Ragonesi
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Freeroll is a space for beginners to learn and practice without compromising earnings, as you said you are in a different level of life and can afford high stakes and I assume bad beats... It becomes waste time when you dont know what you are doing with it
franken222
Visionary
Bronze Level
Most of my time, now, is spent on freerolls.
It's an easy way to make a few $$$, and you can use them for buy-ins.
Over the years, I've had two really good results that way.
In the first instance, I saved up enough to enter a tournament on Paradise Poker (remember them?). I won it, and won 900 Euros.
In the second instance, I entered a tournament in party poker, and won $950.00. (came 3rd).
Those were the best two, all because of freerolls.
I've had other cash-ins, but those are by far, the best.
It's an easy way to make a few $$$, and you can use them for buy-ins.
Over the years, I've had two really good results that way.
In the first instance, I saved up enough to enter a tournament on Paradise Poker (remember them?). I won it, and won 900 Euros.
In the second instance, I entered a tournament in party poker, and won $950.00. (came 3rd).
Those were the best two, all because of freerolls.
I've had other cash-ins, but those are by far, the best.
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Arnakk2424
Rock Star
Bronze Level
There are 3 types of freeroll players imo. The first one will make the second types soon if he is half good and the second one will turn into the third one
First one is the type of players that only play freeroll, its a hobby and dont want spend money.
They actually know the schedule of multiple freerolls on different room. Believe it or not its a really easy way to learn multi tabling.
The second type is the one that did win some money. He match his schedule to play the money he earned during the time his favorites freeroll
The third type is the one that doesnt match his schedule for freeroll but if one of them occur he will play them.
For the main question, its hard to understand ? What is wasting time ?
A World of Warcraft player that spend times in dungeon to get an item ? He is not spending time he is playing a game.
Same for Poker, its an hobby (for some peoples) and its a type of hobbies that can be very frustrating. What if I bought legos and at the end.... Sorry dude, missing parts, try another one.
The point is, if feel you are wasting time, maybe dont play it
TCHUCO2005
Visionary
Platinum Level
kanogott
Visionary
Platinum Level
My bankroll is completly built by freerolls. I think you could learn alot in freeroll, similar to normal buyin tourney. You must difference between only 0,1% winning spot freerolls were mor than thousand players are involved and only 5 or less winning spots. These tourneys are extremly part of luck, but in the end not only luck could win some tickets or money. I crushed one of those and get a ticket and in these taregt tourney i win a seat for the 109 dollar tourney. Because of lesse people this tourney was delete and i get 109 in tourney money. With these money i get second in 2 dollar tourney for 460 dollar. The conclusion of it every freeroll at least with a 0,1 % chance for a ticket could build your bankroll.
speper
Rock Star
Bronze Level
In the beginning, the free courses are good for learning poker and benefiting from some experience, but I do not recommend them for more than four months, and then enter the courses with money, even if a small amount each month, such as $ 50 to win and learn, and why not win a monthly income
Claudiunm
Legend
Platinum Level
Friend, don't spit on the plate you eat.
Freerolls are a great thermometer to see how your game is doing. The whole point is that people are less committed to freerolls. But here's the question:
If you can discipline yourself playing freerolls, you're ready for the cash tables. A 4~6 hour non-stop tournament is very tiring. If you don't have the psychological structure to face it, you're going to lose. The freeroll is the ideal place to prepare yourself psychologically.
Of course there are freerolls out there that are an endless shootout and in these it's very difficult to come up with a prize worth the time spent. But the ones here at CardsChat and a few others that for ethics I won't mention here are worth playing.
rock0001
Legend
Bronze Level
technically speaking it wouldnt be wasted hours if you finished in the money....i have spent many hours playing freerolls and the good thing is that they will always be +ev in the long run because you are not spending any money by playing them.
BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch
Visionary
Bronze Level
I would say its a waste of time if you're a winning player. I've never liked putting money on poker sites so I do freerolls. I'm trying to get back to playing on a regular basis and more importantly start studying the games like I used to but I still don't want to hang out at the casino as I'm about to get "another" booster shot here soon and I can't get around like I used to anyway.
The quality isn't there in any of the freerolls I have played except for 1 Cardschat omaha8 tourn over on PStars back in January that was part of the on going series that Cardschat is still sponsoring where for the most part, folks at the table had a clue what they were doing. Like if they were going low had A2xx and not A4 or worse but some still fell in love with an awful AA97 or KK38 or some dreadful hand that doesn't play both ways but for the most part they tried and it was fun but that's not the case with the other freerolls I've played. Think that was one of a hand full of tables in the 150+ tourns I've played in the Cardschat freerolls and with the site's freerolls to say that the folks were trying and cared about the game.
But for the most part these folks will try to turn the games into a bingo session. Its all about a "Kill Phil" game all in preflop and stealing the blinds and as someone that used to make a living playing low stakes live cash games years and years and years ago, lol, I'm not thrilled about the plays. There are a few folks that I marked and Im hoping to play against but I usually end up with a table full of aggressive donks or calling stations or like a mix in between.
I was so turned off by the plays of these folks yesterday with not even knowing basic starting hands to the all in with Ace x in the beginning of a tourn with a huge amount of blinds, an aggressive player betting and bluffing into a calling station that's not giving up middle pair and the aggressor has Ace high and you know they're a calling station by them playing like every hand in the tourn up to that point lol, or calling stations calling someone that hasn't played 1 hand in 30 minutes and all of sudden raises big time preflop or folks dominating a board betting hard into someone while having a board totally dominated and not giving their opponent a chance to catch up for a larger pay off then of all things, flipping over their hand showing they had the board dominated like they've never done that before,lol, folks going after the sit outs blind with nothing, or just the fact there were sit outs in these tourns was annoying. I just had to stop playing and played some bots over at APT. It was god awful, lol but to them its their thing and if they can win with it then god bless them.
It was the third time I had someone from the Cardschat community tell me you don't know what you're talking about and you're coming off as know it all. I wasn't derogatory or insulting but the plays were ugh, and it was common sense, nothing from the 30 day course here at Cardschat required, if you cared about the game wouldn't do that stuff just awful. Was really hoping for one table in a blue moon where someone isn't calling someone down for a big chunk of their stack when they don't need to with 5 high, lol. Like lets get a game going. AND WHAT REALLY ANNOYED ME WAS THAT IF THEY PLAYED SERIOUSLY THEN THE QUALITY OF THE GAME IS SO MUCH BETTER, THE GAMES WOULD ACTUALLY BE FUN!!!
I played them in the Cardschat freeroll today and played the APT bots while having the Cardschat freeroll off in the background. Didn't chat, didn't really play. And I won't use the chat anymore in the Cardschat freerolls, ever again learned my lesson. Wont help them, wont give feedback let them figure it out. I've learned they don't care anyway. They think by winning a freeroll of 100 people that they've figured it out so let them go about their business. Win their money and go play 500+ people in a tourn for about 4-5 hours just to cash or higher quality folks in SNGs then lose everything and start back in the freerolls all over again, so whatever, lol. They'll wisen up or I'll get more posts of poker is all luck or why did my JJ or QQ or AA get cracked nonsense.
So yeah, if you want to go down the Ferguson Challenge route then go for it but for some folks its a waste of time and only under certain circumstances should you even bother with it. If you're starting out they're are a good option, but please take the freeroll seriously and take it as a learning experience and not "ME WIN MONEY, ME GOOD, ME FIGURED IT ALL OUT" beating about 120 folks. in only 2 hours, lol. And you don't want to spend years playing folks that have trouble playing flops or the latter streets and avoid half of the game by just shoving, lol. You will not grow as a player.
The quality isn't there in any of the freerolls I have played except for 1 Cardschat omaha8 tourn over on PStars back in January that was part of the on going series that Cardschat is still sponsoring where for the most part, folks at the table had a clue what they were doing. Like if they were going low had A2xx and not A4 or worse but some still fell in love with an awful AA97 or KK38 or some dreadful hand that doesn't play both ways but for the most part they tried and it was fun but that's not the case with the other freerolls I've played. Think that was one of a hand full of tables in the 150+ tourns I've played in the Cardschat freerolls and with the site's freerolls to say that the folks were trying and cared about the game.
But for the most part these folks will try to turn the games into a bingo session. Its all about a "Kill Phil" game all in preflop and stealing the blinds and as someone that used to make a living playing low stakes live cash games years and years and years ago, lol, I'm not thrilled about the plays. There are a few folks that I marked and Im hoping to play against but I usually end up with a table full of aggressive donks or calling stations or like a mix in between.
I was so turned off by the plays of these folks yesterday with not even knowing basic starting hands to the all in with Ace x in the beginning of a tourn with a huge amount of blinds, an aggressive player betting and bluffing into a calling station that's not giving up middle pair and the aggressor has Ace high and you know they're a calling station by them playing like every hand in the tourn up to that point lol, or calling stations calling someone that hasn't played 1 hand in 30 minutes and all of sudden raises big time preflop or folks dominating a board betting hard into someone while having a board totally dominated and not giving their opponent a chance to catch up for a larger pay off then of all things, flipping over their hand showing they had the board dominated like they've never done that before,lol, folks going after the sit outs blind with nothing, or just the fact there were sit outs in these tourns was annoying. I just had to stop playing and played some bots over at APT. It was god awful, lol but to them its their thing and if they can win with it then god bless them.
It was the third time I had someone from the Cardschat community tell me you don't know what you're talking about and you're coming off as know it all. I wasn't derogatory or insulting but the plays were ugh, and it was common sense, nothing from the 30 day course here at Cardschat required, if you cared about the game wouldn't do that stuff just awful. Was really hoping for one table in a blue moon where someone isn't calling someone down for a big chunk of their stack when they don't need to with 5 high, lol. Like lets get a game going. AND WHAT REALLY ANNOYED ME WAS THAT IF THEY PLAYED SERIOUSLY THEN THE QUALITY OF THE GAME IS SO MUCH BETTER, THE GAMES WOULD ACTUALLY BE FUN!!!
I played them in the Cardschat freeroll today and played the APT bots while having the Cardschat freeroll off in the background. Didn't chat, didn't really play. And I won't use the chat anymore in the Cardschat freerolls, ever again learned my lesson. Wont help them, wont give feedback let them figure it out. I've learned they don't care anyway. They think by winning a freeroll of 100 people that they've figured it out so let them go about their business. Win their money and go play 500+ people in a tourn for about 4-5 hours just to cash or higher quality folks in SNGs then lose everything and start back in the freerolls all over again, so whatever, lol. They'll wisen up or I'll get more posts of poker is all luck or why did my JJ or QQ or AA get cracked nonsense.
So yeah, if you want to go down the Ferguson Challenge route then go for it but for some folks its a waste of time and only under certain circumstances should you even bother with it. If you're starting out they're are a good option, but please take the freeroll seriously and take it as a learning experience and not "ME WIN MONEY, ME GOOD, ME FIGURED IT ALL OUT" beating about 120 folks. in only 2 hours, lol. And you don't want to spend years playing folks that have trouble playing flops or the latter streets and avoid half of the game by just shoving, lol. You will not grow as a player.
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JhonnyThe357
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Whether it's wasteful or not, it's something very subjective, in my case I don't consider it waste on occasions when I play focused, after all I have the experience. However, I respect the opinion that is contrary to mine.
Have a good game!
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Have a good game!
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FlushKings311
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Freerolls
Freerolls are great wait to learn the game. Build your confidence without losing anything other than your time. I still play them on evenings when maybe I'm a little tired or distracted and I don't want to invest knowing my heads not in the game
Freerolls are great wait to learn the game. Build your confidence without losing anything other than your time. I still play them on evenings when maybe I'm a little tired or distracted and I don't want to invest knowing my heads not in the game
10gerka
Visionary
Platinum Level
freerolls are very good, they help you gain experience in the game and also you win money without investing anything, so you have to invest time, but you also have to know which freeroll to play to make it worthwhile, the free tournaments with less than 400 players where it is worth it, but there are others with more than 2000 players where it is almost impossible to get very far, although in poker anything can happen.
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Cooking
Legend
Platinum Level
Of course if I'm going to think of how much money I win per hour playing freerolls it's not going to worth my time, because I win much more working on my regular job. But I usually play freerolls in my free time when I would be probably watching TV, so, I think it's worth it.
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mecke28
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Freeroll tournaments
The poker site I play at no longer offers freeroll tournaments unless it's from private groups offering freerolls.
Does the freeroll tournaments offer late registration?
If it was me snd there's late registration I would play in those tournaments.
The poker site I play at no longer offers freeroll tournaments unless it's from private groups offering freerolls.
Does the freeroll tournaments offer late registration?
If it was me snd there's late registration I would play in those tournaments.
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