Skrill to cease processing gambling payments in Canada!

[Weissr]

Reversed some of my choices for Deposit/Withdrawals.. after dealing with a few half-baked support staff. Made a couple more withdrawals in hopes of getting those $'s before Deposit deadlines & it seems that Skrill WD transactions are going through faster than they ever have before >> ie. NewYear's Eve I make a WD off WillHill at 2:30am (I was up late browsing newegg for a new puter, lol... a full-on puter nerd now) & it was in my account in less than 6hrs.!!!

Another luckbox WD for me.... JuicyStakes actually paid me in less than 7days! (how is that even possible?)

Probably with being partnered/owned or whatever they are with intertops has stabilized Juicy allowing smoother cashouts.*
*totally unverified

 

[crusinnn]

I'm not sure why you've quoted what I wrote there? I mean your comments sound relevant to the situation with DEP/WD options but I don't see how they relate to the comment you've quoted?

I was trying to tell you that if you have cash to deposit then mastercard giftcard is the best way to go not entropay. Even though the fees are not much different with a giftcard advantage entro allows you to deposit with credit cards that's the only difference.

 

[the lab man]

put balance of playtech ie titan and others into skrill ...will now transfer monies to stars or tilt and probably will not or never play other sites...sad

 

[Weissr]

put balance of playtech ie titan and others into Skrill ...will now transfer monies to stars or tilt and probably will not or never play other sites...sad

Good luck, considering Stars and Full Tilt said they will stop accepting Skrill deposits on Dec 31st.

 

[dmorris68]

If you're going to be depositing via credit cards then you will need a 3rd party site otherwise it will get declined by any poker rooms.

Not true everywhere. Even as a US player, I can still deposit at the sites I play using a CC. In fact post-BF any deposit I've ever made has been with a CC.

I much prefer echecks/EFT for deposit/withdrawal and that's pretty much all I used with PS and FT pre-BF, but I've been fortunate enough to have my CC's accepted at other sites ever since. There are also certain prepaid giftcards that will work (usually certain VISAs, almost never MC).

 

[Poker Orifice]

Not true everywhere. Even as a US player, I can still deposit at the sites I play using a CC. In fact post-BF any deposit I've ever made has been with a CC.

I much prefer echecks/EFT for deposit/withdrawal and that's pretty much all I used with PS and FT pre-BF, but I've been fortunate enough to have my CC's accepted at other sites ever since. There are also certain prepaid giftcards that will work (usually certain VISAs, almost never MC).

Here in canada, it is actually just the opposite (MC > visa).

 

[Poker Orifice]

put balance of playtech ie titan and others into Skrill ...will now transfer monies to stars or tilt and probably will not or never play other sites...sad

That's unfortunate

There was a bit of confusion as far as dates go...
Skrill is ceasing 'DEPOSITS' today (Jan.2/2104) as they stated, 'but' pokerstars & Fulltilt actually stopped Canadian Skrill Deposits on Dec.31

(I think you can still make deposits back onto Playtech/ipoker sites today... I did one successfully yesterday & am going to try another one here shortly on WillHill (for the 'Freebet Freeroll' lol)... as soon as I bust out of a couple tourneys I'm playing on Titan right now)

 

[Makwa]

instadebit is closed to canucks PO. :dontknow:

 

[Poker Orifice]

Instadebit is closed to canucks PO. :dontknow:

I thought a few of the posters in this thread have either used INSTADEBIT (given) or have just setup an account on there (vegasjj).
Also, williamhill just re-directed me to INSTADEBIT (I thought I'd be able to deposit still today (jan.2) before the end of the day but it appears that they shutdown the option earlier on or at the start of today). I didn't try to open an account on there yet.

Is this just as of today? (or Jan.1/2014)?

 

[vegasjj]

Instadebit is closed to canucks PO. :dontknow:

Is this something new?
Or is it in the works?
Do you have more info - source of your info?

 

[SANDYHOOKER KY]

Looks like Canada has made some kind of pact with the U.S. government behind closed doors to me. This crap about terrorist money laundering being the best 'excuse' they can conjure up. The gov. already eyeballs any transaction 10k and over already, WTH? They can spy on a million people a second, send a man in space, but can't catch a terrorist [allegedly] online? Australia is looking mighty good about now. Wonder how a hillbilly would fit in with the Aussies.

 

[dmorris68]

The gov. already eyeballs any transaction 10k and over already, WTH?

Not that I take issue with your sentiment, but the above quoted part is not entirely true.

Only cash deposits that exceed $10K, either in one lump sum or suspiciously close together so as to try and bypass the $10K threshold, are required to be reported. Wire transfers, EFTs, check deposits, ewallet transactions, etc. are not subject to mandatory reporting, nor are withdrawals.

 

[Gorak]

Instadebit is closed to canucks PO. :dontknow:

It seems like Instadebit it is still open for Canadians and PokerStars still lists it as a Canadian deposit/withdrawal method.

I'm seriously considering opening an Instadebit account since Entropay's fees for moving money are way to much. They take 5% to load your account and 1.95% for every cashout you make from a site. Then a 6$ fee to get it back on my Credit Card or Bank Account. On top of that there is 2% extra fee on exchange rate currency. This is way too much "rake" for my taste.

EntroPay Fees

Open an EntroPay Account ...........................................................Free
Create an EntroPay Virtual Visa Card ..............................................Free
Load an EntroPay card from a personal credit or debit card .............. 4.95%
Receive money from a merchant onto an EntroPay card ................... 1.95%
Transfer between EntroPay Cards ............................$0.20 / £0.10 / €0.15
Foreign exchange fee on relevant purchases.................................... 2%
Spend using an EntroPay card ..................................................... Free
Return money to a personal credit or debit card............ $ 6 / £ 3 / € 4.50
Destroy an EntroPay Virtual Visa ...................................................Free

 

[Weissr]

Looks like Canada has made some kind of pact with the U.S. government behind closed doors to me. This crap about terrorist money laundering being the best 'excuse' they can conjure up. The gov. already eyeballs any transaction 10k and over already, WTH? They can spy on a million people a second, send a man in space, but can't catch a terrorist [allegedly] online? Australia is looking mighty good about now. Wonder how a hillbilly would fit in with the Aussies.

Sounds a bit dramatic. If you're a professional poker player, Canada is still a decent spot to be. Don't think it's worth moving unless s**t really hits the fan, if ever.

 

[SANDYHOOKER KY]

I agree with you Weissr, it does sound dramatic, probably even silly. But after waking up so many days and going online, and seeing messages like 'your funds are safe and secure, please contact support to move your funds'. Makes one get suspicious of everything that goes bump in the night.I am in a state that went after full-tilt and i think it was 106 other domains, it's unbelievable, and makes me want to claim residency in another state. So there isn't anything that could surprise me now. I still say that poker players should pool all the money we can muster and buy our own site, run by poker players, and owned by poker players. Hell if lock did, and they were broke to start with [allegedly] why couldn't we?

 

[Weissr]

I agree with you Weissr, it does sound dramatic, probably even silly. But after waking up so many days and going online, and seeing messages like 'your funds are safe and secure, please contact support to move your funds'. Makes one get suspicious of everything that goes bump in the night.I am in a state that went after full-tilt and i think it was 106 other domains, it's unbelievable, and makes me want to claim residency in another state. So there isn't anything that could surprise me now. I still say that poker players should pool all the money we can muster and buy our own site, run by poker players, and owned by poker players. Hell if lock did, and they were broke to start with [allegedly] why couldn't we?

I didn't realize you live in the US from your previous post being this is a Canada related thread, my bad. Moving is definitely an option then if you are a professional poker player (many have relocated to play).

Your idea of poker players pooling their money to start a site is pretty unrealistic and logistically a nightmare. It takes a completely different set of skills to properly run and manage a business, which is what a poker site is, versus just playing poker. And even if they were able to manage the business to perfection, they would still have all the same issues to deal with that other sites do (payment processors, difficulty dealing with banks, legislation, licenses, fraud, etc...). The main reason I think many poker sites fail is due to poor management and/or greed.

 

[Poker Orifice]

I still say that poker players should pool all the money we can muster and buy our own site, run by poker players, and owned by poker players.

Said Chris Ferguson to Howard Lederer...

 

[Evildrum]

Wouldnt doubt Canada gave up freedom in this e-commerce area in the last EU bargain deal. From what I saw the deal had nothing good for the every day Canadian.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Received an email from Lock Poker Security today. They've cancelled my withdrawal, telling me that Skrill is no longer available to Canadians.

Weird because my Skrill account is still working for withdrawals on every other fk'n site. pff... what a joke!

(they actually also sent me an email on NewYear's Day, telling me to disregard an email that went out cancelling withdrawals & that in fact mine was still pending in the order it was submitted. I never received the 'email' prior that they were referring to ???).
fwiw, I've never ever sent Lock an email regarding my pending withdrawal(s) although today I did reply, letting them know that I'm well aware that Skrill is still available to withdrawal for Canadian residents & that they've just sent me some information that is in fact NOT True/correct.

They also sent me a link to another method for making a withdrawal. I haven't gone there yet but no doubt one would need to make a deposit via that menthod prior to being able to withdrawal with it.

 

[vegasjj]

I have more info to share about INSTADEBIT.

I LOVE the fact that they have ON LINE SUPPORT.

Here is what happens with the fees:

When you take money out of your bank cost = $1
Put money into your bank cost =$2

When depositing from INSTADEBIT balance to a site - IT IS FREE
Withdraw from a site to INSTADEBIT - FREE

If you withdraw US$ into your INSTADEBIT account - it will stay as US$, there will be no exchange fees when you deposit US$ to an other site from the INSTADEBIT balance.

This makes it overall cheaper then Skrill!!
Just wish it was available at all sites

Hope this helps

 

[Poker Orifice]

Received an email from Lock Poker Security today. They've cancelled my withdrawal, telling me that Skrill is no longer available to Canadians.

They also sent me a link to another method for making a withdrawal. I haven't gone there yet but no doubt one would need to make a deposit via that menthod prior to being able to withdrawal with it.

Lock actually sent me a few emails (amazingly fast too).
I was told I would not need to make a deposit on to Lock via 'Ecopayz' in order to use it as a method for Withdrawal (I would simply need to set up an account on Ecopayz). < I haven't looked into it yet... too busy but maybe will check it out this evening.
Anybody know anything about 'Ecopayz'?

 

[vegasjj]

Anybody know anything about 'Ecopayz'?

So may processors...
I would be happiest if all there was - would be neteller and Skrill (proven trusted), available to ALL players on ALL sites...
but... big sigh - nice dream

I am basically just using a simple logic: If the pokersites I trust (like Pokerstars) is using a certain processor, I am assuming that, that processor has some credibility. Also I will not keep any large amounts on any processor's account.

 

[Poker Orifice]

So I went to make my first bankwire (hopefully of many) from Skrill to my bank account this evening.

I found the form a bit confusing. Country.. ez peezy. SWIFT ... no biggy.. again ez peezy. But the third space > Bank/sort code.. wtf?

I searched the internet, typing in something like "what is Bank/sort code for receiving bank-wire from Skrill?" It took me to a few sites, including TD bank with people asking the exact same question (& seeing alot of incorrect answers givin' on some forums). So I get my answer, the Bank/sort code is 3-digit bank institution number followed by the 5-digit branch transit number. And instead of just referring to it as the 'Routing information number' (< as it is referred to at my bank) they call it Bank/sort code. You also need to add an additional '0' at the start of the first 3-digits so it is written in standard code (although you do leave off the 'cc' ahead of the '0').

Okay so that's great. I get back onto Skrill & am ready & rarin' to go!!
But then the window pops back up 'SWIFT code cannot be updated' << wtf?

I thought perhaps I was incorrect with how I'd entered the Bank/sort code (as some folks on some sites were suggesting to do it differently than I'd come to believe it was supposed to be done). But that was not the case (it gave me an error message then for the Bank/sort code). So I entered all the info. again >> same result. Then again... & again. sigh
Tried cleaning cookies, temp.files etc., re-boot, login again & try it again... & again... same result

So I guess now I wait up til' they're open & can be reached on the phone.(timezone difference I think is ~9hrs. so I've still got a few more to go now).

It's never easy. Well that's not true. It's usually VERY easy to get money onto the sites.

Anyone else experiencing similiar?

 

[Poker Orifice]

Anybody know anything about 'Ecopayz'?

So may processors...
I would be happiest if all there was - would be neteller and Skrill (proven trusted), available to ALL players on ALL sites...
but... big sigh - nice dream

I am basically just using a simple logic: If the pokersites I trust (like Pokerstars) is using a certain processor, I am assuming that, that processor has some credibility. Also I will not keep any large amounts on any processor's account.

I wasn't asking about 'Ecopayz' as being a viable option to replace 'Skrill'. It was only as a method to withdrawal funds off of Lock... replacing Skrill as I 'had' a pending withdrawal via 'Skrill' which I was hoping would be paid out before Jan.31st (for obvious reasons).

I've now gotten to the point where I could actually care less about the majority of the sites I have accounts on. A short while ago I was thinking I would continue to play on partypoker, 888Poker (< weird cuz I haven't played on that site in years! lolz), and 3 (or more) iPoker network sites, & of course FTP & Stars.
Now I 'might' play on '1' iPoker network site. Pretty much the only reason I was playing on iPoker the past while was for deposit promos, regional freerolls, etc. I'm not too fond of their tournament lobby anymore now that it has almost entirely gone to Euro buyins (there's only like 2 or 3 tournaments I like). I might keep a minimal balance on a couple in case there's some extra juicy game that comes up that I do not want to miss out on & then if I actually bink a decent score I will go ahead with a deposit via e-check.

Latest plan is to open up a new bank account used strictly for the pokerz. I've heard of one that many players are using so I'll probably go with it (it's not TD, not Royal, not CIBC & not BMO).

 

[IvanShovski]

Latest plan is to open up a new bank account used strictly for the pokerz. I've heard of one that many players are using so I'll probably go with it (it's not TD, not Royal, not CIBC & not BMO).

A bank that is not TD, not Royal, not CIBC & not BMO recently acquired a branchless bank with an orange logo. This branchless bank offers no fee chequing accounts and may be a good option.

Also, I noticed that the payment processor that handles Canadian paper cheque withdrawals for Stars uses an account with a credit union. Perhaps they are more internet gaming friendly.