Whodahustla
Rock Star
Silver Level
Agreed!
There's a method to his madness and it works for him. Everybody has their thing. The thing that makes them marketable. For Phil H it's the way he wears his emotions on his sleeves. TV ratings definitely go up when he's playing. It's like you get tired of his fussing but it's entertaining at the same time. Even watching the other players react to him LOL! He's been in the game a while so something must be working for him. He uses his fussing as a distraction.
There's a method to his madness and it works for him. Everybody has their thing. The thing that makes them marketable. For Phil H it's the way he wears his emotions on his sleeves. TV ratings definitely go up when he's playing. It's like you get tired of his fussing but it's entertaining at the same time. Even watching the other players react to him LOL! He's been in the game a while so something must be working for him. He uses his fussing as a distraction.
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ProfessorGrind
Rock Star
Silver Level
I agree - he would get crushed online playing only online regs. However, where he is excels is playing against rec's - he is great at exploiting and extracting chips from them.
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roguelikeme
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Phil Helmuth, Devilfish and Victoria Coren at one table, my favourite clip of all time:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liDOZSAiCrY&ab_channel=partypokerTV[/ame]
Watch as Hellmuth acts like the adult in the room
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liDOZSAiCrY&ab_channel=partypokerTV[/ame]
Watch as Hellmuth acts like the adult in the room
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amitmanchanda
Rock Star
Platinum Level
Don’t know if he is under rated or over rated but he has definitely not overcame with Fact of luck in the game of poker.
He reminds me of this senior lady from the Local poker community, where she will bitch about how I play with crap hands (only if she looses) but never tried to adapt her own game to play against me.
I certainly don’t play with such hands anymore or not as frequent but there will always be people who will.
So Adapt. Hate the game not the player!
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mktpppr
Rock Star
Bronze Level
I just watched Round 2 of his Highstakes Duel vs Esfandiari today and it was another masterclass.
His raw ability is definitely under-rated by mainstream fans and younger poker players.
Depending on the format, he is world-class. Obviously live big field NLHE tournaments being his preferred format, but he is very good in live headsup SNG format as well.
Everybody has favoured formats and everybody is better at some formats than others, but Hellmuth gets excessive criticism for not being good at cash games and online.
He doesn't play the cool formats of today (online HU & 6max Cash & live Super High Roller tournaments) and therefore his overall ability is brought into question, so yes, he is under-rated by a certain section of the poker community. For example, nobody questions Fedor Holz' overall ability, even though Hellmuth has been at the top for 30 years and counting.
Fun bits:
Check out King of the Hill from 2017 and an infamous hand vs Jungleman.
Check out NBC National Headsup Poker Championship, winner in 2005 and runner-up in 2013.
His raw ability is definitely under-rated by mainstream fans and younger poker players.
Depending on the format, he is world-class. Obviously live big field NLHE tournaments being his preferred format, but he is very good in live headsup SNG format as well.
Everybody has favoured formats and everybody is better at some formats than others, but Hellmuth gets excessive criticism for not being good at cash games and online.
He doesn't play the cool formats of today (online HU & 6max Cash & live Super High Roller tournaments) and therefore his overall ability is brought into question, so yes, he is under-rated by a certain section of the poker community. For example, nobody questions Fedor Holz' overall ability, even though Hellmuth has been at the top for 30 years and counting.
Fun bits:
Check out King of the Hill from 2017 and an infamous hand vs Jungleman.
Check out NBC National Headsup Poker Championship, winner in 2005 and runner-up in 2013.
Shumkoolie
Legend
Silver Level
100% accurate, but remember, the online regs make up a VERY small number of people in the grand scheme of things. He's a live player anyway, and when things open up again, expect that he'll continue to make a run towards winning future bracelets. He's still young enough that he has time to add to his collection.
It would be interesting to see what number he ends up at. 25? It's not out of the question.
jsnake716
Legend
Bronze Level
I am not going to agree that somehow Phil is a heads-up crusher. I believe Heads-up poker is a different event from Tournament poker. I have to say that Phil takes a bunch of crap from people about how awful he is, BUT his results at big field tournaments tells a different story. Phil has my respect, I am not a fan of his table antics, but he gets the job done.
Good Man
Rock Star
Silver Level
Today I already answered a similar question to one person. Hellmuth has never been lacking in self confidence, calling himself "the best player in the no limit hold'em of all time." In this, of course, he is subjective, but with such an impressive list of titles won, Phil, at least, has the right to make such a statement.
Life is a game , play beautiful
Shells
Moderator
Moderator
Phil Helmuth, Devilfish and Victoria Coren at one table, my favourite clip of all time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liDOZSAiCrY&ab_channel=partypokerTV
Watch as Hellmuth acts like the adult in the room
Actually just watched this video now. Devilfish and The Poker Brat at the same table....now THAT is entertainment.
(I miss Devilfish
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