I can see your hole cards

2 look or not 2 look


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Divebitch

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I just played my 1st live tourney about 2 weeks ago, the lady to the left of me let me know she could see my cards, we were packed tight, it was hard to be careful, so i started lifting them back away then got faulted from the dealer for them going past the table edge, wasn't sure what to do then, I managed somehow. I think its just wrong if you didn't tell him.

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I would tell him because of the problems that will occur if all the other players find out your cheating....
 
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I have a poker etiquette question....

Playing at a brick and mortar casino, the guy to my left (peaking at his hole cards) inadvertently keeps raising his cards where I can see them. I don't think he knew that he was making it easy to see his cards.

I felt morally obligated to tell him but on the other side of the coin, if he is stupid enough to show his cards then he gets what he deserves.

What should I do in this situation? Tell the guy or keep this lucrative information to myself? What are your thoughts?

I think anything goes at the table to get an advantage, if someone is that stupid to show there hand well, once I bluffed some idiot, after the hand he said good bluff, I said thanks, a few hands later, just us left in the hand he asked me if I was bluffing again, I said yes I wasn't, and cleaned him out, he got all upset, and accused me of being unethical, called the pit boss, who laughed, and it was only a tenner tournament, what do you think.
 
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It IS actually a rule that your cards are not supposed to leave the playing surface/table.
That's right. If you watch the pro's they cup there card with both hands and lift the edge briefly to see what they have. Are we talking about Holdem or another poker game because if it's holdem and lifting there cards off the table at a casino then fair game. Sorry but they have no business sitting there. I do however have a conscience so after taking a couple bucks for there mistake I would probably tell them. Unless it was a little old lady then her moneys mine.lol:D
 
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I would say can you see my hole cards and if he says no then say well I can see yours after that you have warned him so its up to him
 
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next time you see someones hc's just act hillarioisly surprized if they are a great hand i.e kings or aces----LoL - but you should tell someone in a polite way. its moraly obliagationly correct to not think someone is that dumb
 
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Old people tend to show me their cards, I dont know why. They seem genuinely amused by it.

The ones that dont purposely show their cards, are like near blind or something and hold them up so I cant help but catch a glimpse, its like a natural reaction. Im not going to go out of my way to NOT look, your fault, not mine.

Ive had to say I can see your cards a few times, but usually I just give up (yes it happens alot).
 
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Good moral question. I would tell him after the 2nd time. That we everyone benefits. But I would defenitly let him know, just seems morally correct.;)
 
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in on-line games if u got cheat 2 see hole card's that is a problem...but in real life not 2 shure what i would do...take advantige of it or just make the other guy feel realy stupid for not even noticing.....Lol
 
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I could see the guy's cards that was playing next to me in the last live game I played. I told him, it really didn't occur to me to not tell him.
 
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I would tell them once as others have said to do. However, if the player in question didn't correct the problem once I'd made him aware, I'd probably make sure the rest of the table knew I could see his hole cards.

Like AG said though, no one's supposed to be picking their cards up off the table to look at them anyway. Cards should stay on the table.
 
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Good question. I ran into a guy like that when I played at Harrah's. It was a tournament game. The first time I saw the guy's cards, I didn't say anything.. thought it was an accident. I ended up folding my cards, anyways. The next hand, I felt obligated to tell him after I saw it, and he folded the hand pre-flop.
 
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I can see your hole cards.

I live in the UK, as we have a MORON for a Prime Minister, Iceland's got most of our money, I'm going to be taking any advantage I can get.
 
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I had an experience of this at an omaha 8/b & hold'em mixed tourney, guy couldn't seem to figure out how to look at his 4 cards without exposing his hand, didn't expose during hold'em though. As for my take on it, as long as you're not actively trying to see your opponents cards I don't see a problem with using any information you can gather at the table simply by being observant. He's responsible for protecting his own hand, you're not responsible for his actions so use whatever edge your opponent is offering. While it may be nice to tell him, since when is poker about being nice?
 
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I haven't run across this problem, but I would like to think that I would tell. I agree with one of the earlier responses that you actually cheating the entire field by having an unfair advantage.
 
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The only proper move is to show that person your cards also.
 
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Well poker was suppose to be a gentlemen sport so you should tell him. One things I don't like is cheaters. With that being said I would tell him myself.
 
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we were packed tight, it was hard to be careful, so i started lifting them back away then got faulted from the dealer for them going past the table edge, wasn't sure what to do then, I managed somehow
Don't ever lift your cards up off the table; depending on how strictly the house is run and how well the dealer pays attention, this will not only kill your hand instantly, but could also result in a penalty (at least in a tourney).

I play in a bar poker league.
Well, that just about says it . . . I know some people take these games seriously, but if you want a quick crash course in what NOT to do while playing poker, attending just about any bar tournament anywhere should suffice.

As to the OP:

One thing that no-one seems to have mentioned so far is actually the most important one, imho, and that's how all this has affected YOU and your play. Anything that takes your attention and focus away from your game is generally going to hurt you, and by focusing so much of your thought process on this one guy's cards and your internal "dilemma", who knows how many other opportunities, tells, etc. you were missing in the mean time? And besides, let's face it: knowing just one addtional set of hole cards isn't going to make much of a difference at a full table most of the time; the only time it'll give you significant edge is if you get this guy HU, and you'd still have to find the right cards, situation, and board to truly take advantage.

Anyway, my approach is to tell the dealer IMMEDIATELY so he/she can remind the player in question to protect his cards appropriately in a neutral manner -- that way there won't be any misunderstandings later on, and no-one at the table can claim that you or anyone else had an unfair advantage (including another player who may have been able to see this guy's cards). The same thing would go for someone lifting their cards up (if the dealer doesn't notice), showing them to a neighbor, railbird, etc. and similar violations (which occur quite often among regulars in b&m cash games, from my experience).
 
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I would tell him once and then if he keeps doing it it's his problem I guess
 
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i always tell them, people need to learn how to cover their cards, you dont have to lift them that far to see what you have. Just one corner lol.
 
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I live in the UK, as we have a MORON for a Prime Minister, Iceland's got most of our money, I'm going to be taking any advantage I can get.
Yer in a WORLD of hurt, Dude! Iceland just closed all their banks!
 
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If I accidentally see my opponents cards once, I won't say anything. But if it were something that was happening repeatedly and I would have to change the way I was sitting to avoid seeing his/her cards, then I would say something. I have accidentally seen my opponents cards on a few ocassions, but it has never been a situation where it has occurred repeatedly.
 
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Guy plays in my weekly game

next time you see someones hc's just act hillarioisly surprized if they are a great hand i.e kings or aces----LoL - but you should tell someone in a polite way. its moraly obliagationly correct to not think someone is that dumb


I tell him like everyother week; when he sits next to me; "hey man, Hide your cards better, I can see them!!" He allways looks at them the same way. OFF THE TABLE!!! geesh lol.
 
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Ok, I'm up for honesty and all but ummmm, the point is to take there money, or chips, right? Now telling them might may not decrease your chance of doing so, but why bother going through all the hard work when the hard part is already done for you?
 
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