$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Betting too weakly with AA?

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full tilt poker Game #36059326634: $250 Weekly Freeroll (303591811), Table 302 - NL Hold'em - 250/500 Ante 50 - 02:04:21 EET - 2015/11/16 [19:04:21 ET - 2015/11/15]
Seat 1: TheArnie (9,210)
Seat 2: klopped78 (3,943)
Seat 3: jaivill (3,135)
Seat 4: dan4252 (15,751)
Seat 5: maqsimus79 (37,085)
Seat 6: turc49 (5,418), is sitting out
Seat 8: grinmer (21,975)
Seat 9: handssolosolo (2,721)
TheArnie antes 50
klopped78 antes 50
jaivill antes 50
dan4252 antes 50
maqsimus79 antes 50
turc49 antes 50
grinmer antes 50
TheArnie posts the small blind of 250
klopped78 posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheArnie [Ad As]
okolof sits down
jaivill folds
dan4252 calls 500
maqsimus79 calls 500
turc49 folds
grinmer folds
TheArnie raises to 1,000
klopped78 folds
dan4252 calls 500
maqsimus79 calls 500
*** FLOP *** [Qs Kh 5d] (Total Pot: 3,850, 3 Players)
TheArnie bets 1,500
dan4252 calls 1,500
maqsimus79 calls 1,500
*** TURN *** [Qs Kh 5d] 6♠ (Total Pot: 8,350, 3 Players)
TheArnie bets 2,000
dan4252 calls 2,000
maqsimus79 calls 2,000
*** RIVER *** [Qs Kh 5d 6s] [Ts] (Total Pot: 14,350, 3 Players)
TheArnie bets 4,660, and is all in
dan4252 has 15 seconds left to act
dan4252 folds
maqsimus79 calls 4,660
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TheArnie shows [Ad As] a pair of Aces
maqsimus79 shows [Jd Ac] a straight, Ace high
maqsimus79 wins the pot (23,670) with a straight, Ace high

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 23,670 | Rake 0
Board: [Qs Kh 5d 6s Ts]
Seat 1: TheArnie (small blind) showed [Ad As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: klopped78 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: jaivill folded before the Flop
Seat 4: dan4252 folded on the River
Seat 5: maqsimus79 showed [Jd Ac] and won (23,670) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 6: turc49 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: grinmer (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: handssolosolo is sitting out


Alright. So, I got dealt AA.
1. Pre-flop raise should have been 3BB instead of 2BB, but I have been varying these bet sizes so I can sometimes steal blinds for cheaper.
2. Flop IMO looked pretty good for me. There weren't open ended draws (besides someone holding JT pre, which, considering pre-flop size would be an easy call with JT), but I ignored this one. So I started value betting with intent to be all-in by the river.
3. Turn basically comes a blank. I keep betting.
4. River. Should this have rang alarm bells to me? If I'd fold, I'd still have a decent stack. Or going all-in was the correct move considering action before?

(To me it seems that mistakes before lead to failure in river, but I really would appreciate someone examining this hand from neutral POV)
 
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depending on table dynamics here i'd take one of 2 lines......

one line would be to just jam it in pre given the fact that 2 players have already limped in there's alot of dead money already in the pot and so you're stack would improve by roughly 4 BB's if you got no action but given it's a freeroll you'd probably get a caller and that is what you want to be in a 1 v 1 situation holding AA.

other line i may go for is to pop it up to about 3000 pre over the 2 limpers and jam every good flop.

you're min raise over the 2 limpers is awful, even a 3 BB raise would also be terrible as it gives too many players the correct odds to call and see a flop. i tend to lean towards a standard of 5 BB's + 1 BB for each limper,in this case it would mean raising to 3500, no need to be getting fancy with aces in a freeroll
 
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depending on table dynamics here i'd take one of 2 lines......

one line would be to just jam it in pre given the fact that 2 players have already limped in there's alot of dead money already in the pot and so you're stack would improve by roughly 4 BB's if you got no action but given it's a freeroll you'd probably get a caller and that is what you want to be in a 1 v 1 situation holding AA.

other line i may go for is to pop it up to about 3000 pre over the 2 limpers and jam every good flop.

you're min raise over the 2 limpers is awful, even a 3 BB raise would also be terrible as it gives too many players the correct odds to call and see a flop. i tend to lean towards a standard of 5 BB's + 1 BB for each limper,in this case it would mean raising to 3500, no need to be getting fancy with aces in a freeroll

Would you class this flop as dangerous for? aces? I justify my betting pre-flop so small so I can extract maximum of chips, while ready to fold if flop comes like JT9 with 2 cards of same suit.
 
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Flop bet the whole pot and play on whole stack.
 
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Would you class this flop as dangerous for? aces? I justify my betting pre-flop so small so I can extract maximum of chips, while ready to fold if flop comes like JT9 with 2 cards of same suit.


yes this is a good flop for jamming on but only if you've played preflop correctly, your justification is way off here because by betting so small preflop you are allowing every players range into the flop, those ranges will include KQ, 55, given its a freeroll you'll get players involved with Q5 and K5 also and at that point you will be behind, by raising large preflop you will be narrowing down the players to the flop which is what you want with aces and players ranges will be much more narrower.
 
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yes this is a good flop for jamming on but only if you've played preflop correctly, your justification is way off here because by betting so small preflop you are allowing every players range into the flop, those ranges will include KQ, 55, given its a freeroll you'll get players involved with Q5 and K5 also and at that point you will be behind, by raising large preflop you will be narrowing down the players to the flop which is what you want with aces and players ranges will be much more narrower.

Alright, this makes sense, thanks for feedback.
 
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