*** Pokerstars buys Full Tilt ...... ***

[jazzaxe]

Make sure that you put up a link when it happens. I will be the first to cash out. I remain, however, skeptical.

 

[kidkvno1]

I do not care what I sounded like. I asked a question. Quit being so sensitive

Why are you even asking if you don't care about the players.

Maybe nobody cares what questions you have.

On a serious note - be nice whether you care to be or not.

+1


I do hope Stars buys FTP.

 

[Kenzie 96]

on one hand i consider shaun deeb more credible than the average well-known online player -- on the other hand he once dressed up as a woman in order to play a poker tournament

And this is a problem because

 

[SheldonCooper]

Why are you even asking if you don't care about the players.


+1


I do hope Stars buys FTP.

Because I want to play on pokerstars again

 

[DawgBones]

Subscribing in the hopes....

And this is a problem because

That Kenzie will once again don his favorite garment on Re-Opening Day!

 

[cardriverx]

FTP software > PS software but obviously PS won't change their software to FTPs.

All I really care about is the 1.4k I had on FTP -- and it seems with something like this that people would be able to sign into their old FTP accounts and W/D through PS?? (And hopefully us US players won't have to deal with filing with the DOJ?)

And people saying $750 mil in order to pay for the right to play in the US.. is that possible/legal?

Thanks

 

[Demonomania]

Screw compassion for others, I have none. I wanted to know if there was a chance of these rooms being reopened for Americans. I do not care about any money any of you might have tied up in full tilt, it's not my problem

And now no one has any compassion to whether or not you ever get to play on PS again.

gl to you sir

 

[cAPSLOCK]

In before troll is banned.

 

[Lafayette2]

A lot of people are saying monoply for Stars to get Full Tilt, while it might seem as that, but for the last year since Black Friday no company has stepped up. Merge has a number of sites, also Cake but not in the ballpark of second place after Pokerstars. As the announcers of 2+ 2 mentioned, its only a monoply if they are manipulating the market to attain there there dominance. Pokerstars earned their place by being a great company that cares about its clients. Youre worried about less competiton for Pokerstars, their is no competition for them now. I personally miss Pokerstars and Full Tilt in the US market and would like to see everthing done to help them comeback in the future.

 

[vegasjj]

PS software I prefer to FT software - which I prefer to all others.

Would love to see FT back - and my little $ back (just over $70)

The best would be to see e1 getting their money back - and all US players having the opportunity to play on a decent software again.

As far as monopoly... they practically are a monopoly now, and PS gained my respect big time - when it basically continued to process all banking transactions after Black Friday. So what if they are a monopoly? They offer a good software, good games, PROVEN SECURE FUNDS!

Go PS and good luck buying FT!

 

[ALL IN CLUBS]

I emailed Pokerstars just to see what they would say about the situation



Removed the attachment because it had your email address in it!

 

[seqas]

weeeeeeeeeeeee did read it to, i really hope its true and will become true lol.

full tilt poker got such a nice and clean software to play on along with stars.

 

[woody19]

please be true i really like pokerstars but fulltilt was my home

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

what was so special about the FTP software? I don't see whats so bad about Stars..

 

[quintass]

what was so special about the FTP software? I don't see whats so bad about Stars..

It was (or still is to non US players) the most "comfortable" software pacakge I've ever used. Easy to navigate, super hand history options, great betting button options, a nice selection of skins, user friendly cashier, large easy to read text and chat..... I just really liked the feel of it, ya know. Stars comes in a close second, but thats JMHO.

 

[polingpower]

IT would be nice to get the $$ back..........
i for one WANT to thank CC ............if i get my roll back
as it was 0 bankroll BEFORE CC..... ................. i be REAL HAPPY to see the $$$

 

[plainluck]

Rumor is all over today that Pokerstars has bought Full Tilt - don't know if it is true or not - but appears to have merit from all I can find so far.

Unbelievably great news if true!

Will add details as we hear them!

***Edit - went searching for details and found this in a thread at 2p2:

PokerStars has reached an agreement with the U.S. Department of Justice to buy FTP. The things I heard:

* All players will be refunded 100%
* Both sites back online
* Both sites have promotions
* Employees remain in both places

Expect more news today.

Did this rumor perchance start on April 1st? The day my money is back in my bank I will start thinking about holding my breath.

 

[Debi]

Did this rumor perchance start on April 1st? The day my money is back in my bank I will start thinking about holding my breath.

Nope - it started the day the thread was started.

To others - massive derail in this thread is over.

 

[Tammy]

Did this rumor perchance start on April 1st? The day my money is back in my bank I will start thinking about holding my breath.

You might want to read the whole thread.

 

[dj11]

Personally , I solved all those software issues eons ago when I started making all my tables look almost identical. Green felt, dark to black background. These days, the only software issue I could talk about is the almost unintelligible Merge Lobby problem.

For the most part, the only difference essentially was the size of the action buttons. If multi-tabling, there ain't gonna be much if any chat, so chat issues go bye bye.

I still don't understand why Stars feels it is necessary to but Tilt. DoJ must have put one juicy carrot at the end of the stick it is holding over Stars, AND Stars gets Rush. Other than that it doesn't make much sense. If they did not buy Tilt, and since the GBT deal fell fallow, Tilt, and any competition it provided, would just fade into the courts, and Stars benefits from it's main competition just disappearing.

That carrot must be mighty juicy!

 

[Neoblast]

Chances are pokerstars might get doj's trust in their business methods so we might see FTP again, it was my favourite rooms, favourite freerolls, promotions and even rush...

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

How can you not get it DJ? Think about how much money is tied up on FTP. Hundreds of millions. Instead of that being forever gone, it goes back into the poker community and eventually Stars gets more money. If they can also get US players back and playing on FTP it'll be even more money for them.

 

[Neoblast]

Personally , I solved all those software issues eons ago when I started making all my tables look almost identical. Green felt, dark to black background. These days, the only software issue I could talk about is the almost unintelligible Merge Lobby problem.

For the most part, the only difference essentially was the size of the action buttons. If multi-tabling, there ain't gonna be much if any chat, so chat issues go bye bye.

I still don't understand why Stars feels it is necessary to but Tilt. DoJ must have put one juicy carrot at the end of the stick it is holding over Stars, AND Stars gets Rush. Other than that it doesn't make much sense. If they did not buy Tilt, and since the GBT deal fell fallow, Tilt, and any competition it provided, would just fade into the courts, and Stars benefits from it's main competition just disappearing.

That carrot must be mighty juicy!

That carrot is all the money FTP can make, heck If I had the millions I'd do it too.
It's a win win situation, yes you have to stand players bank and probably massive withdrawal at the begnning but still with all the money pokerstars move, they're more like a financial institution or bank that just a poker site...

Poker is business and ftp was the second in the whole cake...

 

[dj11]

How can you not get it DJ? Think about how much money is tied up on FTP. Hundreds of millions. Instead of that being forever gone, it goes back into the poker community and eventually Stars gets more money. If they can also get US players back and playing on FTP it'll be even more money for them.

Mostly all liabilities. If it were profitable to pay back the players, Full TIlt would have done it.

I think, but could be wrong about it, that even if Stars does acquire Tilt, the first thing that happens is the Tilt players requesting all their money back, certainly US players will be doing that. If the ROW players decide to take a wait and see attitude, then that still confuses things for Stars. Do they withdraw first, then wait and see? Do they leave money there, and wait and see? I think they mostly all pull out their money first. Huge Liability.

For the ROW players, they already (probably) have Stars, and only want US players back, which does not require Tilt in the picture.

The more I think about this, the bigger that carrot seems to have to be. Or perhaps the Rush/Zoom patent rights, which would loom large if Tilt were to dissolve, possibly larger than the $750 mil rumored. Over the length of a patent, that fast game (either one) will make more money than 100 times that purchase price. If Tilt does hold a patent on Rush, then Zoom will have already violated that patent, and billion dollar penalties would be small change in that case. It may be that Tilt, per se, doesn't hold the patent, perhaps the software company does. Tilt may have held only an exclusive license, in which case the terms of that exclusivity is the key question. Since Tilt will not have paid anything on that contract for quite some time now, the owner could claim default and offer the method to any fresh new bidder.

An argument could easily be made that the only asset Tilt has worth anything, is their Rush asset. Their case reserves are so tied up that they can not be seen as an asset. Any hardware they had is now a year out of date, tho their personnel could be considered an asset, they would be cheaper to recruit out of Tilt than to buy Tilt just to get them. There is no other White Knight that we have heard of.

But if you think it is only about the player pool, and keeping them interested, well, you keep on thinking that, it won't hurt one way or the other, but that ain't why they are interested.

It doesn't make sense....

 

[cardriverx]

Mostly all liabilities. If it were profitable to pay back the players, Full TIlt would have done it.

I think, but could be wrong about it, that even if Stars does acquire Tilt, the first thing that happens is the Tilt players requesting all their money back, certainly US players will be doing that. If the ROW players decide to take a wait and see attitude, then that still confuses things for Stars. Do they withdraw first, then wait and see? Do they leave money there, and wait and see? I think they mostly all pull out their money first. Huge Liability.

For the ROW players, they already (probably) have Stars, and only want US players back, which does not require Tilt in the picture.

The more I think about this, the bigger that carrot seems to have to be. Or perhaps the Rush/Zoom patent rights, which would loom large if Tilt were to dissolve, possibly larger than the $750 mil rumored. Over the length of a patent, that fast game (either one) will make more money than 100 times that purchase price. If Tilt does hold a patent on Rush, then Zoom will have already violated that patent, and billion dollar penalties would be small change in that case. It may be that Tilt, per se, doesn't hold the patent, perhaps the software company does. Tilt may have held only an exclusive license, in which case the terms of that exclusivity is the key question. Since Tilt will not have paid anything on that contract for quite some time now, the owner could claim default and offer the method to any fresh new bidder.

An argument could easily be made that the only asset Tilt has worth anything, is their Rush asset. Their case reserves are so tied up that they can not be seen as an asset. Any hardware they had is now a year out of date, tho their personnel could be considered an asset, they would be cheaper to recruit out of Tilt than to buy Tilt just to get them. There is no other White Knight that we have heard of.

But if you think it is only about the player pool, and keeping them interested, well, you keep on thinking that, it won't hurt one way or the other, but that ain't why they are interested.

It doesn't make sense....

It's an investment. PS has the $$$ and they're willing to take the risk of a loss. Worst case scenario for them is they lose some cash, get Rush, and become even more respected in the poker community.

Good buy by PS.