I won $32 en the intertops freeroll , when I tried to play it, I couldnt, cause I have to make a deposit , and when I tried to withdraw it ( after sending Id pics ) I received this mail:
Dear FEDERICO, 
Thank you for choosing Intertops Poker.
This email is to inform you that your payout in the amount of US$ 32.00 via Moneybookers has been declined due to the following reason:
The stipulations on your Freeroll cash winnings of have not been met
Please see an excerpt of the rule below:
Terms and Conditions for Intertops Poker Freerolls:
50% of the Freeroll cash winnings have to be turned over as gross rake, before a player is eligible to withdraw these funds.
You are required to accumulate a total of US$ 16.40 in Gross rake and need a further US$ 16.40 before your payout can be processed.
We wish you best of luck on the tables.
Should you have questions, please feel free to contact us anytime.
Kind regards,
what do you think ?

That is pretty typical. You need to play some games other than freerolls in order to cash out. It is not just this site. I hope you do well.

Originally Posted by fededragon79

I won $32 en the intertops freeroll , when I tried to play it, I couldnt, cause I have to make a deposit , and when I tried to withdraw it ( after sending Id pics ) I received this mail:
Dear FEDERICO, 
Thank you for choosing Intertops Poker.
This email is to inform you that your payout in the amount of US$ 32.00 via Moneybookers has been declined due to the following reason:
The stipulations on your Freeroll cash winnings of have not been met
Please see an excerpt of the rule below:
Terms and Conditions for Intertops Poker Freerolls:
50% of the Freeroll cash winnings have to be turned over as gross rake, before a player is eligible to withdraw these funds.
You are required to accumulate a total of US$ 16.40 in Gross rake and need a further US$ 16.40 before your payout can be processed.
We wish you best of luck on the tables.
Should you have questions, please feel free to contact us anytime.
Kind regards,
what do you think ?

Quite fair conditions. Play tournaments for this money. There are good tournaments with a good structure.

yes, the problem is that I have to make a deposit to play this money. so this is not a FREEroll

Yes the terms are tough but some players have managed to get a withdrawal also $32 is way to little to withdraw as I think they have a $50 withdrawal fee that must be paid too if you manage to pay the right amount of rake good luck running it up it will be an uphill battle.
It is the only site that I have an account with that I play only one or two freerolls a year due to these restrictions.

Originally Posted by fededragon79

yes, the problem is that I have to make a deposit to play this money. so this is not a FREEroll

What's the problem with making a minimum deposit? Have no 10 dollars? And how are you going to withdraw funds if your payment method is not linked to an account?

Originally Posted by hugh blair

Yes the terms are tough but some players have managed to get a withdrawal also $32 is way to little to withdraw as I think they have a $50 withdrawal fee that must be paid too if you manage to pay the right amount of rake good luck running it up it will be an uphill battle.
It is the only site that I have an account with that I play only one or two freerolls a year due to these restrictions.

There are no fees for e-wallets.
In your opinion, is it unfair not to allow players to withdraw funds won only in freerolls, without wagering the rake? Put yourself in their shoes.
That $ 32 can be turned into $ 320 by making a pre-deposit and playing some tournaments there. Then calmly take them out. What's the point of withdrawing $ 32?
Use, for example, that $ 32 as a freeroll tickets - $ 2-5 per tournament.

Originally Posted by 4give4live

What's the problem with making a minimum deposit? Have no 10 dollars? And how are you going to withdraw funds if your payment method is not linked to an account?




There are no fees for e-wallets.
In your opinion, is it unfair not to allow players to withdraw funds won only in freerolls, without wagering the rake? Put yourself in their shoes.
That $ 32 can be turned into $ 320 by making a pre-deposit and playing some tournaments there. Then calmly take them out. What's the point of withdrawing $ 32?
Use, for example, that $ 32 as a freeroll tickets - $ 2-5 per tournament.

Yes your right 4give4live in some of what you are saying I agree with verify first then deposit and try to run it up,
I did plan on depositing there one week playing the Sundowner main event after they verified my account.
They would not accept my documentation that 10 other poker sites excepted no problem at the time though so I lost interest in the site because of this.
Many sites you can withdraw straight away,
Some other sites have a play your freeroll winnings rule first time fully or some type of reasonable rule attached which is fair enough just sadly Intertops is stricter than others when it comes to this so that makes players feel uncomfortable who like to deposit and withdraw at ease.

Originally Posted by 4give4live

What's the problem with making a minimum deposit? Have no 10 dollars? And how are you going to withdraw funds if your payment method is not linked to an account?




There are no fees for e-wallets.
In your opinion, is it unfair not to allow players to withdraw funds won only in freerolls, without wagering the rake? Put yourself in their shoes.
That $ 32 can be turned into $ 320 by making a pre-deposit and playing some tournaments there. Then calmly take them out. What's the point of withdrawing $ 32?
Use, for example, that $ 32 as a freeroll tickets - $ 2-5 per tournament.

Well i have to disagree with you there, paying to be able to access a money that is already yours is not how it should be done. Also, if youre afraid people will win money for free dont host freerolls. Thats the whole point.

I wanted to withdraw cause I wanna play in a better room, with better cash games and tournaments, and more traffic

Friend, you have an unpleasant situation, many restrictions, tough. How a person won to hand over and everything does not need to come up with a bunch of obstacles, as if the mood is spoiled.

Its hard to withdraw from freerolls... specialy if you never have made any deposit or even had made any rake at the pokerroom. They need to make money to give away money

Originally Posted by fededragon79

yes, the problem is that I have to make a deposit to play this money. so this is not a FREEroll

well you need to know cash out options before playing at any site.
you will need to earn that $16 in rake and 50% of anything further you win from freerolls
before cashing out. sometimes CC management can get them to allow you to at least play
other games with your winnings, no promises but it won't hurt to try
contact Debi or Tammy via PM.
I have cashed out freeroll winnings a couple of times by a hard grind at the cash tables,
it took me a long time and it's easy to lose the money you are trying to cash out.

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

paying to be able to access a money that is already yours is not how it should be done. Also, if youre afraid people will win money for free dont host freerolls. Thats the whole point.

sounds right but if TOS says you need 50% of rake to cashout then it's not really your money until those terms are met.
so it's not free money just free to play.
I personally do not like these rules either
the only alternative is not playing there

I have not even opened Intertops in over a year. Out of curiosity, I opened it and found I have a balance of $95. Probably still won't play, it might as well be Confederate money from the Civil War. Don't think I would ever be able to cash out. Wish they did P2P.

I had a similar issue with their patner juicy stakes years ago, but it was after depositing. I was over the minimum withdraw on the cashout page by alot. I contacted customer support and they informed me that the minimum cash out was more than i had by like $10 it was bs, thats why ill likely never deposit on a site again until its legal within my state or country

Originally Posted by Bricxjo

I have not even opened Intertops in over a year. Out of curiosity, I opened it and found I have a balance of $95. Probably still won't play, it might as well be Confederate money from the Civil War. Don't think I would ever be able to cash out. Wish they did P2P.

Remember when people would say (as a joke): "Save your Confedrate money! The South Shall rise Again!"

It seems less of a joke these days.

[. sometimes CC management can get them to allow you to at least play
other games with your winnings, no promises but it won't hurt to try
contact Debi or Tammy via PM.
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thanks , mate, I will do it

Originally Posted by fededragon79

I wanted to withdraw cause I wanna play in a better room, with better cash games and tournaments, and more traffic

So play somewhere else. You are not forced to play there, right? But you will not find tournaments anywhere with a guarantee of 10,000 with only 120 participants, and prize money that is not split into 500 places. And you can qualify for it for only two dollars. What is the point of complaining if you have never played and were not going to gamble there?

Originally Posted by hugh blair

Yes your right 4give4live in some of what you are saying I agree with verify first then deposit and try to run it up,
I did plan on depositing there one week playing the Sundowner main event after they verified my account.
They would not accept my documentation that 10 other poker sites excepted no problem at the time though so I lost interest in the site because of this.
Many sites you can withdraw straight away,
Some other sites have a play your freeroll winnings rule first time fully or some type of reasonable rule attached which is fair enough just sadly Intertops is stricter than others when it comes to this so that makes players feel uncomfortable who like to deposit and withdraw at ease.

Personally, I didn't have any problems with verification.
Recently, I asked in a chat to raise my poker limit to $ 1000, to which I was told that this is not possible at the moment. When asked why, the chat just stopped showing signs of life. It seemed very strange. We'll have to write a letter.

Originally Posted by Bricxjo

I have not even opened Intertops in over a year. Out of curiosity, I opened it and found I have a balance of $95. Probably still won't play, it might as well be Confederate money from the Civil War. Don't think I would ever be able to cash out. Wish they did P2P.

What makes you think that if all this money is from freerolls, and you accumulate the required amount of rake, you will not be allowed to withdraw it? There are tournaments every day, in which there are many participants. Do you think they play there just like that, out of nothing to do? You just don't want to play. Who is to blame in this case

Originally Posted by 4give4live

What makes you think that if all this money is from freerolls, and you accumulate the required amount of rake, you will not be allowed to withdraw it? There are tournaments every day, in which there are many participants. Do you think they play there just like that, out of nothing to do? You just don't want to play. Who is to blame in this case

I play on a site that I have no trouble getting my money and none of these problems.

Originally Posted by Bricxjo

I play on a site that I have no trouble getting my money and none of these problems.

It's good. But if I were you, I would use your intertops funds to participate in tournaments.

Cardchat gives you a chance to spin your bankroll from scratch. Won a "couple of dollars" - use them to enter the tournament. Why save them if everyone knows the "specific" rules of this site?
Anyone who complains is not quite aware that "serious" players who don't care about freerolls do not have such problems.

Here's an example:



Only 53 players and 10 prizes. Overlay - $ 791! Where else have you seen this?

It's probably best to check all the T&C's before you play so you can decide if the site is for you. I don't have the option to play at this site but I probably wouldn't play under these terms having fallen foul of it before on other sites and ended up going bust. You're either going to have to play it through to meet the rake requirements or just give it up and forget it/go play elsewhere.

Originally Posted by 4give4live

So play somewhere else. You are not forced to play there, right? But you will not find tournaments anywhere with a guarantee of 10,000 with only 120 participants, and prize money that is not split into 500 places. And you can qualify for it for only two dollars. What is the point of complaining if you have never played and were not going to gamble there?

I tried to play the money that I won and they didn't let me, I won a lot of times and never forced me to make a deposit to play the winnings in other poker rooms, I complain for that, it seems unfair and stupid to me

Originally Posted by fededragon79

I tried to play the money that I won and they didn't let me, I won a lot of times and never forced me to make a deposit to play the winnings in other poker rooms, I complain for that, it seems unfair and stupid to me

Ask me why I am not complaining about this. Because I verified my account, made a minimum deposit, and saved myself from your current problems. Yours, not a site whose rules you don't want to follow. I think you are quite an adult to understand this.

Hey guys and girls. I've been playing poker at Intertops for about 8 yrs, now. Never had a problem. I think it's because I started my acct. w/them in their sportsbook a couple yrs earlier. I played the freerolls offered there at the time, (Cake network back then) and w/combined winnings from sportsbook and pkr-fr's I kept a positive balance. When I was shafted by a skin on the same network I started playing poker at Intertops exclusively, built up a roll to cash out and that's it. Never had a problem w/them. I cashed out a little back in 2016 specifically to take my nephew to his first rock concert, (Korn, Rob Zombie); that was $175 well spent, I might add. I've cashed out close to $1k from Intertops so I know they're legit.
Spend some time and complete the requirements for freeroll winnings or make a decent deposit and win a little. Patience is a virtue in poker, even when it comes to free $.

I've had bad experiences with Intertop, but I think it was because i used one of their no deposit bonus codes

Originally Posted by Bricxjo

I have not even opened Intertops in over a year. Out of curiosity, I opened it and found I have a balance of $95. Probably still won't play, it might as well be Confederate money from the Civil War. Don't think I would ever be able to cash out. Wish they did P2P.

Juicy Stakes is even worse, at least with Intertops if you win money in a non free roll you can cash as long as you have sent in all your required docs, Juicy stakes requires you to roll over your cash deposit before you can cash? Insane imagine if you walked in a casino and won 1500 in a turney or a cash game and went to the cage to cash and they said were sorry but you have not played here enough so we are not paying you! Ha HA Online poker is a such a F joke! until we get regulated American sites this is the shit we have to put up with.

Originally Posted by fededragon79

yes, the problem is that I have to make a deposit to play this money. so this is not a FREEroll

Originally Posted by oldgrinder63

Juicy Stakes is even worse, at least with Intertops if you win money in a non free roll you can cash as long as you have sent in all your required docs, Juicy stakes requires you to roll over your cash deposit before you can cash? Insane imagine if you walked in a casino and won 1500 in a turney or a cash game and went to the cage to cash and they said were sorry but you have not played here enough so we are not paying you! Ha HA Online poker is a such a F joke! until we get regulated American sites this is the shit we have to put up with.

Even funnier?

Imagine any of the freerollers who are griping and bellyaching about a pretty standard rollover clause on a ton of legit poker sites actually comparing their $32 “winnings” to winning $1500 in a casino and “sorry we not pay you you no play enough” and thinking it’s the same thing

To win $1500 in a casino tourney or cash game.....you need seed money. Not many casinos run freerolls and pay actual money.

Do any casinos? Anywhere? Maybe in fantasy land.

Funnier still. Anyone on this particular thread....with possibly one or two exceptions.....actually hitting $1500 in a casino poker game, tourney or otherwise

Because this is because you started without making a deposit, make a deposit that will be able to withdraw.

Deposit the minimum play so you could meet Intertops Poker Terms and Conditions for Freerolls and then withdraw your money.

Im playing my money now, thanks to the admins, that helped me, and my poker limit has been increased, I won my money playing poker in freerolls, and now i got a bankroll, thats they way things should be for me, thanks cardschat

Originally Posted by wpilson70

Even funnier?

Imagine any of the freerollers who are griping and bellyaching about a pretty standard rollover clause on a ton of legit poker sites actually comparing their $32 “winnings” to winning $1500 in a casino and “sorry we not pay you you no play enough” and thinking it’s the same thing

To win $1500 in a casino tourney or cash game.....you need seed money. Not many casinos run freerolls and pay actual money.

Do any casinos? Anywhere? Maybe in fantasy land.

Funnier still. Anyone on this particular thread....with possibly one or two exceptions.....actually hitting $1500 in a casino poker game, tourney or otherwise

I think you missed my point, It was a not a literal example. My point was on Juicy Stakes if you deposit and take NO depositors bonus you still have to roll over your deposit before you can cash! So my analogy stands! I am aware you have to roll over free roll money and was really not bitching about that, as that is pretty standard on all sites.