Is 888 rigged?

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I have this strange feeling that 888 is rigged, or there is something really wrong with their algorithm.
Sometimes I am bluffing all the way through the turn, and boom, if I am all in and I am the least favorite, the cards just turn to my favors, even more, at the preflop say I have 2 and 7, I am fifty percent sure I will get two pairs at the flop.
Today it wasnt at all to my favor, I had AA flop with an A and 33. I raised, he went all in, I called and to my astonishment a 3 quad, the river with a 3 and he had a three in his hand. It wasnt the first time when the algorithm was biased to the underdog with an all in
 
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I often see similar comments about all the rooms. You are not alone.:)
 
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i don't think so , but i am suspicius too ,we will never know about it ,even negrianu have negative stats on pokerstars but this don't mean somthing , but i see some people win a lot on 888
 
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I feel the same but I think Im a little bit jealous because I didnt get a break yet
 
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All suspicions of fraud must be supported by evidence (such as the Absolute Poker scandal). Anything can happen in poker and I believe in honesty 888.
 
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Everything is rigged... when you lose
 
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The 888 offers Casino, sports betting and Poker, Poker is the one that gives the smallest return currently,so I do not think that's the case.

But if you're convinced, you can try partypoker or PokerStars (although the BadBeat will continue) but software improves :)
 
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888 rigged

this is my opinion but it is not just 888 i have had this happen on other sites as well.i believe we are dealing with BOTS.why you ask on certain sites when you lose to a hand that is very good or a player is crafty and knows the game and gets extra chit from you due to his betting strategy.i personally compliment them.IE;NH,GG.VNH ect resently i began playing on some bigger more competitive sites.and have lost to WOW hands.My term for them is. WTF HANDS.and when i have come off tilt lol complimented them there is nothing at all from players at first i thought they were just rude but then i noticed a pattern and not one of these players are in any of the chat rooms or ever reply to chat at table BOTS CANT REPLY THEREFORE THE GAME IS RIGGED TO THE HOUSE ADVANTAGE
 
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Makes me Wonder

You might be on to something
 
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Many of 888 freerolls get shallow very fast so you see many beats as players are forced to gamble often.

If you are upset about one bad beat I got some really bad news for you the more poker you play the more beats you will take. It does not matter the Poker Room they will come.
 
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Such examples can be multiplied. In my opinion pokerstars are faked, so I've been playing 888poker lately. This is the quintessence of poker, you never know what will happen: D
 
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I have this strange feeling that 888 is rigged, or there is something really wrong with their algorithm.
Sometimes I am bluffing all the way through the turn, and boom, if I am all in and I am the least favorite, the cards just turn to my favors, even more, at the preflop say I have 2 and 7, I am fifty percent sure I will get two pairs at the flop.
Today it wasnt at all to my favor, I had AA flop with an A and 33. I raised, he went all in, I called and to my astonishment a 3 quad, the river with a 3 and he had a three in his hand. It wasnt the first time when the algorithm was biased to the underdog with an all in


Leading question. Did you make a deposit?
 
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If you think 888 is rigged try another rooms. I have experience ten years and I know pokerroms is not rigged because this situations I had in live poker.
 
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I've never played 888 Poker before but my theory is this:

online poker isn't as rigged as most people say it is. There are certainly issues with online poker for certain such as collusion and bots. Because poker is about playing the player, not the cards, it most likely has to do with what your opponent called with. Bad beats like this happen pretty much all the time. Did your opponent have a garbage PoS hand? Yes. But is there anything you can do about it? Not really apart from re-organizing your strategy from scratch and trying again another time.

I was even discussing this with a poker dealer while I was playing a live cash game about whether or not online poker is "rigged" and he talked about how online poker tends to go by the odds and percentages since online, you have so many hands and community cards being dealt so it only seems "rigged" based on that but it really isn't.

So in other words, you're playing against calling-stations and not too much can be done about those types of players (unless you beat them with say for example, your Jacks against your opponent's Aces in which you flop quads and your opponent flops a boat but his/her fourth ace never comes on the river).
 
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Stars and 888 are similar and after playing for some time the same issues pop up... and that is primarily with draw collisions. Draw collisions are events where multiple draws connect on the same board, which is dealt in a way to maximize the involvement and action of players at the table.

How often do you expect to see straights on flush boards? Two pairs on the flop that prints a straight by the river? Flopped straights that get sucked out by flushes and full houses? Trips against full houses? It's endless ridiculous action forging that's on both sites and gets worse the deeper any MTT goes.

But even that on its own is more "juicing" or rigging for action rather than rigging for particular players, as long as everyone gets a fair shot at getting the top draw. But that's just not the case, as you'll get to see the fakest artificial heaters and coolers at the tables. Want to know when you're on a "downswing"? Go to a fast fold poker game - Zoom or Snap - and just fold all your hands for a while and pay the blinds. Now review your history after you have a couple hundred hands or so. Take a look at how the boards run out for your hole cards. Flush draws not connecting or getting faded by higher draws? Pairs getting beaten by straights, sets, etc? Connectors just not connecting? There's your "run bad" while everyone else just happens to connect with whatever two that they play.

So how is it that someone can have a serious case of "run bad" where they are "randomly" placed at fast fold tables where everyone that plays against them just coincidentally happens to harvest the nuts with any two that they play?

It doesn't stop with fast fold poker either. It's just the easiest place to see just how fake both of these platforms - 888 and Stars - have engineered their poker games to be.
 
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888 has it all. Action, draws against draws, and the elusive river royal flush.Screenshot 20190223 145012
 
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Stars and 888 are similar and after playing for some time the same issues pop up... and that is primarily with draw collisions. Draw collisions are events where multiple draws connect on the same board, which is dealt in a way to maximize the involvement and action of players at the table.

How often do you expect to see straights on flush boards? Two pairs on the flop that prints a straight by the river? Flopped straights that get sucked out by flushes and full houses? Trips against full houses? It's endless ridiculous action forging that's on both sites and gets worse the deeper any MTT goes.

But even that on its own is more "juicing" or rigging for action rather than rigging for particular players, as long as everyone gets a fair shot at getting the top draw. But that's just not the case, as you'll get to see the fakest artificial heaters and coolers at the tables. Want to know when you're on a "downswing"? Go to a fast fold poker game - Zoom or Snap - and just fold all your hands for a while and pay the blinds. Now review your history after you have a couple hundred hands or so. Take a look at how the boards run out for your hole cards. Flush draws not connecting or getting faded by higher draws? Pairs getting beaten by straights, sets, etc? Connectors just not connecting? There's your "run bad" while everyone else just happens to connect with whatever two that they play.

So how is it that someone can have a serious case of "run bad" where they are "randomly" placed at fast fold tables where everyone that plays against them just coincidentally happens to harvest the nuts with any two that they play?

It doesn't stop with fast fold poker either. It's just the easiest place to see just how fake both of these platforms - 888 and Stars - have engineered their poker games to be.
I agree with everything he has said. I'll even add that their programs even keep track of the hands you play most often and lose loose the most. Give you a example I am a sucker for two pair. Specially if there's drawing hands. In live poker it was a money maker. Ya you lose a couple but should be a money maker. If I hit two pair on the flop I know to fold but I don't. I just call to limit my loses. Sure enough they have a lose rate around 80% for me. It used to be pocket AA. Now I down play them and I see them far less then when I first started playing. I think that all sites use the same type of programming. I played live twice last year and just killed it. As long as is entertaining I'll play.
 
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Everything is rigged... when you lose


You are exactly right, but what about when you are the one that catches the quad 3s against Aces full? Pure skill :p??
 
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If you think so, then in any case you need to take a break in the game or change the room. Such thoughts appear after a protracted downstreak.
 
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Not a online poker room out there that this question and/or accusation has not been asked about, Or commented on
 
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Agree with you, something fishy going on..
 
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Absolute Poker was not rigged either. Same as all the other ones they claimed same old broken record; verified RNG , variation.... loads of BS.
All poker sites do not answer literally to anyone and no one is checking if they are doing something fishy. They pay some 'independent' lab that back them up regarding software. Again loads of BS.
Back to 888. The bonus wheel is rigged, the rakeback wheel is rigged and the Blast wheel is rigged as well. What more you want for them to come out and admit it ?
 
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888 is not falsified,but rather designed for weak players,so the counters are crooked.really, I'm never sure what will happen.and most of the players are weak,constantly ol in go.
 
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even if it was rigged for me i wouldn't play it cause it looks so bad. I honestly dont understand why dont they just make it look like pokerstars it's so much more appealing.
 
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