partypoker is introducing a new coaching tool

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The technology is to use, let's see how this tool works and can help improve the game ... users!:rolleyes:
 
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Sounds good! Will have to give it a try soon :)
 
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Reminded me of PokerSnowie.

The page has randomly opened for me last week I think, it was fun to take a look, but I mostly play MTTs so I'm waiting for a tournament version with great curiosity.

But how can I access this page from the client (as I said it surprisingly opened itself, therefore I don't know where it's located)? Or should I log in on their site, just like for the Wheel which you spin if you made less than 25 points of rake? Can anyone give me a clue?
 
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PartyPoker a little more and I will think about changing the main poker room.;)
 
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This kinda takes the poker out of poker. It assists live play in real time? like playing a bunch of bot controlled humans.
What are they thinking?!
 
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This kinda takes the poker out of poker. It assists live play in real time? like playing a bunch of bot controlled humans.
What are they thinking?!


It seems to be a program similar to leaktracker, which is a function built into pokertracker 4.

What it does is basically analyzes your database of hands played and sees if your stats and frequencies match what it precieves to be optimal stats based on a game theory oriented approach.

It does not tell you to call or fold in a certain spot during gameplay or anything like that, it is used for post-game analysis and finding possible leaks.
 
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I've just recently started playing on party poker after a break entirely from poker. Bit of a controversial time to choose Party Poker as my site it seems!

Have just noticed the 'My Game' feature and think it is actually very good. As someone who previously was using a HUD, it is comforting to be able to see those key stats on my own game to confirm I'm playing solid poker, and see where perhaps I need to adjust. For example I can see that over the 10,000 hands I played over the last week or so I've been at 24 VPIP 18 PFR. Quite a few useful pre and post flop stats are available. The tips and advice seem basic, but by having the potential leaks identified you can always go and look up more detailed strategy advice elsewhere.

Great to be able to see my winrate in bb/100 too. A couple of simple charting tools would be a nice addition to go along with this.

The scorecard grades could be taken with a pinch of salt in some cases, eg I think stats relating to stealing/BB defence and 3/4 betting are going to vary depending on the stakes you play and what your strategy is. This is no different to if you were using the leaktracker in something like PT4 though,'optimum' stats are going to vary a little.

To be critical, the hand re-player is a weak point, would be good to have more functionality here. It shows only a selection of biggest winning and losing pots. You can of course just use the better re-player available in the Party Poker software, where you can see more hands and filter them a bit too. Both re-players would greatly benefit from ability to add notes to villains (and of course be able to see villain names). I appreciate the drive to protect rec players, but I think doing manual reviews and note taking is a bit different to just using a HUD at the tables, and an edge that is deserved if a player is willing to put in the work/time.

Another critical point is that maybe there could be better promotion of this tool. Locating it under the 'Promotions' area of the software seems a strange decision to me, it is easy to miss. In my opinion it needs to be a bit more in your face, so rec players see it and get the opportunity to make use of it, should they want to. There is a 'My Game' tab, but without explanation of what it is I'm not sure everyone is going to check it out immediately.

Anyway with all the heated debate about Party Poker at the moment, I can at least give them a thumbs up for the My Game tool. A useful free tool to do some reasonable analysis on your own play and plug some leaks, if you're willing to put in the effort.
 
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This does for sure help a little bit, now that they will not provide you with hand histories, so that you can use your own software to analyse and track your game. It still does not solve the issue though, that they have made it next to impossible for players to detect any kind of cheating. Which is not great given, that there has just been a large debacle about bots on this exact site. So for me its still going to be thanks but no thanks. I am happy at 888 poker, and if I get tired, I can always go back to Stars.
 
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Yes I do concede that point, and am watching the developments with interest.

I was just reading the statement at https://poker.partypoker.com/en/blog/fair-play.html

It does seem a bit naïve and if they have a major bot/cheating incident there will be an uproar now. And if you were one of those sorts who do the botting/cheating, would this not paint a massive target on Party Poker?

So yes I fully accept this new Party Poker thing might blow up entirely and be a disaster, of some kind. Hadn't seen much written about the My Game anyway, and thought it might be of interest to anyone else who had not seen it.

Excerpt from that link:

#4 Security

We invested heavily in our Game Integrity before making these changes. It wouldn’t be smart to inform bot users, cheats and angle-shooters of our plans, but I will personally be open and transparent on our results and KPIs.
 
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I dont think, it will nessesarely be a disaster. After all other small poker sites like ignition and GG Poker have been run in a similar way for years without blowing up. But I also dont think, it will make poker fun and fair again. If anything it will be less fair, because there will be more people cheating and not less.

Also that Youtube add in the link is just silly. online poker is not going to become live poker, because you make it partly anonymous, and if live poker the pros certainly know, who the fish are, and game selection is a big part of being a poker pro. So why should it be any different online. Its like a casino denying Phil Ivey to play, because he is to good.

So far traffic on Party seem nearly unchanged. Its still around 20% of, what pokerstars see, according to PokerScout.com. Will be interesting to see, what happen in the longer term.
 
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cheers shells.

core stats A
vpip A
pfr A
vpip/prf ratio A
Aggression B

Seems to have alot of info with it so i look forard to looking in to it more.
 
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