Artificial Intelligence Libratus vs Human Poker Players

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I disagree with you! To err is human, and Artificial Intelligence takes mathematically correct decisions and win the race.
As poker players, we make mathematically correct decisions on the poker table and still lose to some fishy players.
Sometimes us human players will fold when we know we're beat and the mathematically correct decision would be wrong.
An AI could make all the mathematically correct decisions but math is of no concern to a calling station.
 
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I think the computers capable of out thinking humans are very big computers not the best buy special . They are not winning full table games . Also if they do start winning multi player games it will be based on todays game . As we are human we figure out that our style of play doesn't work anymore and we adjust it .Now you need to reprogram again and start from scratch .If you've been playing a long time you will realize your game today is much different than it was 20 years ago and if it's not your probably not winning any more .So they need a computer to keep changing its program to adjust I don't know if they can make this
 
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Check out the latest concerning the AI program Libratus:

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Your enthusiasm for AI Libratus tells me that You are preparing for the victory over the intellectual machine.

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Very interesting for a AI v.s. Human match. Artificial intelligence has become more common for every tech companies. Even google and apple are developing artificial intelligence.
 
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It's very bad if a machine plays against you in poker, which does not know what fatigue is !!!! I really hope that poker rooms will find an effective way to fight them (something like anti-virus against bots) !!! I think this is in their best interests !!!
 
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has always been interesting to watch as the AI plays against man
 
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I think that a supercomputer like Libratus that can consistently beat the majority of poker players will likely come about in the next few years, but beating the pros is a whole different game. Poker has a psychological aspect to it that can't be quantified, and so can't be understood and manipulated by computers.
 
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Ive always thought that AI would eventually solve every game.

By playing billions of hands against itself and learning all the time.

What about medicine. If DNA is mapped and can be linked to diseases and all the different hormones can be linked.

Would they be able to give a virtual machine something like a synthetic Cancer or another condition/disease and then fire every possible combination of medicine and alter DNA to see if it could cure them??
 
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I think that a supercomputer like Libratus that can consistently beat the majority of poker players will likely come about in the next few years, but beating the pros is a whole different game. Poker has a psychological aspect to it that can't be quantified, and so can't be understood and manipulated by computers.
Psychology can be both good and bad.

A machine will always have the advantage with Tilt as it cant throw itself out of the window LOL
 
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Your enthusiasm for AI Libratus tells me that You are preparing for the victory over the intellectual machine.

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I would do my best! :p

Ive always thought that AI would eventually solve every game.

By playing billions of hands against itself and learning all the time.

What about medicine. If DNA is mapped and can be linked to diseases and all the different hormones can be linked.

Would they be able to give a virtual machine something like a synthetic Cancer or another condition/disease and then fire every possible combination of medicine and alter DNA to see if it could cure them??
AI is the wave of the future for sure. It is already being integrated into a number of programs and Apps. Think "Smart" anything: we have our homes hooked up to apps that "know" when to turn the light on or off, when and how to set the thermostat, and so much more. It really all boils down in the end to how accurate the data is that we input into these AI programs. We use AI programs every day, and may not even know it. Some of them can "think" and problem-solve for themselves. Google translate was recently revamped with new AI software, and it taught itself a new language to help itself translate better. :eek: http://www.wired.co.uk/article/google-ai-language-create
 
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I don't think that a supercomputer beating humans is supposed to be that shocking. Computers don't get upset or tilted after losing a hand, they don't get tired after a long session. That's a huge part of poker.
 
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It would mean the end of HONEST online poker.To identify the strongest player and so are used in live tournaments.Soon online poker will be only those who want to be deceived...

honest online poker probably already gone,
at the moment, artificial intelligence is unable to think for themselves, he considers algorithms prescribed by the programmer, and the person who is playing against a bot, will always win
 
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The main limitation(disadvantage) Libratus is that the effective and successful it can play only heads up and only no-limit hold'em. Make Libratus to play against more players and it will immediately turn into a "fish", which first plays at the poker table. It does not matter whether this table 4-max, 6-max table or any other larger format. At Libratus simply will not appear baseline data to play simultaneously against several opponents at once.

In addition, the original data in which Libratus started every heads-up match was always the same. The initial stack size was always 200 big blinds and the blind levels have always been one. Make Libratus play with stacks of different depths and it immediately loses much of its effectiveness.
 
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I think it's just a matter of time before bots can win on the lower limits even in full-ring.
It will be interesting to see what the poker-rooms do, because they get the rake no matter who plays.
Maybe not allowing mucked hands to be visible in the hand-history or even completly shuting down the hand history feature (not allowing to save it or even look at it) will be the consequence - just like in live poker:)
Is than the question, who profits more from a HUD a human player or the AI??
 
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Is there somewhere the hands played by the libratus to analyze?
 
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What I find interesting is that if a computer were to beat poker now, it would be because it has trained on the current strategies and techniques being used. A change in strategy could be used to beat the computer for some period of time (until it relearns what your new strategy is)
 
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