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Starscoins can be converted to account cash at rate of 100 starscoins to the dollar. Not to mention free physical things like webcam at much less than market value PS4 and Xbox one too (but those are at market value but you can't take out money by in account until you wager it at tables so starscoins directly letting you buy it is less risk)

  1. Post the rakes of PS, PP and 888.
  2. Post the rakebacks from the same operators
  3. Prove mathematically that PS provide the best value for money
Only this will prove your case through and through.
 
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  1. Post the rakes of PS, PP and 888.
  2. Post the rakebacks from the same operators
  3. Prove mathematically that PS provide the best value for money
Only this will prove your case through and through.
Yes but the rakeback of ps isn't direct you need to come vert starscoins into dollars. You get around 40 per chest and doesn't takeuch rake to complete a chest.
 
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Yes but the rakeback of ps isn't direct you need to come vert starscoins into dollars. You get around 40 per chest and doesn't takeuch rake to complete a chest.

Are you saying there is no way to monetarily calculate your rakeback from PS? Atleast to the extent it's not clear enough for players to determine?

If so, then PP have a huge advantage over PS in value for money and transparency.
 
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Are you saying there is no way to monetarily calculate your rakeback from PS? Atleast to the extent it's not clear enough for players to determine?

If so, then PP have a huge advantage over PS in value for money and transparency.
If it turns regs away then all the better for me to grind.
 
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If it turns regs away then all the better for me to grind.

  1. If the regs go away then they take their BR with them. Gtd prizemoney for their major tournaments drop gradually Because regs are the only ones who can consistently and without fail buy into them.
  2. Other operators capitalize on this, lure those very same regs to their sites and increase their gtd payouts (sound familiar?)
  3. With increase gtd payouts they have more marketing clout to lure more recs to their sites.
Do your fans a favor and do this. You've already sidestepped these points in 3 posts since it's initial request. The more you do it the more you discredit your OP.

  1. Post the rakes of PS, PP and 888.
  2. Post the rakebacks from the same operators
  3. Prove mathematically that PS provide the best value for money
 
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40 starcoins per chest? :eek: nope,,,,,more like 7:puke:
 
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PS now and PS two years ago ... hell and paradise!
 
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pokerstars is the site of choice for me. I have had no problems with them, and I have gained a lot of experience while playing on this site. Still trying to make the top 10 in a tournament. Some day my ship will come in I hope !
 
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PS now and PS two years ago ... hell and paradise!
Explain why exactly this is please.

PokerStars is the site of choice for me. I have had no problems with them, and I have gained a lot of experience while playing on this site. Still trying to make the top 10 in a tournament. Some day my ship will come in I hope !

Good choice! :p
 
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We didn think, we know they did it! They updating and improving everything! Thats how they can stay one of the best brand.
pokerstars invents new forms of poker, new loyalty rewards new everything every month...

You play what? You play PS, why? It is the best.
 
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pokerstars invents new forms of poker, new loyalty rewards new everything every month...

+1 (+1001) :D finaly i see a player who say ps have a great new loyality program and that new form of game isnt so bad, you mean that magic power up i guess

You play what?

i dont play what! we call it poker

You play PS, why?

im a fan of poker, i dont care were to play! you are the fan of pokerstars! thats not the same.

It is the best.

:D
 
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+1 (+1001) :D finaly i see a player who say ps have a great new loyality program and that new form of game isnt so bad, you mean that magic power up i guess



i dont play what! we call it poker



im a fan of poker, i dont care were to play! you are the fan of pokerstars! thats not the same.



:D
You damn right I love PS but I love poker more than PS for sure.

 
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Individuals. Human nature. Different strokes for different folks.

I am an American. Right now I play freerolls at 4 sites. Each has something I like and NONE are, IMHO, perfect. Why? Simply because none of them have or offer everything I would want from a poker game and site.

My favourite is the one that offers the most that I do like. It IS NOT my favourite because of perfection. It simply satisfies my needs better than others at the moment.

That is not a reason to argue or fight over intangibles. Some will always take a view that is opposed to mine. That is okay. As long as there is enough variety available to satisfy most of us then the market place is doing its job.

I will play where I can profit and enjoy the games. And I make suggestions so they can improve for me and those who think and feel like I do. Everyone else has the same opportunities and choices that I do.

Best and favourite will never mean the same for everyone.

Nature of the beast, my friends. :2in1: :cool: :cool: :rolleyes: ;)

God bless.
 
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I am an American. Right now I play freerolls at 4 sites. Each has something I like and NONE are, IMHO, perfect. Why? Simply because none of them have or offer everything I would want from a poker game and site.

My favourite is the one that offers the most that I do like. It IS NOT my favourite because of perfection. It simply satisfies my needs better than others at the moment.

That is not a reason to argue or fight over intangibles. Some will always take a view that is opposed to mine. That is okay. As long as there is enough variety available to satisfy most of us then the market place is doing its job.

I will play where I can profit and enjoy the games. And I make suggestions so they can improve for me and those who think and feel like I do. Everyone else has the same opportunities and choices that I do.

Best and favourite will never mean the same for everyone.

Nature of the beast, my friends. :2in1: :cool: :cool: :rolleyes: ;)

God bless.
ACR is the best for Americans, the other ones are trash trust. :)
 
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My favourite is the one that offers the most that I do like. It IS NOT my favourite because of perfection. It simply satisfies my needs better than others at the moment.

Best = better than (all) others

while it is your favourite it is the best according to you even if only at the moment. :)
 
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If it turns regs away then all the better for me to grind.

Regs don't use play money, where's the graph.

Explain why exactly this is please.

I can, PS now = hell and PS two years ago = paradise!

You say in your location England and proud of it, but you come across as English is your 3rd language.

pokerstars invents new forms of poker, new loyalty rewards new everything every month...

And most of it is crap.

ACR is the best for Americans, the other ones are trash trust. :)

Why should anyone trust your comments, they are ridiculous, do you have any proof that ACR is the best for Americans or was it just something meaningless to say.

:rofl: :sheep:
 
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Regs don't use play money, where's the graph.



I can, PS now = hell and PS two years ago = paradise!

You say in your location England and proud of it, but you come across as English is your 3rd language.



And most of it is crap.



Why should anyone trust your comments, they are ridiculous, do you have any proof that ACR is the best for Americans or was it just something meaningless to say.

:rofl: :sheep:
From multi-tabling capacity to legitimacy of the RNG further to fighting collusion and such, ACR are not even competed with at all. The others in USA friendly market don't even try.
 
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From multi-tabling capacity to legitimacy of the RNG further to fighting collusion and such, ACR are not even competed with at all. The others in USA friendly market don't even try.

So just more assertions with no evidence? Huh.

You may be right about some of those things though. If enough words come out of your keyboard, eventually even you will be right about something.

ACR is the only offshore US-facing site I know of that has their poker RNG certified by an outside source, with a legitimate link to the certificate on their website:

https://www.americascardroom.eu/poker-customer-support/security-and-integrity/

ignition claims their RNG is certified by the same company. Maybe it is, but good luck finding that cert. There is a link to a cert on their website, but the linked certificate doesn't cover real poker, just casino games like 3-card poker.

https://www.ignitioncasino.eu/poker/getting-started/security

http://www.itechlabs.com.au/certificates/Lynton/RNG_Certificate_Ignition_12052016.pdf

Maybe other US-facing offshore sites are certified too. I have not looked into it, and we can say with confidence that the Madman hasn't either.

Ignition limits SNG multi-tabling to 4 games. I've hit that limit before. I don't think there is a limit for MTTs, or at least I haven't hit it yet. I don't know about cash games.

ACR's limit is 24 tables.
https://www.americascardroom.eu/poker-customer-support/how-to-play-poker/software-game-features/multi-tabling/

I don't know about the other sites multi-tabling rules.

I don't know what each site is doing about "fighting collusion and such", and neither does the Madman. ACR once had me do a Captcha-style test at the table, FWIW.

Ignition's PaiWangLuo network has more players than ACR's Winning Poker Network, which is a good showing for a site that doesn't "even try."
http://www.pokerscout.com/
 
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So just more assertions with no evidence? Huh.

You may be right about some of those things though. If enough words come out of your keyboard, eventually even you will be right about something.

ACR is the only offshore US-facing site I know of that has their poker RNG certified by an outside source, with a legitimate link to the certificate on their website:

https://www.americascardroom.eu/poker-customer-support/security-and-integrity/

Ignition claims their RNG is certified by the same company. Maybe it is, but good luck finding that cert. There is a link to a cert on their website, but the linked certificate doesn't cover real poker, just casino games like 3-card poker.

https://www.ignitioncasino.eu/poker/getting-started/security

http://www.itechlabs.com.au/certificates/Lynton/RNG_Certificate_Ignition_12052016.pdf

Maybe other US-facing offshore sites are certified too. I have not looked into it, and we can say with confidence that the Madman hasn't either.

Ignition limits SNG multi-tabling to 4 games. I've hit that limit before. I don't think there is a limit for MTTs, or at least I haven't hit it yet. I don't know about cash games.

ACR's limit is 24 tables.
https://www.americascardroom.eu/poker-customer-support/how-to-play-poker/software-game-features/multi-tabling/

I don't know about the other sites multi-tabling rules.

I don't know what each site is doing about "fighting collusion and such", and neither does the Madman. ACR once had me do a Captcha-style test at the table, FWIW.

Ignition's PaiWangLuo network has more players than ACR's Winning Poker Network, which is a good showing for a site that doesn't "even try."
http://www.pokerscout.com/
Site with anonymous tables to hide planted insider bots has more traffic? What a huge surprise. and damn right Ignition can have certified rng and then apply different things to its actual game software and it does so.

Ignition changes its company name whenever a lawsuit s threatened which, in the country they are based in, is enough to evade it.
 
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Site with anonymous tables to hide planted insider bots has more traffic? What a huge surprise. and damn right Ignition can have certified rng and then apply different things to its actual game software and it does so.

Ignition changes its company name whenever a lawsuit s threatened which, in the country they are based in, is enough to evade it.

Just more unsupported assertions.
 
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There is software that makes it easier for regs to table select without having to open tables. This has been used for years. It may be dissuading more recs at tables right now. As a poker operator you will lose more money including bots than having genuine players.

Anyway, when are you getting back to the real money grinding. You started off positively but have only stuck to play money since. You want more fans, you're going to have to grind real money. Give them a platform to root for you.
 
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There is software that makes it easier for regs to table select without having to open tables. This has been used for years. It may be dissuading more recs at tables right now. As a poker operator you will lose more money including bots than having genuine players.

Anyway, when are you getting back to the real money grinding. You started off positively but have only stuck to play money since. You want more fans, you're going to have to grind real money. Give them a platform to root for you.
You have no journal where's your great MTT rampage diary?

You can be humble until you're top tier and so can I.

Until I am at the top stakes of play money and beating everyone there, I'm not going to go to real money.
 
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