Hello players!
The world of poker is like the "sea" no matter how much you study and keep up to date, it's always on the move.
In my opinion and in the face of various reports from professionals and studies I decided to adopt a very aggressive posture. However I'm not sure if being aggressive is so advantageous, I have noticed the increase in players who play in a very passive way entering several hands of lmp and flat and adopting a calling station with draws but also doing slow play with the premium range, "bringing a balance of range in this sense.
I would like to know your opinion and also ask what is the best way to play against calling stations and slow players?

Everything you say is true, but how to meet all the players when playing online is impossible. I am not a great player, I speak for my results but in each tournament, in each hand you will find opponents that you don't even know how they are going to play. Throughout my experience I see poker as a tetrk you have to order the pieces if you make a mistake in a hand you have to rearrange the pieces to reach the end

Originally Posted by casique31

Everything you say is true, but how to meet all the players when playing online is impossible. I am not a great player, I speak for my results but in each tournament, in each hand you will find opponents that you don't even know how they are going to play. Throughout my experience I see poker as a tetrk you have to order the pieces if you make a mistake in a hand you have to rearrange the pieces to reach the end

yes it is true, but the question: how to play against passive callingstations?

Originally Posted by I Live Poker

yes it is true, but the question: how to play against passive callingstations?

I tend to find that betting the river after firing on stop and turn is important they will tend to call your first two bets and hope you shut down on the river

Originally Posted by I Live Poker

yes it is true, but the question: how to play against passive callingstations?

I used to play slow and passive and I've called the first two bet and almost always fold on the river with less than 2 pair so betting all 3 streets sometimes is crucial

If you have that kind of opponent, you need to bet strong, and bet only when you have hand, no bluffing, those people call you with their third pair. It’s a only way. Every thing else leads to loosing chips.

Aggression wins in poker. That is why TAG and LAG are considered playing styles but there is no "passive " playing style. If you are limping, calling a lot, and making minimum bets, it does catch up with you. You certainly aren't winning. Strong players are going to exploit this.

When you see players limping on 4-5 hands an orbit you just need to bet your hands. The math will take care of them, but you really need to use caution.

LAG is a style because if you have AK the villain is 40/60. Pretty close to a coin flip. While you could feel "i finally got him" you do run the risk of running into things like a weak 2 pair, low flush, or odd straight.

It certainly is always better to play your normal game and normal betting lines you have success with rather than change when facing one certain player.

Originally Posted by vsausto1990

I used to play slow and passive and I've called the first two bet and almost always fold on the river with less than 2 pair so betting all 3 streets sometimes is crucial

Well this has not worked for me, I usually use the 3 barrel

Originally Posted by popstani

If you have that kind of opponent, you need to bet strong, and bet only when you have hand, no bluffing, those people call you with their third pair. It’s a only way. Every thing else leads to loosing chips.

It makes sense, but either way they force you to keep your range out of balance ... that's pretty bad.
So you draw the move for them ... you never play and when you enter aggressive and with very high sizes they give up ... I still see more advantage in playing like them ...

I would tone down the aggression against calling stations. Bet for value when you have something. Check it down when you don't. If you're going to bluff do it on the river when they know they don't have any more cards coming to save them.

To be honest, I completely agree with Colino17
Such players do not know the fold option, so you need to play against them with your premium hands, and get to the maximum, on all the streets. The main thing is to determine such a player correctly, and disciplinedly monitor what you are going to play with.

Originally Posted by I Live Poker

Hello players!
The world of poker is like the "sea" no matter how much you study and keep up to date, it's always on the move.
In my opinion and in the face of various reports from professionals and studies I decided to adopt a very aggressive posture. However I'm not sure if being aggressive is so advantageous, I have noticed the increase in players who play in a very passive way entering several hands of lmp and flat and adopting a calling station with draws but also doing slow play with the premium range, "bringing a balance of range in this sense.
I would like to know your opinion and also ask what is the best way to play against calling stations and slow players?

Just about calling stations, as I really hate to play against them, even they pay out, but they are the ones whose take me down on the river most often. As I did not really have better idea, if I already know about an opponent for sure, that he is coming even for 2-4 outs till the river, I play totally differently, try to put him allin, as soon as possible, even with a top pair, do not mention if I have nuts. Raise nearly pot, sometimes even over that, as most of the time they put me for bluff or just have no idea about probability, generally the game, or who knows whatever else they think. It works fine, I lose the same percentage against them, but they really pay out, I can double up on them, not only win a small part of their stack.

Originally Posted by dominisantus

To be honest, I completely agree with Colino17
Such players do not know the fold option, so you need to play against them with your premium hands, and get to the maximum, on all the streets. The main thing is to determine such a player correctly, and disciplinedly monitor what you are going to play with.

Yes, but in the same way it is still complicated, because even playing premium hands like AA KK QQ you will not always be winning along the streets. So it is a complicated situation to play aggressively still.
Because you will not bluff, while they are looking at all the flops. When you enter with force they can simply give up on account of your image.
(unbalanced range)
And yet there is the question that they may also be playing slow with good hands like two pair and flop sets. Very complicated

Originally Posted by Adi8877

Just about calling stations, as I really hate to play against them, even they pay out, but they are the ones whose take me down on the river most often. As I did not really have better idea, if I already know about an opponent for sure, that he is coming even for 2-4 outs till the river, I play totally differently, try to put him allin, as soon as possible, even with a top pair, do not mention if I have nuts. Raise nearly pot, sometimes even over that, as most of the time they put me for bluff or just have no idea about probability, generally the game, or who knows whatever else they think. It works fine, I lose the same percentage against them, but they really pay out, I can double up on them, not only win a small part of their stack.

Yes true. Thank you for your message!

Aggressive poker game means that you will place bets and rearrange the bets of other players when you have an advantage over them. Advantage means you have stronger cards, better position, or experience. Aggression in poker works for you only when you use it in a sober mind and carefully choose the right situations for it.

Originally Posted by I Live Poker

yes it is true, but the question: how to play against passive callingstations?

In my opinion there is no precise scheme to eliminate calling stations - they usually do it themselves. The tight aggressive player will only play premium hands anyway and they will also play them aggressively with high raises or 3-bets preflop and sufficiently large bets on flop, turn and river. The loose aggressive players have a wider hand range and also play medium pairs, connectors and suited connectors in the right context. Finally when a calling station pays all bets on the flop, turn and river with - for example - bottom pair will certainly lose all chips against opponents top pair at some time, the same will happen if they play with suited cards and running for a flush which does not happen always, they lose their all-in bluff on the river against opponents top pair, 2 pairs or a flopped set. A calling station may win a lot of chips in the early phase by gambling or bluffing but lose all chips later if not being able to change the style of play.

You have to play both sometimes, react to your opulent!

I World say it is much harder today.

everything must be balanced, and it is necessary to select chances and opponents for aggression and for loose play.

Never bluff against a calling station and hold back with semi-bluffs. Your opponent folds too seldom. If you have a good hand then bet. Don't play on bluffinduce because the calling station rarely bluffs. Bet with medium-strong hands because the calling station often finds a reason to call with even worse hands. Play your draws passively because the calling station often gives you free cards. When the calling station raises it usually has a monster.

With an aggressive style of play you often win a lot of small pots, but you also lose a large pot if you often overplay your cards. No Limit is a game that lives from an aggressive style of play. But you have to choose carefully the situation in which you play aggressively. Play tight but when you play play aggressively.

Originally Posted by casique31

Tudo o que você diz é verdade, mas como conhecer todos os jogadores quando joga online é impossível. Eu não sou um grande jogador, falo pelos meus resultados, mas em cada torneio, em cada mão você vai encontrar adversários que você nem sabe como eles vão jogar. Ao longo da minha experiência eu vejo o poker como um tetrk você tem que pedir as peças se você cometer um erro em uma mão você tem que reorganizar as peças para chegar ao final

I try to play the same way, always in balance, but it is very difficult to hold the tilt, when I take a bad beat

Originally Posted by Zirkzee

With an aggressive style of play you often win a lot of small pots, but you also lose a large pot if you often overplay your cards. No Limit is a game that lives from an aggressive style of play. But you have to choose carefully the situation in which you play aggressively. Play tight but when you play play aggressively.

Thanks for the answers! Simple and true!

In my opinion, poker hasn’t changed much in years.It has long been a fact that only aggressive play is profitable.When you meet a lot of passive players, you only play aggressively against them!

One of my biggest problems is not opening my range and three betting more late in tournaments.

The damn thing is I know I should do it, but have the hardest time pulling the trigger.

i also love to play aggressive . but the problem is that i get sucked out by 1-4 outers so often etc. that i have become a scared and cautious player

I am not a very aggressive player, although I think that I play aggressive or passive depending on each situation and with my little experience I do not think it is convenient to always play aggressive many times I choose how to play when I have a certain time playing against the same players, my strategy against this type of player is to be patient, wait for the right moment and follow my instincts

Originally Posted by Austria7

In my opinion there is no precise scheme to eliminate calling stations - they usually do it themselves. The tight aggressive player will only play premium hands anyway and they will also play them aggressively with high raises or 3-bets preflop and sufficiently large bets on flop, turn and river. The loose aggressive players have a wider hand range and also play medium pairs, connectors and suited connectors in the right context. Finally when a calling station pays all bets on the flop, turn and river with - for example - bottom pair will certainly lose all chips against opponents top pair at some time, the same will happen if they play with suited cards and running for a flush which does not happen always, they lose their all-in bluff on the river against opponents top pair, 2 pairs or a flopped set. A calling station may win a lot of chips in the early phase by gambling or bluffing but lose all chips later if not being able to change the style of play.

yes I understand your point of view and it is valid, but remember you are having a very one-sided view, TAG players will also make the same move with some bluffs using your image, so soon it is not the style that should vary but the balance between values ​​and bluff in the style he plays, when you change your style of play it will be easier for you to fumble with what you are doing than to fiddle with your opponent. The same is true for LAG players, they will actually have a wider range of hands that will enter, but the values ​​they will play in the same way is what makes opponents confuse and not change the style. For example, a lag player increases all the time playing against me, when he decides to play passively I already notice that there is something wrong and I give up on the hand, I think you should better evaluate your reading about players, do not confuse LAG with fish or TAG with NIT think that improving the identification of your opponents will make your life much easier. And the question that does not want to be silenced how to play against calling staions?

Originally Posted by mariale_1990

I am not a very aggressive player, although I think that I play aggressive or passive depending on each situation and with my little experience I do not think it is convenient to always play aggressive many times I choose how to play when I have a certain time playing against the same players, my strategy against this type of player is to be patient, wait for the right moment and follow my instincts

I understand is valid. but I leave my opinion on changing style in a reply above for our other friend to read if interested. Just an idea follow your instincts to never give up to pay or jam

A valuable skill is too learn how to be both, as the situation dictates. You can easily "trick" people into believing you are a loose canon, and then switch gears.

Originally Posted by I Live Poker

Hello players!
The world of poker is like the "sea" no matter how much you study and keep up to date, it's always on the move.
In my opinion and in the face of various reports from professionals and studies I decided to adopt a very aggressive posture. However I'm not sure if being aggressive is so advantageous, I have noticed the increase in players who play in a very passive way entering several hands of lmp and flat and adopting a calling station with draws but also doing slow play with the premium range, "bringing a balance of range in this sense.
I would like to know your opinion and also ask what is the best way to play against calling stations and slow players?

In my opinion, it will be correct to adjust to the apponet . It is this quality that allows you to mislead him and eventually outplay him sooner or later..For example, when he will think that you are bluffing and in fact not. Aggression still has to come if you want to win the tournament .

the main thing is to understand how to play further on the board and use your style in +, if you see that your style is profitable, use it!

Originally Posted by I Live Poker

Hello players!
The world of poker is like the "sea" no matter how much you study and keep up to date, it's always on the move.
In my opinion and in the face of various reports from professionals and studies I decided to adopt a very aggressive posture. However I'm not sure if being aggressive is so advantageous, I have noticed the increase in players who play in a very passive way entering several hands of lmp and flat and adopting a calling station with draws but also doing slow play with the premium range, "bringing a balance of range in this sense.
I would like to know your opinion and also ask what is the best way to play against calling stations and slow players?

Good day!
I think it's best to play against phone players with a good hand and postflop, when you hit the table well, catch and squeeze the most out of them!
Against passive players, it is more loose to play, since they will still defend little and fold cards.
Good luck at the tables!

The aggressive regular to your left will always have a big advantage over you in each hand, as he will act last. In other words, he will first see your action before accepting his own.
You will make all your decisions blindly, without the slightest understanding of how your opponent will react. And this is too big a handicap for your opponent to overcome.
Moreover, you will not play against fish, but against another reg, who will probably be not very far from you in terms of skill level, and therefore, your edge will be minimal.
Once you start playing with regs, you will forget about the main reason why you are sitting at this table, because of the fish! And this is a disaster.
Thus, with all of the above, it is very important to be able to maintain calm and sanity and avoid the so-called "reg wars". Even if you win one battle, you will still lose the entire war.