what u think about addons and rebuys in online poker?

[ph_il]

I don’t quite understand how ribeye and addon can interfere with learning !!! Yes, the format of such tournaments is more aggressive, but there are such tourneys at all levels !!! Moreover, the goal of poker rooms is not learning, but making money !!!

ribeye mtts can be tough if it's high steaks. I tried playing one at a casino, on the new york strip, and got completely grilled. I didn't even sear it coming, those high steaks players were tough.

also, how can you make money in poker is you're not learning?

 

[poweROFLuck]

it's not unfair as you know add-ons are an option prior to playing.

your chip stack position means nothing. it's just what your total stack size in comparison to other players. but mtts aren't won based on how long you hold a position for. think of it this way, if you were to bust out of the mtt while you were 6th in chips, do you finish in 6th position? no, you finish in 180th.

sure, it might be a little easier to finish higher with a bigger stack but it's more important to look at total big blinds you have than stack position.

so, if you have 100 bbs before the add-on, in 6th/180 players, you still have 100 bbs even if your position drops to 156th/180. or maybe slightly less if blinds go up, but you still need to play your total bbs on relation to the other bbs at the table, not your chip stack position.

ah so its the same having 48k chips vs 80% of people with 7-15k and also the same to have 48k and everyone else 60++ ? 1 all in and im out, before that i could go all-in vs low chip players easier and not pray for the PS rng who always go terrible

Don't forget the blinds and the ante.. + the FEAR factor that you have of eliminating when u are just at the bottom of tournament. ADD 50K chips and you forget about all of that, playing more comfortable. Its not same,if re-buys or addons didnt exist half of these players wouldnt even make it to top 1000 because they are donkeys

 

[spectralwave]

I think it's a good alternative, because sometimes you end up with the best game for a horrible game because of your villain's luck and not because of skill and it's a type of tournament that people love and they'll have the chance to register again to double up and move on from the tournament.

 

[Mantinhoo]

I don't use and don't like it.
If you have already lost, it means this tournament is not for you, look for success elsewhere.

 

[franciscomos]

I don't think it's fair because not all of the player could afford it, I think de add-on it's good only when it applies to all players.

 

[ElScorcho008]

I don't like them. You should have the 1 chance, if you lose you lose

 

[dongato2]

They are not the games of my choice, but I think it is better to pay for an add-on than another rebuyn

 

[ph_il]

ah so its the same having 48k chips vs 80% of people with 7-15k and also the same to have 48k and everyone else 60++ ? 1 all in and im out, before that i could go all-in vs low chip players easier and not pray for the PS rng who always go terrible

in terms of bbs, your stack is the same as it was before. and many of your decisions in mtts are based on stack sizes in bbs, yours and the other players at the table. as well as other factors like positioning, play style, etc, but bbs is one of them.

being able to adjust to different situations is also important. if most players now have 60k stacks and you have 48k, which we'll say is 60 bbs and 48 bbs, how do you adjust is key. how would you adjust if you were on a table with 48 bbs and everyone else had 25 bbs? how would you adjust if you took the add-on and had 98 bbs, then lost and dropped down 30 bbs. you always need to adjust for any situation. I'm not denying that playing as a big stack is a bit easier, but knowing how to play in all stack size situations is more important because you don't always be the big stack.

I do understand what you're saying about potentially busting out vs a bigger stack but, if you're making +ev decisions and getting your stack in +ev situations, you have better odds to double up. it's simple math and you shouldn't fear losing as a huge favorite.

Don't forget the blinds and the ante.. + the FEAR factor that you have of eliminating when u are just at the bottom of tournament. ADD 50K chips and you forget about all of that, playing more comfortable. Its not same,if re-buys or addons didnt exist half of these players wouldnt even make it to top 1000 because they are donkeys

with 48 bbs, i doubt you're at the bottom of the tournament. and even if you are, you still have 48 bbs so, who cares? again, assuming 48k stack = 48 bbs.

with mtts, you should never fear getting eliminated. that's not why you play them, otherwise, just don't play them and never even worry about it. the things with mtts is you're going to bust out of them a lot without cashing. standard itm is 20-30%. so, in 100 mtts, you're not cashing in 70-80 of them. so, why fear the inevitable? sure adding more bbs and having a bigger stack makes things easier, but it's not a guarantee. again, knowing how to make stack size adjustments is going to be more beneficial because that's ongoing until your mtt ends.

 

[Liedust]

If we talk about micro limit tournaments, I think there should be no rebuys or addons... the game is greatly distorted in my opinion.
Regards