger hand. You just got second pair with meh kicker and I cant see anything but fold there. If I was him and had lets say Ah Qx or Ah Tx I would also shove the turn because it feels like a good spot.

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I would put villain most likely on some A with a broadway card because he has VPIP of only 8.7 which is super nitty ( http://prntscr.com/ikhl79 ). I think he doesnt trap with the flush enough to check the river. You even have the A of spades in your hand and there is the K of spades on the board, which, given his vpip, only leaves the QJ suited possibility, unlikely given the check on the river. Just bet a small amount and hope he calls. No way he has a flush there Im 100% sure. S just valuebet and hope for a call. No sets possible, you block AA and KK and 33 66 55 is miles from his pre flop 3-bet range. You win that hand 98% of the time, just valuebet, something like half the pot, just to ensure a call. Maybe even smaller like 35 BBs. Make yourself look weak to induce calls. We block most of his calling range here but still he is a nit and might just call a 4-bet with QQ JJ TT. You win this hand.

6#
I would say hero overbets the river, to make it look like a bluff, but then, what are you getting called by... I guess he has AK and just missed the board completely so cant really agree with myself to overbet because he doesnt call you. But bet either way. Hard to say how much. you are getting raised by better so you obv fold. The striaght is not an option given the 3-bet pre. He might still have AQ and just be scared of the diamonds so just bet. I think you are getting a lot of folds there, mostly from weaker hands like AK and some lower pocket pairs. Quite difficult spot for me to decide what to do, I just bet and see what happens. I would say we dont want a call here because... He cal still have AA and KK in his range and he might be just scared of the flush. You have the K of diamonds so just bet it.

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I call but sometimes we are going to face some flopped sets... Because most of the time when I play, and V flops a set on a FD board he just jams it right away... But I call anyways you cant possibly fold QQ here can you?
 
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Uhm okay so my opinions on the hand were different than the outcome. The 4th hand, obviously he is a retard because he doesnt even have the heart, if it was K of hearts then yeah maybe I could justify a shove there but that is just super retarded move by him.
Anyways, how do you justify your call there? What hand do you put him on?

Number Five yeah, sad, we block KK so he has only one combo, but what ever. That happens sometimes.

Number 6 - I still think he has AK, NH

Number 7 - where is the results bro? :) :icon_sant
 
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Not a fan of leading this flop. I watched one of Ben Sulsky's RIO videos where he mentioned it's a mistake to lead in FD boards since there are a lot of suited combos in BTN's range.
I would've check, check floded turn but you must have had a pinpoint read to make that call on the turn.
 
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Not a fan of leading this flop. I watched one of Ben Sulsky's RIO videos where he mentioned it's a mistake to lead in FD boards since there are a lot of suited combos in BTN's range.
I would've check, check floded turn but you must have had a pinpoint read to make that call on the turn.

im not leading, im cbetting.
 
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will get back to everyone and post a few more hands tomorrow after work, sorry i didnt get to all the comments today
 
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what I meant

I have no idea about this hand, at all, but what would you say then:

Would you then check / fold flop?

If you would check / call, wouldn't villain most likely barrel (turn or river, both made hands as well as draws), so by having check / call plan on the flop would mean to have 2 street call plan?
 
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Correct play?? Would you check this or cbet on flop??

partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 106.8 BB (VPIP: 20.54, PFR: 16.74, 3Bet Preflop: 6.34, Hands: 913)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.37, PFR: 14.34, 3Bet Preflop: 3.35, Hands: 551)
BB: 68.4 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 86 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (MP): 102.4 BB
CO: 226.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kd Ks
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 28.4 BB, CO calls 18 BB

Flop : (58.2 BB, 2 players) 3s Kc 2h
Hero checks, CO bets 41.4 BB, Hero calls 41.4 BB

Turn : (141 BB, 2 players) 6d
Hero checks, CO bets 34.8 BB,
 
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I have no idea about this hand, at all, but what would you say then:

Would you then check / fold flop?

If you would check / call, wouldn't villain most likely barrel (turn or river, both made hands as well as draws), so by having check / call plan on the flop would mean to have 2 street call plan?

Situational for me. This is a multiway flop which completely turn me off of continuing.
I just said what Sulsky said in one of his videos. And I see merit to it.
 
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what I meant

ok well i wasnt sure if you misread the action thats why i clarified. I have an extremely vulnerable hand on a board i gain value both from being ahead of a calling range, and folding out hands with good equity.
 
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Most of his range that calls you on the flop is drawing to a flush or already made a flush I think, other than that it might be some sets, but thats not so probable I would say.
When he raises you on turn no way you are winning that hand, what hands are pure bluffs that would he shove there?
I think most of his bluffs there contain big heart, so he still has nice equity if called, or he has a stronger hand. You just got second pair with meh kicker and I cant see anything but fold there. If I was him and had lets say Ah Qx or Ah Tx I would also shove the turn because it feels like a good spot.

I dunno why you would shove AQh thats like a nut call down hand, literally 3 uncomfortable rivers in the deck. I bayesian wise if he is cold calling then he either has a tight range or he is a fish, if he is a fish then this play is much more consistent with spazzyness than a value line.


#5
I would put villain most likely on some A with a broadway card because he has VPIP of only 8.7 which is super nitty ( http://prntscr.com/ikhl79 ). I think he doesnt trap with the flush enough to check the river. You even have the A of spades in your hand and there is the K of spades on the board, which, given his vpip, only leaves the QJ suited possibility, unlikely given the check on the river. Just bet a small amount and hope he calls. No way he has a flush there Im 100% sure. S just valuebet and hope for a call. No sets possible, you block AA and KK and 33 66 55 is miles from his pre flop 3-bet range. You win that hand 98% of the time, just valuebet, something like half the pot, just to ensure a call. Maybe even smaller like 35 BBs. Make yourself look weak to induce calls. We block most of his calling range here but still he is a nit and might just call a 4-bet with QQ JJ TT. You win this hand.


Because of how nitty he is, his 4betting range is extremely tight. its basically AA/KK/QQ/AQ maybe. turn line i felt like im usually freerolling but AA/KK often check flop. river i expected them to bet 100% but im just not sure that the razor thing value from calls i get justifies the risk. I very very nearly checked back and was quite annoyed with myself.

6#
I would say hero overbets the river, to make it look like a bluff, but then, what are you getting called by... I guess he has AK and just missed the board completely so cant really agree with myself to overbet because he doesnt call you. But bet either way. Hard to say how much. you are getting raised by better so you obv fold. The striaght is not an option given the 3-bet pre. He might still have AQ and just be scared of the diamonds so just bet. I think you are getting a lot of folds there, mostly from weaker hands like AK and some lower pocket pairs. Quite difficult spot for me to decide what to do, I just bet and see what happens. I would say we dont want a call here because... He cal still have AA and KK in his range and he might be just scared of the flush. You have the K of diamonds so just bet it.


If we dont want a call shouldnt be betting.

7#
I call but sometimes we are going to face some flopped sets... Because most of the time when I play, and V flops a set on a FD board he just jams it right away... But I call anyways you cant possibly fold QQ here can you?


Na pretty straightforwad call, just sucks that he got the right price preflop with 44/77. i believe he had A9o for a total airball if memory serves.

Uhm okay so my opinions on the hand were different than the outcome. The 4th hand, obviously he is a retard because he doesnt even have the heart, if it was K of hearts then yeah maybe I could justify a shove there but that is just super retarded move by him.
Anyways, how do you justify your call there? What hand do you put him on?

Number Five yeah, sad, we block KK so he has only one combo, but what ever. That happens sometimes.

Number 6 - I still think he has AK, NH

Number 7 - where is the results bro? :) :icon_sant

see above

#4
Not a fan of leading this flop. I watched one of Ben Sulsky's RIO videos where he mentioned it's a mistake to lead in FD boards since there are a lot of suited combos in BTN's range.
I would've check, check floded turn but you must have had a pinpoint read to make that call on the turn.


This is good reasoning for not having a wide cbetting range. however, this is not an argument against betting this hand in particular. for example i can make very good arguments for why its got to 3bet BB v SB, but they wont apply equally to J8s and KTs.


In this case we have a had that benefit from betting both by way of value, and protection. I feel like this should be in our betting range, even if we are checking alot of our range.
 
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##8
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 232.2 BB (VPIP: 20.75, PFR: 16.98, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 54)
SB: 161 BB (VPIP: 15.22, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.31, PFR: 17.36, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 125)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.08, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 79)
CO: 95.7 BB


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:diamond: J:diamond:


UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB


Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond: 3:heart: J:club:
Hero checks, UTG bets 2.7 BB, Hero calls 2.7 BB


Turn: (10.9 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:
Hero checks, UTG bets 8.7 BB, Hero calls 8.7 BB


River: (28.3 BB, 2 players) Q:club:
Hero checks, UTG bets 24.5 BB, Hero raises to 86.1 BB and is all-in,


results


UTG calls 61.6 BB and is all-in


Hero shows 9:diamond: J:diamond: (One Pair, Jacks)


UTG shows T:spade: 9:spade: (Straight, Queen High)


UTG wins 191.5 BB


##9
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 61.1 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 23.68, 3Bet Preflop: 28.57, Hands: 38)
Hero (SB): 155.6 BB
BB: 194.3 BB (VPIP: 20.18, PFR: 13.16, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 116)
UTG: 241.4 BB (VPIP: 19.76, PFR: 12.65, 3Bet Preflop: 1.59, Hands: 172)
MP: 204.2 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 13.95, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 44)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.52, PFR: 16.33, 3Bet Preflop: 5.32, Hands: 257)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: K:diamond:


fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, MP calls 7 BB


Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 2:club: J:diamond: T:heart:
Hero checks, MP bets 11.1 BB, Hero calls 11.1 BB


Turn: (43.2 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
Hero checks, MP bets 28 BB, Hero calls 28 BB


River: (99.2 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
Hero checks,


MP checks


Hero shows K:club: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Kings and Twos)
(Pre 80%, Flop 29%, Turn 18%)
MP mucks J:spade: T:spade: (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens)
(Pre 20%, Flop 71%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 94.7 BB


###9
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 415.2 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.06, PFR: 12.39, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 221)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
UTG: 107.6 BB (VPIP: 16.24, PFR: 13.71, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 202)
MP: 48 BB (VPIP: 17.58, PFR: 1.10, 3Bet Preflop: 1.35, Hands: 185)
CO: 334.1 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 19.32, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 90)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:diamond: T:heart:


fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 6 BB


Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 6:spade: 2:heart: 8:club:
BB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB


Turn: (36.5 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
BB bets 25 BB, Hero calls 25 BB


River: (86.5 BB, 2 players) 5:heart:
BB bets 57 BB and is all-in,


Hero calls 57 BB


BB shows 4:spade: 4:diamond: (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 51%, Flop 12%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows 8:diamond: T:heart: (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 49%, Flop 88%, Turn 86%)
BB wins 191.5 BB


thoughts on every street guys?


#10
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 196.6 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 30)
Hero (SB): 312.9 BB
BB: 61.3 BB (VPIP: 4.17, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.48, PFR: 16.55, 3Bet Preflop: 7.44, Hands: 576)
MP: 124.9 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.39, PFR: 11.36, 3Bet Preflop: 6.15, Hands: 135)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has XX


fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.8 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN raises to 30 BB, Hero calls 20 BB


Flop: (61 BB, 2 players) 4:heart: 3:club: 4:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets 23.3 BB, Hero calls 23.3 BB


Turn: (107.6 BB, 2 players) A:spade:
Hero checks, BTN checks


River: (107.6 BB, 2 players) J:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 48 BB, Hero raises to 224.9 BB,


ideal range for this line?


#11
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 140.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
SB: 259.9 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 9)
BB: 167.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: 192.8 BB (VPIP: 9.64, PFR: 7.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 84)
MP: 20 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (CO): 107.7 BB


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:diamond: Q:spade:


fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB


Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) K:heart: 9:spade: 9:heart:
BB checks, Hero checks


Turn: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 9:club:
BB checks, Hero bets 3.9 BB, BB calls 3.9 BB


River: (14.3 BB, 2 players) Q:club:
BB checks, Hero bets 38 BB, BB raises to 99 BB,


Hero calls 61 BB


BB shows 8:heart: 9:diamond: (Four of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 17%, Flop 90%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks Q:diamond: Q:spade: (Full House, Queens full of Nines)
(Pre 83%, Flop 10%, Turn 0%)
BB wins 202.7 BB


Beauty of tagging overaggros


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


BTN: 151.9 BB (VPIP: 23.36, PFR: 13.08, 3Bet Preflop: 9.26, Hands: 108)
SB: 146.2 BB (VPIP: 18.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 63)
Hero (BB): 298 BB
UTG: 138.7 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 36.36, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 11)
MP: 63 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
CO: 115.5 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:


UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, UTG calls 7 BB


Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond: 4:club: 7:diamond:
Hero bets 11 BB, UTG calls 11 BB


Turn: (42.5 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond:
Hero checks, UTG bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB


River: (86.5 BB, 2 players) J:spade:
Hero checks, UTG bets 95.7 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 95.7 BB


UTG shows 8:diamond: 7:heart: (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 34%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows K:diamond: K:club: (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 66%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 265.4 BB
 
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