***September SNG Thread***

[ph_il]

good luck philthy! I was wondering while I was reading your post if you were still gonna 16-table these lol, 4-6 tables sounds great.

LOL-I tried 16 tabling the ST HU before...all I heard were constant alert beeps non-stop.

 

[cjatud2012]

LOL-I tried 16 tabling the ST HU before...all I heard were constant alert beeps non-stop.

lol honestly you could probably just shove every single hand and it'd work out at 16-tables. Hell that might even be a good strategy for 4-6 tables.

 

[arahel_jazz]

1) Don't be stupid and donk shove into dry boards trying to push off micro-stakes players.
2) Continue good BR management and stick with the $2.25 27-player SnG's around 00:00 GMT. Really soft tables.

Example of #1. Why the hell do I do stupid things like this?

full tilt poker Game #23603565266: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (182526871), Table 2 - 250/500 - No Limit Hold'em - 01:25:17 ET - 2010/09/04
Seat 1: dontcodeNJ (4,167)
Seat 2: JCR38 (1,335)
Seat 3: eulin08 (5,800)
Seat 4: STRIPERFJH (9,803)
Seat 7: cantonis (7,875)
Seat 8: arahel_jazz (6,460)
Seat 9: Fred Flintoff (5,060)
cantonis posts the small blind of 250
arahel_jazz posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to arahel_jazz [3d Qs]
Fred Flintoff folds
dontcodeNJ folds
JCR38 folds
eulin08 has 15 seconds left to act
eulin08 has timed out
eulin08 folds
eulin08 is sitting out
STRIPERFJH calls 500
cantonis folds
arahel_jazz checks
*** FLOP *** [Th 3c 4d]
arahel_jazz has 15 seconds left to act
arahel_jazz checks
eulin08 has returned
STRIPERFJH bets 500
arahel_jazz raises to 1,500
STRIPERFJH calls 1,000
*** TURN *** [Th 3c 4d] [2c]
arahel_jazz checks
STRIPERFJH checks
*** RIVER *** [Th 3c 4d 2c] [Td]
arahel_jazz bets 4,000
STRIPERFJH calls 4,000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
arahel_jazz shows [3d Qs] two pair, Tens and Threes
STRIPERFJH shows [Ts Jc] three of a kind, Tens
STRIPERFJH wins the pot (12,250) with three of a kind, Tens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 12,250 | Rake 0
Board: [Th 3c 4d 2c Td]
Seat 1: dontcodeNJ didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: JCR38 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: eulin08 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: STRIPERFJH (button) showed [Ts Jc] and won (12,250) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 7: cantonis (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: arahel_jazz (big blind) showed [3d Qs] and lost with two pair, Tens and Threes
Seat 9: Fred Flintoff didn't bet (folded)

 

[cjatud2012]

lol why did he flat the river? n00bs

either way, sounds like you know you need to stop the FPS and focus on value betting, basic blind-stealing, etc., which are the most profitable strategies for micro's.

 

[Logan2]

Arggggggg

Have lost 3 times 80/20 this morning.

QQvs99
KKvsTT
TTvs77

It sucks to read they have a weaker hand and still not work.

Cashed in 2 so far but should be 5 by now.

 

[Marginal]

How many sngs do you guys and gals average per day?

 

[cjatud2012]

On a good day maybe like 20-25, but 10-15 sounds more like average for me. ps I'm not a volume freak by any means.

 

[Marginal]

So you 4 to 6 table?

 

[cjatud2012]

6-8, I hope to be at 10 by the end of the month (although PLO is robbing most of my SNG time atm).

 

[Marginal]

And you just play regular sngs, not superturbos?

 

[cjatud2012]

Turbos but not superturbos. I don't think I could go back to regular speed at this point.

 

[dg1267]

I try to get in 30 per day, but usually only 24. I 6 table the regular 9 mans.

 

[arahel_jazz]

Arggggggg

Have lost 3 times 80/20 this morning.

QQvs99
KKvsTT
TTvs77

It sucks to read they have a weaker hand and still not work.

Cashed in 2 so far but should be 5 by now.

You too, eh?

TT vs 77 in the freeroll (7 on flop)
TT vs JJ in a 3.30 KO (both T and J on flop) <- Ok, so it wasn't an 80/20 preflop
55 vs 68 current MTT ... (5 on flop vs toyota straight)

 

[cardplayer52]

i'm doing the bare minumum to get iron this month(as for now anyway). thats 32games a day. thats 2 sessions of 16 tables. if or when i'm totally rolled for the $11s thn i may play continuous sessions. i've been trying to get some 90man KO's in as well.

 

[Logan2]

You too, eh?

TT vs 77 in the freeroll (7 on flop)
TT vs JJ in a 3.30 KO (both T and J on flop) <- Ok, so it wasn't an 80/20 preflop
55 vs 68 current MTT ... (5 on flop vs toyota straight)

Yea and keeps going AK vs KQ, QQ-A3, and in the freebie A9 vs QT, he raise 3bb with 19bb, i shove 16bb and still call, bummer.

I think will take a break and comeback in the night.

 

[OzExorcist]

How many sngs do you guys and gals average per day?

15-20, six-tabling turbos

 

[cjatud2012]

You guys do realize that by nature there are more showdowns in SNG's and therefore your hands won't hold as often? I mean, it still sucks, but just sayin'.

 

[arahel_jazz]

You guys do realize that by nature there are more showdowns in SNG's and therefore your hands won't hold as often? I mean, it still sucks, but just sayin'.

There are more showdowns in micro-stakes SnG's for sure. Most of these that we are whining about were actually pre/post flop where we get our money in good, yet get gobsmacked by the 20%-ers. Yeah, its just variance that just happens to put us on the wrong side of the fishing pole (like TT vs 77). I'm sure we have our fair share of good hits, but we don't complain about those.

Problem is that it seems to come in waves. I ran really good all week until today. My issue is that I play maybe 3-5 SnG's a day due to time constraints. Variance tends to run my day more often than not as I don't have a large enough sample size to judge against.

 

[cjatud2012]

It's not just in micros though, it happens at all stakes. People who are considered to be crushing the $60's or the $119's have ROI's of like 2% or 3%, just because of all the variance due to the constant showdowns.

But yeah, it's really discouraging to have bad sessions, I totally agree. It's what makes SNG's so tough, whether you play just a little or you play tons of volume.

 

[cardplayer52]

You guys do realize that by nature there are more showdowns in SNG's and therefore your hands won't hold as often? I mean, it still sucks, but just sayin'.

totally standard happens all day long.


***** Hand History for Game 23630746304 ***** (Full Tilt)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 05, 02:02:32 ET 2010
Table 10 1 Sit Go (182743781) Table 1 (real money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: JJ PITT ( $3220.00 USD )
Seat 5: gangien ( $1400.00 USD )
Seat 6: cardplayer52 ( $8880.00 USD )
gangien posts small blind [$100.00 USD].
cardplayer52 posts big blind [$200.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to cardplayer52 [ Td Tc ]
JJ PITT calls [$200.00 USD]
gangien calls [$100.00 USD]
cardplayer52 raises [$8680.00 USD]
JJ PITT calls [$3020.00 USD]
gangien folds
cardplayer52 shows [Td, Tc ]
JJ PITT shows [Ad, Ts ]
cardplayer52 wins $5660.00 USD
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, Th, As ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
JJ PITT wins $6640.00 USD from main pot

 

[WiZZiM]

I know you guys are mostly tilt fiends. But anyone who is on stars, have you tried the new features? They have introduced something that table ninja used to do, it's to do with new tourneys stealing focus. They introduced their own, but it sucks! it's costing me a lot of time, and it's really annoying me, about to email them now. Just wondering if anyone who stacks is having the same problem.

 

[WiZZiM]

I know you guys are mostly tilt fiends. But anyone who is on stars, have you tried the new features? They have introduced something that table ninja used to do, it's to do with new tourneys stealing focus. They introduced their own, but it sucks! it's costing me a lot of time, and it's really annoying me, about to email them now. Just wondering if anyone who stacks is having the same problem.

Cured. thank you table ninja, up yours pokerstars!

 

[cardplayer52]

Cured. thank you table ninja, up yours pokerstars!

have you tried the hayguys xbox controller thing. i thought you were using it but not sure. it's supposed to take care of all of those focus stealing issues like the one when you get KO'ed from a game. i just watched a video on CR where sippin_cris uses it it seems solid. and him using it makes me think its worth it if you grind stars.

 

[Logan2]

Problem is that it seems to come in waves. I ran really good all week until today. My issue is that I play maybe 3-5 SnG's a day due to time constraints. Variance tends to run my day more often than not as I don't have a large enough sample size to judge against.

This...

In week days play less, yesterday have the chance to play 12 games, should cash in half of them but ended cashing in only 3, and hurts when go in with the best, but is just the game, is a new day hope things work well.

GL.

 

[WiZZiM]

have you tried the hayguys xbox controller thing. i thought you were using it but not sure. it's supposed to take care of all of those focus stealing issues like the one when you get KO'ed from a game. i just watched a video on CR where sippin_cris uses it it seems solid. and him using it makes me think its worth it if you grind stars.

Hmmm nope, never heard of it actually. I'll probably be switching to tilt soon anyway, but i will definately look into it, i've heard a lot of guys use those game controllers to play. I've worked out a way to do it pretty well using table ninja now, i just use a function which can cylcle me through to the first table in line, worked well last night.

i know you can setup something similiar on tilt, so im definately getting it setup