Advance Warning-If you are a Real Money Player at PokerStars-you will have to send ID

[nevadanick]

Read through the OP link and am still roflmao.

'Starting with the SuperNova VIP' list. Considering pokerstars has an estimated 15 MILLION registered players, it should be approximately 2387 AD before 'Scotty' gets around to me, doing it 'one at a time' .... :rofl: :rofl:

I'll be 65 later this month. Wonder if I'll live long enough to get their request for verification ... .... ....

 

[Poker_]

Read through the OP link and am still roflmao.

'Starting with the SuperNova VIP' list. Considering Pokerstars has an estimated 15 MILLION registered players, it should be approximately 2387 AD before 'Scotty' gets around to me, doing it 'one at a time' .... :rofl: :rofl:

I'll be 65 later this month. Wonder if I'll live long enough to get their request for verification ... .... ....

Out of those 15 million registered players, how many are real money players?

 

[nevadanick]

Out of those 15 million registered players, how many are real money players?

Considering that PS runs 'play chip' games and freerolls that result in Real Money wins, a lot of them are in fact RM players (at some level). Even if we trim that RM player figure to 1.5 million, and IF even 1/2 of those are already in compliance, 750,000 separately handled verifications would still mean a lengthy process.

OK .... maybe they WILL get to me sooner ... like 2187 instead of 2387. I'll take a short break from playing and go wait for Scotty's personal call .... :rofl:

 

[moemtg]

This is standard...

This is standard protocall for most all of the online gambling sites...

Full Tilt requires valid picture ID as well as a bill/statement from the past 30 days in order to cash anything out...

I don't see any problem in this.... extra security measures to make sure you are who you say you are...

I've been verified... just scan and send or go to UPS Store and have them fax it all for ya...

Nothing new to me,
Moe.

 

[bullishwwd]

What's next?

Guess they will start putting a "smart" chip in your right hand next...of course, this is for your benefit or they would not do it.

Think they may be building a database on you for the future? IE. Think of all the additional information being requested on the 2010 CENSUS forms that have nothing to do with the actual intent of a simple "census".

BOTTOM-LINE: Everybody wants as much data on you as they can get cause "information" is potential "power".

 

[F Paulsson]

Guess they will start putting a "smart" chip in your right hand next...of course, this is for your benefit or they would not do it.

Think they may be building a database on you for the future? IE. Think of all the additional information being requested on the 2010 CENSUS forms that have nothing to do with the actual intent of a simple "census".

BOTTOM-LINE: Everybody wants as much data on you as they can get cause "information" is potential "power".

You've already given them this data, buddy. What they're asking you to do now is to prove that you didn't just make stuff up when you registered.

 

[S93]

Dont see this beeing a issue.
Sure its a hazzle to send this stuff but its all in the name of security and almost all sites request this stuff either when u deposit or withdraw so PS is really just uping the industry standard for security(like they half allways done).

 

[moeraj]

I play mostly at carbon and when I wanted to do a player to player transfer they requested i send them a back and front scan of my driver's license. I did not like this idea because they obviously don't answer to anybody but i wanted to continue playing online poker so i did. If,like some sites,they wanted a scan of my bank account I would have quit.I would also be worried about sending scans of credit cards so i would advise never to use a credit card to deposit with an online poker site.

 

[Debi]

I play mostly at carbon and when I wanted to do a player to player transfer they requested i send them a back and front scan of my driver's license. I did not like this idea because they obviously don't answer to anybody but i wanted to continue playing online poker so i did. If,like some sites,they wanted a scan of my bank account I would have quit.I would also be worried about sending scans of credit cards so i would advise never to use a credit card to deposit with an online poker site.

If you are that paranoid about using a credit card then I would advise that you never use one in a retail store, a restaurant or at a hotel since you are much more likely to have you account compromised at one of those places than at a major poker site. Oh - did I forget gas station - the number one place you can expect to have an issue.

 

[wachinpntdry]

They should have been doing this earlier. It's just one more step to help prevent multi-accounters. Establishing identity also makes playes more accountable.

Bravo, PokerStars.

Unless you are practicing fraud, the checks are mailed to you with your name and address anyway. Not a big deal.

+1....my thoughts exactly

though it's not a perfect end all solution, ....having to provide state/govt issued ID along with some matching proof of physical address is a step in the right direction to help curb the rampant multi-accounting....which in turn could do alot to curb some collusion

 

[moeraj]

If you use a credit card at a legitimate business and you get scammed you are covered by the credit card company. Also there would likely be a police investigation.With online gambling sites there is no risk of prosecution. We've seen that with the absolute and ub scandals.

 

[Debi]

You are protected the same no matter where you use your credit card.

 

[brianvoytek]

Its more about the address of where people live. Showing your ID is one thing at a casino, but to send it to someone over seas is a little different. It doesnt make someone a bad person for not wanting to do it and it doesnt prevent "fraud" like someone mentioned. Bottom line, your biggest threat when you play online poker is the same person playing as many different people at the same table as you. The odds of that happening are slim.

 

[F Paulsson]

Its more about the address of where people live. Showing your ID is one thing at a casino, but to send it to someone over seas is a little different. It doesnt make someone a bad person for not wanting to do it and it doesnt prevent "fraud" like someone mentioned. Bottom line, your biggest threat when you play online poker is the same person playing as many different people at the same table as you. The odds of that happening are slim.

Yes but... again: The information they ask you to verify is information you've already given them. They're not gathering NEW information on you, they're trying to make sure the information you've already claimed is true actually is true.

 

[Dam Yankee]

I would like to believe it's to protect us & speed up the withdrawl process. Have only made dep's there (although it's been a while) but I didn't need any more info to do that than what I supplied when regestering. I can understand that they would need proof that u are who u say u are to make a withdrawl. I can also agree w/ flushing out the ones that are playing multi-acct's - I'm an honest player, and it would be nice to know that those u end up playing with are being held to some kind of standards.

That said - I can't help but notice the timing of this for those of us in the US. I guess time will tell...

I was under the impression that Obama was in favor of online poker (well, I did read that during the campaign, lol) I wish they would do something on the national level tho - cuz if they leave it up to individual states, I'm screwed. This Dam Yankee is now in the bible belt!

 

[PNJs_dad]

I totally agree with what Pokerstars is doing. I had to do the same at Tilt when I withdrew money. I figured I would have to do this on stars and some point anyway.

 

[kmixer]

When you show your ID at a casino you are doing just that SHOWING. When you send than online casino a copy they have it to keep and they have it to be stolen.

See the difference?

Why does this seem like a big deal to you? If you get carded in a B&M casino, would you think it was outrageous?

 

[F Paulsson]

When you show your ID at a casino you are doing just that SHOWING. When you send than online casino a copy they have it to keep and they have it to be stolen.

See the difference?

I'm trying to understand what you think will happen with the stolen copy of the ID.

 

[The Dark Side]

I'm trying to understand what you think will happen with the stolen copy of the ID.

??? A savy crook can use your info to gain other credit lines. ??? Identity Theft! ????

 

[Debi]

??? A savy crook can use your info to gain other credit lines. ??? Identity Theft! ????

So I assume that you have no bank accounts, no credit cards, no car loan, no mortgage and no other accounts with any kind of financial institution because you fear that your identity will be stolen.

You can not get any of those things without providing them with private information that could potentially lead to your identity being stolen.

I also assume you don't pay any bills by using the US mail. Because your private information can be stolen from your mailbox.

I could go on and on. There is nothing wrong with being careful - but you can take it too far.

 

[doops]

I'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with this unless they are underage or multi-accounting or doing something else that they shouldn't.
Pokerstars is a little late in getting to it, IMO.

 

[F Paulsson]

??? A savy crook can use your info to gain other credit lines. ??? Identity Theft! ????

Your info? They already have that. This is what I'm trying to say, again and again: YOU GAVE THEM ALL THAT INFORMATION WHEN YOU CREATED YOUR ACCOUNT TO BEGIN WITH. THIS IS JUST VERIFICATION THAT THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE THEM IS CORRECT. NO NEW INFORMATION IS BEING GIVEN TO POKERSTARS HERE.

See what you made me do? You made me type in caps and bold letters. Don't be that guy.

 

[shinedown.45]

and a utility bill sometime in the near future. They will be requesting these documents from all players (already emailed to supernovas). SO do not be surprised if you get this request.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/stars-sn-verification-e-mail-611976/

16.5. The User must provide full and truthful information in respect of all details and information requested by PokerStars in connection with the User's use of the Service subject at all time to the terms of the Privacy Policy.

No need to warn anybody, when a person decides to open an account with pokerstars they are bound by the above so it should come to no surprise when players are asked for info.

I understand that when I am requested to give such info I will not be upset because I knew it was coming after I had read the TOS.

 

[kevkojak]

Titan requested all these things from me when I tried to join there. I told them no f**king way am I sending my passport/drivers licence and a bank statement/utility bill through the post. Needless to say, they lost my business there and then.
They said it was to prevent multi-accounting, but its not hard to check if another user had used my I.P. address.
If Pokerstars bring this in, it'll pain me, but they are gone. Unless they wanna come to my house to check me out. Not posting documents ANYWHERE. lol

 

[WEC]

16.5. The User must provide full and truthful information in respect of all details and information requested by PokerStars in connection with the User's use of the Service subject at all time to the terms of the Privacy Policy.

No need to warn anybody, when a person decides to open an account with pokerstars they are bound by the above so it should come to no surprise when players are asked for info.

I understand that when I am requested to give such info I will not be upset because I knew it was coming after I had read the TOS.

What is the point of your post? Apparently there was a need to warn people because PokerStars had not had this policy previously and without public disclosure, they let out this info in a 2+2 thread that I thought some people may want to be WARNED about..... Some people dont care if they have to send in this info and some people do care.

From the replies, it appears this new policy was news to many.