Campbell92: Micro Cash Game Reg Thread

[acky100]

Im very much with WV on this point too.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

tried tiling for the last half hour of my last session..

i'll try it again now, but i'm not gonna be happy about it.

hate tiling.

 

[Cafeman]

What WV said.

No really, read it again, he's right you know!

 

[brank]

If you're getting bored playing so few tables you're not making enough notes or watching the action you're not involved in enough.

QFMFT

 

[micalupagoo]

i just got on skype, would love to have accessto the study group
micalupagoo...add me all

ohh, and no advise to this post...cept listen to WVH

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

had a few sessions as of late playing 6 tables tiled for learning purposes.

hate tiles though so switching between massing it and the WV way.

doing ok?

 

[WVHillbilly]

Nice. Make sure you're taking lots of notes when you're tiling so you can refer to them when you're stacking at least.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

also thoughts on this hand.

aside from the flop raise (and river raise?), should've been bigger. (leak)

too thin of a value raise? his bet sizing indicates (to me anyway) he can't have a K or flush.. the 4 paired so now I beat J9, or maybe its just better to call, I dunno.

pokerstars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP+1: $10.00
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $7.85
SB: $10.14
BB: $10.00
UTG: $6.89
UTG+1: $7.28
MP: $6.57

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Qs Qh

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, SB calls $0.25, fold

Flop: ($0.70, 2 players) 9d 4c Jd
SB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.20, 2 players) Kd
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($5.20, 2 players) 4s
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.10

Hero shows Qs Qh (Two Pair, Queens and Fours) (Pre 85%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
SB mucks 3h Jh (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours) (Pre 15%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins $7.83

 

[bgomez89]

also thoughts on this hand.

aside from the flop raise (and river raise?), should've been bigger. (leak)

too thin of a value raise? his bet sizing indicates (to me anyway) he can't have a K or flush.. the 4 paired so now I beat J9, or maybe its just better to call, I dunno.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP+1: $10.00
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $7.85
SB: $10.14
BB: $10.00
UTG: $6.89
UTG+1: $7.28
MP: $6.57

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Qs Qh

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, SB calls $0.25, fold

Flop: ($0.70, 2 players) 9d 4c Jd
SB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.20, 2 players) Kd
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($5.20, 2 players) 4s
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.10

Hero shows Qs Qh (Two Pair, Queens and Fours) (Pre 85%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
SB mucks 3h Jh (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours) (Pre 15%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins $7.83

Why raise the flop? Why are you raising the river?

Also sick downswing lol

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

Why raise the flop? Why are you raising the river?

Also sick downswing lol

hope my thought process is ok on this one, trying to learn..

raised the flop because:

a) donk bettors annoy me
b) if he has air he's not going to barrel the turn, but if he has a hand, most likely Jx, he's willing to call a raise so I can town him
c) doubt he donks with his strong hands he's more likely to check raise (or check min raise, whatever) so this leaves air and weak made hands I can value town
d) quite a few turn cards kill my action
e) want to charge him for the draws in his range
f) stations gonna station

raised the river because:

a) his bet sizing says he doesn't have K/flush/straight
b) I was willing to fold to a jam
c) the 4 paired so now I beat J9

 

[Jurn8]

hope my thought process is ok on this one, trying to learn..

raised the flop because:

a) donk bettors annoy me
b) if he has air he's not going to barrel the turn, but if he has a hand, most likely Jx, he's willing to call a raise so I can town him
c) doubt he donks with his strong hands he's more likely to check raise (or check min raise, whatever) so this leaves air and weak made hands I can value town
d) quite a few turn cards kill my action
e) want to charge him for the draws in his range
f) stations gonna station

raised the river because:

a) his bet sizing says he doesn't have K/flush/straight
b) I was willing to fold to a jam
c) the 4 paired so now I beat J9

do we know anything about villian or is he unknown?
I probably raise for value vs a donkbet and probably cry if he jams. the flop is a kinda tricky spot we get value from his donk/calling range but i think at FR people are only jamming huge combo draws and sets here (non fish). They aren't jamming NFD's or QT.
As played he river raise is really thin but because of his super small turn and river bet it looks so much like Jx, he would bet way bigger with a boat and possibly a flush. However I dont think you get called by worse alot of the time raising, I would call and get a read on his lines taken.
Your thought process is getting there, one thing I would say is think about what his calling range is for raising. If this guy is a complete retard then its fine (he obvs is) but think about it vs diff player types

 

[bgomez89]

Y u no post reads if you have them?

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

do we know anything about villian or is he unknown?
I probably raise for value vs a donkbet and probably cry if he jams. the flop is a kinda tricky spot we get value from his donk/calling range but i think at FR people are only jamming huge combo draws and sets here (non fish). They aren't jamming NFD's or QT.
As played he river raise is really thin but because of his super small turn and river bet it looks so much like Jx, he would bet way bigger with a boat and possibly a flush. However I dont think you get called by worse alot of the time raising, I would call and get a read on his lines taken.
Your thought process is getting there, one thing I would say is think about what his calling range is for raising. If this guy is a complete retard then its fine (he obvs is) but think about it vs diff player types

unknown, so we agree on the same line.. good.

regs don't donk bet at 10nl, but I'd probably take the same line.. reg'd normally check turn, so I can check back then turn.. then thinly value bet river.

other player types?

Y u no post reads if you have them?

his bet sizing indicates (to me anyway) he can't have a K or flush.. the 4 paired so now I beat J9, or maybe its just better to call, I dunno.

apart from that no real reads.. 10+ tabling and he was tagged green for fish.

 

[Jurn8]

unknown, so we agree on the same line.. good.

regs don't donk bet at 10nl, but I'd probably take the same line.. reg'd normally check turn, so I can check back then turn.. then thinly value bet river.

other player types?





apart from that no real reads.. 10+ tabling and he was tagged green for fish.

i probs wouldnt raise river vs a complete unknown and play less tables to create reads + improve at 10nl

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

made a nitty fold in the end after tanking.. no reads, figured he could be raising a Q for value and I beat all logical Q's that could be there (in a fish's mind QJ, QT etc), but the nit side of me made me fold.

can any of you find a call here?

does he always have a boat here or what? 33/44 are way in his range since fish love limping small pairs.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: $5.33
BTN: $3.85
SB: $3.94
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $6.91
UTG+1: $5.68
MP: $3.85

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Qd Kc

UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, fold, CO calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.45, 4 players) Ad Qs 4c
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.45, 4 players) Qc
Hero bets $0.32, UTG calls $0.32, fold, fold

River: ($1.09, 2 players) 3d
Hero bets $0.70, UTG raises to $2.60,

Hero ?

 

[WVHillbilly]

Why are you checking behind preflop? If you know he loves limp/calling small pairs make him pay for the privilege and then take the (now bigger) pot away 85% of the time he misses his set. I make it at least 65c preflop.

 

[bgomez89]

made a nitty fold in the end after tanking.. no reads, figured he could be raising a Q for value and I beat all logical Q's that could be there (in a fish's mind QJ, QT etc), but the nit side of me made me fold.

can any of you find a call here?

does he always have a boat here or what? 33/44 are way in his range since fish love limping small pairs.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: $5.33
BTN: $3.85
SB: $3.94
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $6.91
UTG+1: $5.68
MP: $3.85

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Qd Kc

UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, fold, CO calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.45, 4 players) Ad Qs 4c
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.45, 4 players) Qc
Hero bets $0.32, UTG calls $0.32, fold, fold

River: ($1.09, 2 players) 3d
Hero bets $0.70, UTG raises to $2.60,

Hero ?

raise pre for sure. I still want to snap UTGs raise but whatever

 

[bgomez89]

hope my thought process is ok on this one, trying to learn..

raised the flop because:

a) donk bettors annoy me
b) if he has air he's not going to barrel the turn, but if he has a hand, most likely Jx, he's willing to call a raise so I can town him
c) doubt he donks with his strong hands he's more likely to check raise (or check min raise, whatever) so this leaves air and weak made hands I can value town
d) quite a few turn cards kill my action
e) want to charge him for the draws in his range
f) stations gonna station

raised the river because:

a) his bet sizing says he doesn't have K/flush/straight
b) I was willing to fold to a jam
c) the 4 paired so now I beat J9

I'm much more likely to flat the flop against a reg I guess but I'm ok with raising against a fish, turn is cool. The river, hmm, usually I'd just flat here because I don't think much that we beat will call us, especially if you're saying his bet sizing indicates he doesn't have a K/flush/striaght. So really we're just hoping he has AJ/QJ/JT/J9

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

Why are you checking behind preflop? If you know he loves limp/calling small pairs make him pay for the privilege and then take the (now bigger) pot away 85% of the time he misses his set. I make it at least 65c preflop.

raise pre for sure. I still want to snap UTGs raise but whatever

really? I didn't know he loves limp calling small pairs this is what I assumed.

and it's a problem, I hate playing hands OOP, and KQ makes a good top pair hand so I figured checking back to keep the pot smaller OOP made more sense.

I'm much more likely to flat the flop against a reg I guess but I'm ok with raising against a fish, turn is cool. The river, hmm, usually I'd just flat here because I don't think much that we beat will call us, especially if you're saying his bet sizing indicates he doesn't have a K/flush/striaght. So really we're just hoping he has AJ/QJ/JT/J9

or J3h.

but yah, he never has me beat here though?

after the turn and river bet sizing.

 

[bgomez89]

No I think you're beat some of the time. If the guy is a fish I don't think that bet size is indicative of him not have k/flush/straight

 

[WVHillbilly]

really? I didn't know he loves limp calling small pairs this is what I assumed.
and it's a problem, I hate playing hands OOP, and KQ makes a good top pair hand so I figured checking back to keep the pot smaller OOP made more sense.

It's a good assumption. Just raise there for value every time. The problem with keeping the pot small preflop is that he'll never make a big pot postflop without having you crushed. So making a good TP hand sucks balls postflop if any real $$s go in. Just raise preflop, bet flop, make $$.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

It's a good assumption. Just raise there for value every time. The problem with keeping the pot small preflop is that he'll never make a big pot postflop without having you crushed. So making a good TP hand sucks balls postflop if any real $$s go in. Just raise preflop, bet flop, make $$.

No I think you're beat some of the time. If the guy is a fish I don't think that bet size is indicative of him not have k/flush/straight

sorry missed these.

gomez, but isn't raising here for value from a J and folding to a shove better than just stationing every time?

we get told when we're beat and get more value when we're ahead.

WV, umm. 4-way OOP assuming someone's gonna hit, which means I have to DB like every time assuming a scare card comes or we catch.

and I'm not looking for a big pot with one-pair all of the time here.. since his range is small PP I'd rather check and value own the other limper when we have him dominated.

the UTG limper's never gonna bet when he doesn't have it into 3 people.. as seen by the flop check (unless he was slowplaying?!) so I dunno, its prob wrong but I prefer checking.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

just got in a 2k hand session.

struggling to get myself to sit down and grind but as soon as I do I'm not bothered..

gonna post spots up for review as soon as I review my session.

here's my current graph.

edit: no spots to speak of, well that was pointless.

 

[WVHillbilly]

WV, umm. 4-way OOP assuming someone's gonna hit, which means I have to DB like every time assuming a scare card comes or we catch.

and I'm not looking for a big pot with one-pair all of the time here.. since his range is small PP I'd rather check and value own the other limper when we have him dominated.

the UTG limper's never gonna bet when he doesn't have it into 3 people.. as seen by the flop check (unless he was slowplaying?!) so I dunno, its prob wrong but I prefer checking.

Checking here is HORRIBLE. I mean you'd actually be better folding instead of checking. And if you raise preflop, you're very unlikely to go 4 to the flop. In fact most of the time you won't even see a flop you'll just get a free 35 cents and move on to the next hand.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

Checking here is HORRIBLE. I mean you'd actually be better folding instead of checking. And if you raise preflop, you're very unlikely to go 4 to the flop. In fact most of the time you won't even see a flop you'll just get a free 35 cents and move on to the next hand.

ok ok!

I surrender! won't check in those spots from now on.