Can you win a tournament without any skill?

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may be... you should be god
small sng can be win buy luck but mtt ?/ i don't think so
or a sunday million never
its not that easy baby
 
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I just want to know if you can win any tournament just by being lucky, including freerolls and every other tournament.

Yes you can. You can also win the lottery. All it takes is being very lucky.

Is it probable? Not at all. Playing the lottery takes no skill whatsoever. You'll find that you get "luckier" the better you play.
 
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Oh man, a lot of donks,idiots win tournaments having no skill...What can you do, sh$t happens
 
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can you win with out any skill

in free rolls you don't have to have skills in poker. because people will just go all in rags and win. so to me those people don't have any skills they only way the can make a long way is if the double up or even triple up on the first hand.then when they get a lot of chips they try to be chip bully to keep on getting chips.
 
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I have very little skill as a beginner and I have won a few. So you can I assume:)
 
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It´s hard, but it´s possible.
 
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I often see donk players who get lucky playing multiple hands and build up huge stacks but trust me unless they have some skill and calm down a bit they lose the big stack just as quick as they built it and they won't last whole tourney to take it down. Depends on the size of the field etc, but I'd say player needs a lot of luck but also he needs to know what he's doing to succeed. Hyper turbo tournaments etc are bit different though.
 
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Yep.. after all its a game of luck. With skill you can come further in the tournaments then average players.
 
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of cause possible-there are many people with unreal luck, if they also have skill I think they are unbeatable)))
 
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Probable yes.I remember that i win one tournament the first year when i start to play...That was something like 3500$ first place and i can say now that i was a such fish...
 
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I think yes. Playing in the MTT I could set out before the prizes. On the contrary I have two players - All In. I'm confused and pressed the button "call" instead of "fold" with trash cards. As a result - I increased my stack, and got to the final table. Luck!
 
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Definitely yes, but whith big bag whith luck ;)
 
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I don´t think so. You can´t win a tourney (not a sng 9players) without any skill. You need something more than the rules, even it´s little. If you play with some sharks, you can´t win it. Maybe you enter in the money, but not win it.
 
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I have no skill and have won quite a few tournaments so the answer is a definite yes.
You're almost always rising on top of the CC Leaderboard.

So what do you mean by "no skill"? :confused:
 
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Anyone can win any tournament without any skills.
 
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Sure. But it's inversely exponential hard to do it, when player count and buy-in (in terms of level of players) rise. It's rather easy to win some 100 players freeroll with no skill at all occasinoally, but very hard to win some 1 000 players reg-infested 100$ tournament with no skill.
 
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I don't think you can win a tournament with absolute zero skill, regardless of how lucky you are.
 
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No one can be that lucky. I mean you can wait for the right hand to play and fold any other, but there are to much ppl who just don't care( talking about small buy-in tours) shuv with 10, 3 and such.
You need some skill to read people at your table, but you need to do it fast cuz you can be moved.
But then again it's 1:1 000 000 and it's like that 32k players heads up all in. tour.
 
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Everything is possible. You need a lot luck.
 
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yes and know if you know some basic stuff and can hit a few hands you can make a deep run but you do need a little luck like hands holding and hope you don't run into a cooler
 
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not yet

I haven't yet but I know people who have. My cousin Danny
 
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Beginner's luck, rare but possible.
 
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It's possible to make a lot of the right moves without really understanding why they are correct, so of course you can win a tournament with minimal skill. I have seen people at the final table who got there purely on aggression. I have also seen tight players get to the final table by catching the right cards at the right time. Both were inherently lucky along the way.

I find that final tables aren't really the best and brightest of the bunch, you'll have a few who got there on skill others by the method described about.
Figuring out which one you are is pretty easy to do.
Did you catch cards? Or did you play solid?
Are you acting like a maniac? Or are you composed and deliberate?

If you are a maniac catching cards, that ain't skill, that won't replicate.
If you were solid and deliberate, that is skill, that will replicate.

For this reason I don't judge wins or losses, but consistency of play style, and the ability to use reads and create effective counters and folds off those reads.

Spend a long time figuring out how credible you are, but not a long time figuring out how incredible you are.
Wins are nothing at the end of the day, cuz tomorrow you have to get up and play your best yet again, having a slightly bigger bankroll doesn't make games easier.

In fact, after big wins most people backslide.
It is in your best interests to just not make too many conclusions about your skill level without having a broader perspective and proven ability to gauge these things accurately.

My short answer is, yeah, you can win only luck, like 1 in a 1000
But better players will win in less than that, like 1 in 50
That kind of winning percentage comes from tight foundations multiplied with things lining up.
 
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