What you think about late registering to tournaments ?
Few weeks ago, i late registered at the last possible moment to the 1.1 hot tournament at pokerstars, and ended up becoming 3rd, managed to get 151$.
It is quite frustrating to play for an 1-2 hours and fall out without geting nothing.
While you max late reg, if you win couple all-ins, you are ITM.
So what you think ? Could you possible print money even if you will max late reg to every tournament ?

I don't like tournaments with very long late registrations. Half an hour is ideal for me. Those players who are simply late will have time to register.

Originally Posted by Iryna Stryzheuskaya

I don't like tournaments with very long late registrations. Half an hour is ideal for me. Those players who are simply late will have time to register.

Yes bro, but on the one hand you can kind of get into ITM easier and faster, and with a better prepared mind

I prefer to register before a tournament even start, because I like to prepare myself before hand. I don't particularly like the tournaments that have such a long late registration, but I have done wat you have said also just to see and most times Im out anyhow because my starting stack is just too small against others by that time and the blinds are pretty high also.

I think some people prefer to show up at the end of late registration, they probably have more experience or a bit of luck.

Originally Posted by GeckoAA

I prefer to register before a tournament even start, because I like to prepare myself before hand. I don't particularly like the tournaments that have such a long late registration, but I have done wat you have said also just to see and most times Im out anyhow because my starting stack is just too small against others by that time and the blinds are pretty high also.

I think some people prefer to show up at the end of late registration, they probably have more experience or a bit of luck.

Yes bro I agree, but in my opinion that makes the registration late, it has more focus because your mind is more rested than the mind of the opponent that started since the beginning of the tournament. Thank you very much for such a beautiful phrase!
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Late registration for those who do not like to rush...

Originally Posted by Marcus_Trivinho

Yes bro I agree, but in my opinion that makes the registration late, it has more focus because your mind is more rested than the mind of the opponent that started since the beginning of the tournament. Thank you very much for such a beautiful phrase!
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Your opinion makes sense that your mind would be fresh. It would also waste less if your time; to play hard then either your in or out much more quickly. I think I would need more experience and I’ll keep giving it a go at micros. I guess you would play it like an “All in or Fold” at first . Good luck and take care out there!!

Late registering is a good strategy if you master sub30bb play. But it increases variance significantly .

You'll have a higher winrate by registering at the start to take max advantage of deep stacked play against opponents happy to donate a stack.

But if it's a tournament at the lower end of your buyin range and you just want to play, there's nothing wrong with doing that and just having a slightly lower edge in that game

It works for me sometimes, but I know good players who can be profitable only by registering at the last minute.
I prefer to be in the tournament from the beginning to try to win as many chips as possible, or else not to play tournaments with late registration.

I think late registering with 20-30 bb is okay but I've seen a lot of tournaments that have late reg all the way until 5 bb. I don't know how entering with 5 bb can possibly be profitable unless you are literally at the bubble.

Totally agree late reg 20 to 30 bb is my ideal reg if going late, but i prefer to get in at the start and try to get in the top 10/top20 early

But it does prove taxing on the mind, sometimes i lead for hours only to snap later on n get booted just b4 the bubble 3 to 4 bad calls or bad beats

Originally Posted by Marcus_Trivinho

What you think about late registering to tournaments ?
Few weeks ago, i late registered at the last possible moment to the 1.1 hot tournament at pokerstars, and ended up becoming 3rd, managed to get 151$.
It is quite frustrating to play for an 1-2 hours and fall out without geting nothing.
While you max late reg, if you win couple all-ins, you are ITM.
So what you think ? Could you possible print money even if you will max late reg to every tournament ?

I think the same, late registration tournaments are very boring, ideally no longer than 30 minutes. Although entering when it starts you can have an advantage.

It's more luck and less skill, if you're not as good than hopping late can be beneficial.

I don't like much of late registration, it's quite frustrating to wait 3 or 4 hours sometimes before registration even closes.

You can build a stack quicker since you are buying in short, but can also bust out that first hand.

Originally Posted by Marcus_Trivinho

It is quite frustrating to play for an 1-2 hours and fall out without geting nothing.

If you feel that way, you are better off playing smaller events, which dont last as long. Like maybe the 1$ 45 man SnG. Sure its possible to get lucky and win a tournament, even you entered in the last moment. But its also possible to win a million dollar in the lottery, and that does not mean, lottery tickets have a positive expectation. As Collin Moshman say, you are giving up a ton of ROI, if you enter with a 10-15BB stack at the end of late registration.

Hi! For me, the optimal late registration in is 1 hour. I try to avoid tournaments with a very long registration period of more than 2 hours. Several times I entered the tournament in the last minutes of late registration, when I was given only 10 blinds. In this case, everything depends on luck. If you are not afraid to lose your buy-in, then you can try it.

I am a serial late register mtt player, I almost never play at the start if I can avoid it. It works on Pokerstars for me 2 double ups and a couple of steals here and there and you are itm most times.

As with many things late registering comes with many pros and cons. For me the pros outweigh the cons most times. This will be different from player to player.

On Pokerstars if you look well enough there are mtts on some days that you do not even a double to make itm a couple of raise and take it and you itm.

Originally Posted by Collin Moshman

You'll have a higher winrate by registering at the start to take max advantage of deep stacked play against opponents happy to donate a stack.

But if it's a tournament at the lower end of your buyin range and you just want to play, there's nothing wrong with doing that and just having a slightly lower edge in that game

Yes bro I agree with your opinion, registration at the beginning of the tournament you have more WinRate and can gather more chips, but the late registration helps you to be more psychologically prepared for the game, because there was no stress at the beginning

Originally Posted by PrinceJigger

I think late registering with 20-30 bb is okay but I've seen a lot of tournaments that have late reg all the way until 5 bb. I don't know how entering with 5 bb can possibly be profitable unless you are literally at the bubble.

I think that depending on the tournament, late registration becomes profitable, especially when it is close to the bubble as you said!

Originally Posted by frazzle1991

Totally agree late reg 20 to 30 bb is my ideal reg if going late, but i prefer to get in at the start and try to get in the top 10/top20 early

I think it's a good strategy to also try to reach the TOP20 of the tournament, so you can conserve your focus and energy for the end of the tournament or even when you reach the bubble.

Originally Posted by Marcus_Trivinho

What you think about late registering to tournaments ?
Few weeks ago, i late registered at the last possible moment to the 1.1 hot tournament at pokerstars, and ended up becoming 3rd, managed to get 151$.
It is quite frustrating to play for an 1-2 hours and fall out without geting nothing.
While you max late reg, if you win couple all-ins, you are ITM.
So what you think ? Could you possible print money even if you will max late reg to every tournament ?

I think late registrations arent very good. I always made losses with those buy ins but its up to you. I'll never signup for late registration again except its 1-10 minutes in

I think latereg is important, because sometimes it takes time to find the right tournament and sometimes there isnt the right starttime for everybody so u are able to joyn a bit later and have also chances with a smaller stack but u in the game

I like to enter a tournament at the very beginning of the game when the players have 100bb because you can double or triple the stack and play the pot peacefully until the final table with a stack advantage.

I love playing from the very beginning of the tour. More chances in the game. Who comes with late registration

usually go to the bank. Here you can also increase your winnings with a good card.

Originally Posted by frazzle1991

But it does prove taxing on the mind, sometimes i lead for hours only to snap later on n get booted just b4 the bubble 3 to 4 bad calls or bad beats

Yes Bro, I like the late registration for that reason, the person enters more prepared for the game and psychologically more unemployed

Originally Posted by yoshi352000

It's more luck and less skill, if you're not as good than hopping late can be beneficial.

I don't like much of late registration, it's quite frustrating to wait 3 or 4 hours sometimes before registration even closes.

You can build a stack quicker since you are buying in short, but can also bust out that first hand.

Yes bro I agree that the person has to be a little lucky when registering late, but I think more about my performance near the bubble than at the beginning of the tournament, in my opinion the moment when you extract more chips is when blinds are high, and using that against thigh and shortstack players is a good plan

Originally Posted by fundiver199

If you feel that way, you are better off playing smaller events, which dont last as long. Like maybe the 1$ 45 man SnG. Sure its possible to get lucky and win a tournament, even you entered in the last moment. But its also possible to win a million dollar in the lottery, and that does not mean, lottery tickets have a positive expectation. As Collin Moshman say, you are giving up a ton of ROI, if you enter with a 10-15BB stack at the end of late registration.

I agree with your opinion, but there is a certain difference between betting on the lottery and betting on poker, on the lottery you depend 100% on luck, on poker you only depend on 30% of luck, 70% is statistics and gameplay! In addition, I won't be losing a ton of ROI just because I didn't start at the beginning, because in reality the ROI at the beginning is very low in the middle and at the end of the tournament is where the biggest ROI rises!

It takes a lot of luck to get a good stack on late registration. I prefer to enter the tournament on time.

Originally Posted by Marcus_Trivinho

What you think about late registering to tournaments ?
Few weeks ago, i late registered at the last possible moment to the 1.1 hot tournament at pokerstars, and ended up becoming 3rd, managed to get 151$.
It is quite frustrating to play for an 1-2 hours and fall out without geting nothing.
While you max late reg, if you win couple all-ins, you are ITM.
So what you think ? Could you possible print money even if you will max late reg to every tournament ?

Many people use late registration to quickly enter the tournament. Indeed, a few successful allins can help you get to the dough. By the way, congratulations 3rd place is a great success. Try this option in a more expensive tournament. The prize may be higher.

Originally Posted by KozakAlex

Many people use late registration to quickly enter the tournament. Indeed, a few successful allins can help you get to the dough. By the way, congratulations 3rd place is a great success. Try this option in a more expensive tournament. The prize may be higher.

Thank you brother, I hope, to increase my stack to start playing in more expensive tournaments, is that I follow a risk management in my stack that helps me not to break because of anxiety!

i really find the arguments for and against very compelling, and indeed worthy of serious consideration. I, for my part, prefer the good old Knock-out tourneys, which don't give you the best odds registering late. Very interesting thread though. I,m going to try this tactic on a normal tourney just to see how it feels.

Sometimes it can work out and your normally only starting with 15bb so with a double up or two you again have a workable stack I've done this and final tabled and won tourneys.

I've also done it and had to shove almost immediately on Saturday I late reg 3 tourneys not like 5 mins to go but like 30mins and I lasted around 6 hands combined I picked up AK first hand with 12bb shoved and got called by pockets 8s and they held. 2nd hand of next tourney AQ shoves into AA and 3rd tourney 3rd hand pocket 10s walks into kings.

So while late reg into tourneys cuts out the slower early stages having to shove from the get go can go against you as most players at your table have you well covered and will call wider. Or you could be just crushed as I was in 2 out of 3 tourneys

If you want to pick some all ins with Ak+ late ia not so good

I prefer late regging when you have about 30bb starting stacks

When I reg too early, I end up grinding for 3 hours and then losing everything because I commit 100bb with a 2 pair and get out 2-paired or some silly thing like that and it gets really frustrating (did I just wast 3 hours for nothing to show for it???)

When I reg too late <20 bb, it becomes push fold and pray I win a flip which is not ideal

30bb is just right

Originally Posted by Marcus_Trivinho

In addition, I won't be losing a ton of ROI just because I didn't start at the beginning, because in reality the ROI at the beginning is very low in the middle and at the end of the tournament is where the biggest ROI rises!

I have to disagree with that. When you are down to a stack of 10-15BB you are finding literally no edge over your opponents, because even bad players can only make small mistakes in the push-fold game. This is the same reason, why the winrate ceiling is way lower in turbos than in MTTs with regular speed.

Of course when you get lucky and win the first flip or two, so that you get up to the tournament average or above, then you can find some edge later. But you are going to have a lot of events, where you basically play 1-2 hands, and then you are out. And overcoming a 12% rake this way is not going to be easy.

Also while there is a lot of threading water early on and small pots, which wont really matter much to the final result, it is also early on, that you are most likely to run into really bad players, who are ready to dust off a stack to you.

With all this being said late registration can be a way to increase your hourly winrate, because you are spending less time on each event, and you are concentrating on spots, where more chips are at stake due to higher blinds. In that sense its a bit like playing Zoom poker. But as with Zoom the only sure beneficiary of late registration is the poker site, because you end up paying more rake per hour.

Originally Posted by gon4iypes

i really find the arguments for and against very compelling, and indeed worthy of serious consideration. I, for my part, prefer the good old Knock-out tourneys, which don't give you the best odds registering late. Very interesting thread though. I,m going to try this tactic on a normal tourney just to see how it feels.

Yes bro the old tournaments are much better hahah, but good luck in your test, i hope everything goes well

Originally Posted by Ianmacca99

Sometimes it can work out and your normally only starting with 15bb so with a double up or two you again have a workable stack I've done this and final tabled and won tourneys.

I've also done it and had to shove almost immediately on Saturday I late reg 3 tourneys not like 5 mins to go but like 30mins and I lasted around 6 hands combined I picked up AK first hand with 12bb shoved and got called by pockets 8s and they held. 2nd hand of next tourney AQ shoves into AA and 3rd tourney 3rd hand pocket 10s walks into kings.

So while late reg into tourneys cuts out the slower early stages having to shove from the get go can go against you as most players at your table have you well covered and will call wider. Or you could be just crushed as I was in 2 out of 3 tourneys

Yes brother, I also think it is totally feasible to do this type of strategy and the part as you said, eliminates the slow part of the beginning and so you have more concentration and focus in the middle and at the end of the tournament

Originally Posted by whowantwhat

I prefer late regging when you have about 30bb starting stacks

When I reg too early, I end up grinding for 3 hours and then losing everything because I commit 100bb with a 2 pair and get out 2-paired or some silly thing like that and it gets really frustrating (did I just wast 3 hours for nothing to show for it???)

When I reg too late <20 bb, it becomes push fold and pray I win a flip which is not ideal

30bb is just right

I agree with your opinion, the same thing happens to me when I have 100bb, I go into many hands in which I would not play in positions that are bad, and I end up wasting my time in the end, I much prefer the late registration even having this disadvantage from BB!

I don't play tournaments with late reg from the start, i do much better entering near end of registration, looking to hit some all-ins, also don't like long tournaments.

Originally Posted by Marcus_Trivinho

I agree with your opinion, the same thing happens to me when I have 100bb, I go into many hands in which I would not play in positions that are bad, and I end up wasting my time in the end, I much prefer the late registration even having this disadvantage from BB!

If you are not very good at 100BB poker, then you can protect yourself from making mistakes by not registrering, until blinds have gone up, so that a starting stack is only around 30-40BB. With that stack size you typically cant go completely wrong by stacking off two pair or a good top pair, unless the board is obviously straighty or flushy.

The better solution however is to learn to become good at 100BB poker, so that you can take advantage of other tournament players, who are not. The best way to practice 100BB poker and also just postflop in general is to play cash games. So even if you know, you are eventually going to go the MTT route, there is a lot of value in getting at least 100.000 or prefarably more cash game hands under your belt.

Originally Posted by Marcus_Trivinho

What you think about late registering to tournaments ?
Few weeks ago, i late registered at the last possible moment to the 1.1 hot tournament at pokerstars, and ended up becoming 3rd, managed to get 151$.
It is quite frustrating to play for an 1-2 hours and fall out without geting nothing.
While you max late reg, if you win couple all-ins, you are ITM.
So what you think ? Could you possible print money even if you will max late reg to every tournament ?

I prefer to play the tournament from the very beginning. Especially knockout tournaments, because the larger the stack, the more opportunities to knock someone out.
But if the tournament has a smooth structure and a rather long late registration, then I don't see anything wrong with going at the end of it.

I think in your case you are just lucky. Apparently it was your day, and regardless of the stage of registration you would get a good result. For me personally, this is a matter of my mood. If I want, then I register and play, and if I don't want, then I don't play.

I have a positive attitude towards late registration. and therefore I often use this option. And it's especially nice when you quickly get into the prize zone.

Originally Posted by chs2051

I don't play tournaments with late reg from the start, i do much better entering near end of registration, looking to hit some all-ins, also don't like long tournaments.

Yes bro, I also prefer to enter the end of the record and try to hit some all-ins

Originally Posted by fundiver199

If you are not very good at 100BB poker, then you can protect yourself from making mistakes by not registrering, until blinds have gone up, so that a starting stack is only around 30-40BB. With that stack size you typically cant go completely wrong by stacking off two pair or a good top pair, unless the board is obviously straighty or flushy.

The better solution however is to learn to become good at 100BB poker, so that you can take advantage of other tournament players, who are not. The best way to practice 100BB poker and also just postflop in general is to play cash games. So even if you know, you are eventually going to go the MTT route, there is a lot of value in getting at least 100.000 or prefarably more cash game hands under your belt.

Yes bro, I don't feel very comfortable playing tournaments with many blinds and long tournaments with a blind duration of 15 min, for me this is very exhausting!

Originally Posted by ToNy70929

I have a positive attitude towards late registration. and therefore I often use this option. And it's especially nice when you quickly get into the prize zone.

Yes bro, I also love late registration for that matter of being closer to the prize

This is good you played well late registration is not always good because the blinds will eat up your stack for a couple of hands if the cards do not come to you and with a bad hand go to olyn very little interest on winning.

I hate that tournaments have a very long late registration....

Originally Posted by masik6

This is good you played well late registration is not always good because the blinds will eat up your stack for a couple of hands if the cards do not come to you and with a bad hand go to olyn very little interest on winning.

Yes bro, in this game there's always a little luck

I really like late registration, I don't want to lose extra 2 hours.Either I double up quickly and everything goes on,or I leave the tournament.Everything is very easy and simple)

I totally agree that the late 20-30 bb record is my ideal record if I'm going late, but I prefer to get in early and try to be in the top 10 / top 20 early

Originally Posted by Marcus_Trivinho

What you think about late registering to tournaments ?
Few weeks ago, i late registered at the last possible moment to the 1.1 hot tournament at pokerstars, and ended up becoming 3rd, managed to get 151$.
It is quite frustrating to play for an 1-2 hours and fall out without geting nothing.
While you max late reg, if you win couple all-ins, you are ITM.
So what you think ? Could you possible print money even if you will max late reg to every tournament ?

Luck has a lot to do with it. If you are lucky that day you will get lucky late reg or no late reg. Also by registering late you are kinda force to play a bit more aggressive since blinds are bigger so that can work to your advantage. I normally dont do late reg since I feel like I'm missing opportunities to double up and see flops for cheap, hands I dont normally play when blinds are big. Last tournament at the Venitian I arrived late and lasted 3 hands. First hand folded KQ would have flopped a straight but guy who went all in with AA hit a runner runner for the nut flush vs someone else. Second hand I get AA and lose to a straight on the river. Hand after that I get KK and lose to QQ when they flop their set.

I like to late-reg into bounty tournaments a bit later a lot of people with under starting stack high blinds makes it ideal to get it in ax into weaker hands like jq who wouldnt call early stage. with like 100bbs but would with 0-16bbs

wouldnt recommend doing so in rebuy games.

some tournaments on ACR i late reg last second and if you waste your timebank a little bit you get itm (wouldnt fold premium hands tho just to get itm) not all games just a few and depends how many players want out quick enough at the last few min of late reg

but a few $ richer just by wasting some timebank is nice

and gg on your 3rd place

it really depends on what kind of tournament it is really, i like to play late registration when the blind levels are 12 min or more.

Originally Posted by Marcus_Trivinho

What you think about late registering to tournaments ?
Few weeks ago, i late registered at the last possible moment to the 1.1 hot tournament at pokerstars, and ended up becoming 3rd, managed to get 151$.
It is quite frustrating to play for an 1-2 hours and fall out without geting nothing.
While you max late reg, if you win couple all-ins, you are ITM.
So what you think ? Could you possible print money even if you will max late reg to every tournament ?

I still remember the days when there was no late registration at all. there were a lot of overlays and the number of players in the tournaments was not so impressive. Now late registration lasts from 2, and in some rooms it even reaches 5 hours! I am against it and would like it to be reduced to at least half an hour in tournaments with a regular structure (10-12 minutes), but alas, no one will listen to me)

Originally Posted by MAGICUZ

I really like late registration, I don't want to lose extra 2 hours.Either I double up quickly and everything goes on,or I leave the tournament.Everything is very easy and simple)

Yes bro I love late registration mainly because of this reason of not wasting too much time with the beginning of the jog, playing hands in which I should not play

Originally Posted by Mati532

I totally agree that the late 20-30 bb record is my ideal record if I'm going late, but I prefer to get in early and try to be in the top 10 / top 20 early

Yes, on the one hand 30bb is still a comfortable stack to play, but the good thing about starting to play at the beginning of the game is that you can analyze who are the fish that will catch the bb during the game hahah

Originally Posted by zerosalex

Luck has a lot to do with it. If you are lucky that day you will get lucky late reg or no late reg. Also by registering late you are kinda force to play a bit more aggressive since blinds are bigger so that can work to your advantage. I normally dont do late reg since I feel like I'm missing opportunities to double up and see flops for cheap, hands I dont normally play when blinds are big. Last tournament at the Venitian I arrived late and lasted 3 hands. First hand folded KQ would have flopped a straight but guy who went all in with AA hit a runner runner for the nut flush vs someone else. Second hand I get AA and lose to a straight on the river. Hand after that I get KK and lose to QQ when they flop their set.

Yes bro this happens because of the variance of the game, so you must play on many tables so you can break this variance of the game, yesterday I lost 10 hands with AA, and 3 with KK, it happens but at the end of the day I managed to stay in 3 of a 4k gtf tournament and my bank doubled!

Originally Posted by slicheri93

I like to late-reg into bounty tournaments a bit later a lot of people with under starting stack high blinds makes it ideal to get it in ax into weaker hands like jq who wouldnt call early stage. with like 100bbs but would with 0-16bbs

wouldnt recommend doing so in rebuy games.

some tournaments on ACR i late reg last second and if you waste your timebank a little bit you get itm (wouldnt fold premium hands tho just to get itm) not all games just a few and depends how many players want out quick enough at the last few min of late reg

but a few $ richer just by wasting some timebank is nice

and gg on your 3rd place

the tricky part of this strategy is that when the tournament is KO the players with a big stack will call their all in with QJ and will probably lose, because the range of these players are very bad considering the size of the chips

Originally Posted by mojacko_king

it really depends on what kind of tournament it is really, i like to play late registration when the blind levels are 12 min or more.

Yes, it is a good strategy to play the tournaments with 12 min bb when you have late registration

Originally Posted by nuttea

I still remember the days when there was no late registration at all. there were a lot of overlays and the number of players in the tournaments was not so impressive. Now late registration lasts from 2, and in some rooms it even reaches 5 hours! I am against it and would like it to be reduced to at least half an hour in tournaments with a regular structure (10-12 minutes), but alas, no one will listen to me)

Yes on the one hand it is good, but on the other hand it is bad because tournaments tend to take longer due to new players entering, but on the other hand it is good because the pot gets fatter

Originally Posted by _xgeb_

If you are not good at playing with a lot of bbs, I recommend that you enter the middle of the late registration. It is not recommended with a minute to close. It would be a bad idea.

I like to play deep but, as I am very anxious I cannot play the game correctly because in my mind the bb are very low and I have more chips than I can spend

Originally Posted by williemays56

i dont like a long late registraion

I respect your opinion, some don't like me

If you are not good at playing with a lot of bbs, I recommend that you enter the middle of the late registration. It is not recommended with a minute to close. It would be a bad idea.

i dont like a long late registraion