Right odds to call?

[arahel_jazz]

9 player SnG. Villan is a bit laggy. I'm wondering if I have the right odds to call...

full tilt poker Game #5389649221: $1 + $0.25 Sit & Go (41000452), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:45:27 ET - 2008/02/24
Seat 1: Slash Dragoon (5,935)
Seat 2: thedalbey63 (1,590)
Seat 8: sweetpea415 (4,665)
Seat 9: arahel_jazz (1,310)
sweetpea415 posts the small blind of 30
arahel_jazz posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to arahel_jazz [8c Ac]
Slash Dragoon calls 60
thedalbey63 folds
sweetpea415 calls 30
arahel_jazz checks
*** FLOP *** [Js 9s Kc]
sweetpea415 checks
arahel_jazz bets 60
Slash Dragoon raises to 120
sweetpea415 folds
arahel_jazz calls 60
*** TURN *** [Js 9s Kc] [Tc]
arahel_jazz checks
Slash Dragoon bets 240
arahel_jazz ...


Forget the fact that I probably shouldn't have called his min raise.
I have flush draw, possible A, possible straight draw.

Raise or call?

 

[t1riel]

Call. You're beat right now but you have a lot of outs to beat whatever he's holding. I would get check/fold if a club or a queen doesn't come.

 

[CrackaNACtion]

id diffently Call also. u got many many outs. plus itll put u in good positon if u double :0

 

[Bartalos]

deffinittelly call

 

[shinedown.45]

It's a call, you have a dozen outs here, 16 if he's not holding any Q.
I think the odds are right.

 

[King Robi]

i think it is a clearly call

 

[dj11]

I don't think it is 'clearly' a call. The hands you are playing against that make sense as far as the betting story goes might be AQ, KQ. AQ kills you unless the straightening Q hits, and murders u if the 7 hits. Can't count the 7's as outs.

Your flush draw is the most promising. Pot is 660, call 240 = 3 to 1. Not good enuf for the pure flush draw.

I think no, not good enuf odds to call here against what appears to be a made hand.

 

[arahel_jazz]

5 votes call. 1 vote fold.

Well DJ certainly had the right read, but I went ahead and called it anyway. With only 4 of us left and 3 paid ITM, I felt I had the best chance of cashing was to double up right here.

I called $240.
River was the best card I could get: 5c
I checked,
Villan went all-in.
I insta-called. (with a minor fist-pump - after checking no pairs on board)
Villan showed AdAs.

I showed the flush and took down a nice double. Went on to cash in 2nd. He went on to donk out in 4th.
The poker Gods smiled on my meager bankroll that day.

 

[alan1983]

Why would you minibet the flop? You had nothing there, and plenty of cards that hit everyone else.

Thats just throwing money away. You lucked out and had a draw on turn and hit it, but if you keep betting for no reason, youre gonna end up losing.

 

[momoney2]

I would call.
Pretty good pot odds 660:240 (2.75:1). Implied odds should get you some more.
I give you 12 solid outs. 3 to the nut straight, 9 to the nut flush. I won't give you credit for the 3 Aces, because he could have 2-pair or a set or AK or AA. The last 2 would also remove the straight for the clean winner. So not counting the Aces balances out counting the 3 outs for the straight.
You still have a good amount of chips to work with if you miss on the river, since the blinds are not too high yet.