What do you think? Is this bots playing?

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ScumbyG

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Americas Card Room is a complete fraud. Just to give everyone a heads up if you play there,watch out for all the players that don't have a city or country in their profile,they are fake players,house players IMO.Upon signing up on ACR it is required and mandatory to add your city and country or you cannot join nor can you edit these out after joining. You will also notice these players are usually almost always chip leaders.I confronted ACR about these players & yes they admitted that all players are required to have city & country in their profile or cannot join.So how are these players on this site & on just about every table I play on.I myself, IMO think they are planted by the site to scam legit players and its very odd how they always only play hands that hit.Here is a chat I had with them once when I was suspicious of certain players.You can see at the end where they admit these are house players in which means this site is a complete fraud. I would go somewhere else but I am USA and there is really no where else,they know and take advantage of that too. Just putting this out there. Oh wait Im crazy & need meds as the usual cheater would accuse me of after calling them out.:reddy:

| 08.07.2018 19:20:53 | G: I have a question
| 08.07.2018 19:21:23 | Richard: Hello G, my name is Richard M, how may I help you?
| 08.07.2018 19:21:37 | G: How is there 2 players on this table im on,both joined the exact same day & both do not have a city in their profile
| 08.07.2018 19:22:00 | G: mimimb and PHw2dsi are their names
| 08.07.2018 19:22:09 | G: are these planted house players or something
| 08.07.2018 19:22:18 | G: please explain
| 08.07.2018 19:22:47 | Richard: Which is the name of the game , game ID and amount of buy in
| 08.07.2018 19:23:15 | G: Its a low stakes tourney (8799338)
| 08.07.2018 19:23:38 | G: one is getting ready to go out because i called him out in chat
| 08.07.2018 19:23:46 | G: hes running
| 08.07.2018 19:24:17 | G: now hes off the table but that is very suspisious to me
| 08.07.2018 19:24:29 | G: I would look into both those players
| 08.07.2018 19:24:41 | Richard: let me check
| 08.07.2018 19:25:32 | G: when people join your site it is mandentory to put a city & state in our profile,how do these players not have that
| 08.07.2018 19:26:20 | G: these kind of players are all over your site about on ever table
| 08.07.2018 19:26:26 | G: please expalin
| 08.07.2018 19:26:35 | G: are these your house players?
| 08.07.2018 19:27:00 | Richard: yes, sir
| 08.07.2018 19:27:22 | G: really that would mean this is a fraud
| 08.07.2018 19:27:48 | G: no wonder why these players are always chip leaders
 
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angelamsmith05

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Oh no! I have never noticed that. I am going to log on and see for myself.
 
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jospel

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agreed

i have felt acr is quite a shady site from the beginning
 
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enable2shyne

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heard

I have always suspected that of the freerolls they run...but you know what is also wrong with them....the amazing number of runner runner gut shots that occur...that seems to be their algorithm's number one way to set someone up or keep the knock outs coming
 
okeedokalee

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How much did you lose? This is a dummy spit. Learn to play and you won't get so upset.
For your information ACR is a very professional site.
I make most of my profit there.
There are many other sites why do you worry about ACR. Go play on these other sites, you will still lose, who will you blame then.
 
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kygamblr09

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I'm not sure about the admittance in the acr vs player chat. The one and only thing i know is that ACR & party poker are the only 2 sites i can say has sent me my money on withdrawals. No questions asked besides normal id requirements. Well full tilt poker actually excepted my withdrawals but always took there sweet time to pay and then i ended up reversing the withdrawal but hey thats on me . So all i know is ACR pays and they pay faster than they say in my dealings with them. No i don't work for them nor am i affiliated with them by no means. Just my story and thats my only opinion i can give. Sorry that a house player, bot, multi player took your money but i don;t think that we can get around any of that. Or you can choose not to play at all and keep your online money for live poker. Gl either way
 
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I felt that this was going on. If true why is there some much shady stuff going on with online poker you would think there's plenty of money to be made without this type of stuff.
 
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Americas Card Room is a complete fraud. Just to give everyone a heads up if you play there,watch out for all the players that don't have a city or country in their profile,they are fake players,house players IMO.Upon signing up on ACR it is required and mandatory to add your city and country or you cannot join nor can you edit these out after joining. You will also notice these players are usually almost always chip leaders.I confronted ACR about these players & yes they admitted that all players are required to have city & country in their profile or cannot join.So how are these players on this site & on just about every table I play on.I myself, IMO think they are planted by the site to scam legit players and its very odd how they always only play hands that hit.Here is a chat I had with them once when I was suspicious of certain players.You can see at the end where they admit these are house players in which means this site is a complete fraud. I would go somewhere else but I am USA and there is really no where else,they know and take advantage of that too. Just putting this out there. Oh wait Im crazy & need meds as the usual cheater would accuse me of after calling them out.:reddy:
I don't know the answer to this for sure, but I do know there are more skins on WPN than just ACR. THere is Ya, True Poker, Black Chip Poker, PokerHost. I don't know if all the skins have the same requirements as far as information listed like country and city. And I think if any site was using house players they would have a city and country listed and would not draw attention by not having them listed, so I find your accusation silly. Like I said I don't know the answer but I could throw out some more plausible options like a skin does not require city, country or maybe all skins require city, country but they don't show to players who are not playing on the same skin or something like that. I know you can't transfer money from skin to skin so some other situations like not being able to see some data from other skins during play would not surprise me.
I think WPN whatever the issue should fix it and have all data visible from skin to skin or make all skins require and display the same data if that is not already the case and this is some other issue.

I recommend you ask ACR Rep in the Official ACR Thread https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-rooms-10/official-acr-thread-217550/ for an answer and to address the issue with WPN. I am sure he will help and hopefully get a resolution in spite of your silly accusations.

I have no faith in your chat log.
 
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playinggameswithu

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ACR is a solid room. Can't wait for the upcoming OSS series. OP sounds hurt to me.
 
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patfreed

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You used "IMO" multiple times in your post. Your opinion is wrong. You are upset about losing. Look inward and stop blaming things you have no clue about. Fix the holes in your own game.
 
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ScumbyG said:
I would go somewhere else but I am USA and there is really no where else,they know and take advantage of that too.
I'm sorry but this just doesn't make sense. If a site is really rigged, and they're really stacking it up against you, then why in the hell do you still play there?? I don't get it.
 
bekel285

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acr isn't rigged and neither are any of the other 7 networks I play on. If your losing blame either variance or your skill level not the poker site.
 
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I'm sorry but this just doesn't make sense. If a site is really rigged, and they're really stacking it up against you, then why in the hell do you still play there?? I don't get it.
Not only that but they wouldn't admit it like the OP has portrayed in his version of the chat log.

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ScumbyG

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My answer to you

Americas Card Room is a complete fraud. Just to give everyone a heads up if you play there,watch out for all the players that don't have a city or country in their profile,they are fake players,house players IMO.Upon signing up on ACR it is required and mandatory to add your city and country or you cannot join nor can you edit these out after joining. You will also notice these players are usually almost always chip leaders.I confronted ACR about these players & yes they admitted that all players are required to have city & country in their profile or cannot join.So how are these players on this site & on just about every table I play on.I myself, IMO think they are planted by the site to scam legit players and its very odd how they always only play hands that hit.Here is a chat I had with them once when I was suspicious of certain players.You can see at the end where they admit these are house players in which means this site is a complete fraud. I would go somewhere else but I am USA and there is really no where else,they know and take advantage of that too. Just putting this out there. Oh wait Im crazy & need meds as the usual cheater would accuse me of after calling them out.:reddy:

| 08.07.2018 19:20:53 | G: I have a question
| 08.07.2018 19:21:23 | Richard: Hello G, my name is Richard M, how may I help you?
| 08.07.2018 19:21:37 | G: How is there 2 players on this table im on,both joined the exact same day & both do not have a city in their profile
| 08.07.2018 19:22:00 | G: mimimb and PHw2dsi are their names
| 08.07.2018 19:22:09 | G: are these planted house players or something
| 08.07.2018 19:22:18 | G: please explain
| 08.07.2018 19:22:47 | Richard: Which is the name of the game , game ID and amount of buy in
| 08.07.2018 19:23:15 | G: Its a low stakes tourney (8799338)
| 08.07.2018 19:23:38 | G: one is getting ready to go out because i called him out in chat
| 08.07.2018 19:23:46 | G: hes running
| 08.07.2018 19:24:17 | G: now hes off the table but that is very suspisious to me
| 08.07.2018 19:24:29 | G: I would look into both those players
| 08.07.2018 19:24:41 | Richard: let me check
| 08.07.2018 19:25:32 | G: when people join your site it is mandentory to put a city & state in our profile,how do these players not have that
| 08.07.2018 19:26:20 | G: these kind of players are all over your site about on ever table
| 08.07.2018 19:26:26 | G: please expalin
| 08.07.2018 19:26:35 | G: are these your house players?
| 08.07.2018 19:27:00 | Richard: yes, sir
| 08.07.2018 19:27:22 | G: really that would mean this is a fraud
| 08.07.2018 19:27:48 | G: no wonder why these players are always chip leaders



I didn't lose money,I was just warning people of the crooked things I have experienced on ACR. I have been playing online poker since 2004(Party Poker when it accepted USA players) and any of you that defend ACR and have been playing online as long as I have you would know online poker sites are in fact crooked,some worse than others & ACR is terrible, worse than UB ever was. Im sure there's a couple of you defending ACR are some of those crooked players I encounter on the site every day.There are really no other sites to play on being a USA player. Yes Patfreed IMO
so bite me:stupido:
 
smallfrie

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I didn't lose money,I was just warning people of the crooked things I have experienced on ACR. I have been playing online poker since 2004(Party Poker when it accepted USA players) and any of you that defend ACR and have been playing online as long as I have you would know online poker sites are in fact crooked,some worse than others & ACR is terrible, worse than UB ever was. Im sure there's a couple of you defending ACR are some of those crooked players I encounter on the site every day.There are really no other sites to play on being a USA player. Yes Patfreed IMO
so bite me:stupido:
So you didn't lose money but claim site is crooked and a fraud lol. You waited 14 years to make your first CardsChat post and this is what you came up with.

 
NinjaHands

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How much did you lose? This is a dummy spit. Learn to play and you won't get so upset.
For your information ACR is a very professional site.
I make most of my profit there.
There are many other sites why do you worry about ACR. Go play on these other sites, you will still lose, who will you blame then.


This.
ACR has been around for a long time and it has been scrutinized. Bad beats happen. I understand. Blaming ACR will not make you the money back.
 
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I never had problems in ACR, in fact it is in the poker room that I have gained more in this year, play for the first time thanks to Cardchat and so far I have made 4 withdrawals of money without any problem, once I won $ 25 in the cardschat freeroll and that win the multiply x $ 140 playing holdem tables and withdraw my winnings
 
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Americas Card Room is a complete fraud. Just to give everyone a heads up if you play there,watch out for all the players that don't have a city or country in their profile,they are fake players,house players IMO.Upon signing up on ACR it is required and mandatory to add your city and country or you cannot join nor can you edit these out after joining. You will also notice these players are usually almost always chip leaders.I confronted ACR about these players & yes they admitted that all players are required to have city & country in their profile or cannot join.So how are these players on this site & on just about every table I play on.I myself, IMO think they are planted by the site to scam legit players and its very odd how they always only play hands that hit.Here is a chat I had with them once when I was suspicious of certain players.You can see at the end where they admit these are house players in which means this site is a complete fraud. I would go somewhere else but I am USA and there is really no where else,they know and take advantage of that too. Just putting this out there. Oh wait Im crazy & need meds as the usual cheater would accuse me of after calling them out.:reddy:

| 08.07.2018 19:20:53 | G: I have a question
| 08.07.2018 19:21:23 | Richard: Hello G, my name is Richard M, how may I help you?
| 08.07.2018 19:21:37 | G: How is there 2 players on this table im on,both joined the exact same day & both do not have a city in their profile
| 08.07.2018 19:22:00 | G: mimimb and PHw2dsi are their names
| 08.07.2018 19:22:09 | G: are these planted house players or something
| 08.07.2018 19:22:18 | G: please explain
| 08.07.2018 19:22:47 | Richard: Which is the name of the game , game ID and amount of buy in
| 08.07.2018 19:23:15 | G: Its a low stakes tourney (8799338)
| 08.07.2018 19:23:38 | G: one is getting ready to go out because i called him out in chat
| 08.07.2018 19:23:46 | G: hes running
| 08.07.2018 19:24:17 | G: now hes off the table but that is very suspisious to me
| 08.07.2018 19:24:29 | G: I would look into both those players
| 08.07.2018 19:24:41 | Richard: let me check
| 08.07.2018 19:25:32 | G: when people join your site it is mandentory to put a city & state in our profile,how do these players not have that
| 08.07.2018 19:26:20 | G: these kind of players are all over your site about on ever table
| 08.07.2018 19:26:26 | G: please expalin
| 08.07.2018 19:26:35 | G: are these your house players?
| 08.07.2018 19:27:00 | Richard: yes, sir
| 08.07.2018 19:27:22 | G: really that would mean this is a fraud
| 08.07.2018 19:27:48 | G: no wonder why these players are always chip leaders


I'm really sorry but this is totally incorrect. I checked with one of our Supervisors and he checked all the conversation you had with the agent. And here is not the full conversation. If you want, you can contact our CS department and tell them to provide the full chat history of this conversation in case you don't have it.
 
edc1

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I read the chat ,if there was some type of fraud going on acr rep certainly wouldn't admit to it in chat.it doesn't make sense that he said yes to house players im sur there is more to this maybe some chat was left out who knows,ive seen some crazy hands on acr,also on fullflush,blackchip,pokerstars,fulltilt it might seem like its rigged somehow but I think not,you just see way more hands online than live,with that many hands your going to see some crazy hands
 
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ScumbyG

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ACR FRAUD

Americas Card Room is a complete fraud. Just to give everyone a heads up if you play there,watch out for all the players that don't have a city or country in their profile,they are fake players,house players IMO.Upon signing up on ACR it is required and mandatory to add your city and country or you cannot join nor can you edit these out after joining. You will also notice these players are usually almost always chip leaders.I confronted ACR about these players & yes they admitted that all players are required to have city & country in their profile or cannot join.So how are these players on this site & on just about every table I play on.I myself, IMO think they are planted by the site to scam legit players and its very odd how they always only play hands that hit.Here is a chat I had with them once when I was suspicious of certain players.You can see at the end where they admit these are house players in which means this site is a complete fraud. I would go somewhere else but I am USA and there is really no where else,they know and take advantage of that too. Just putting this out there. Oh wait Im crazy & need meds as the usual cheater would accuse me of after calling them out.:reddy:

| 08.07.2018 19:20:53 | G: I have a question
| 08.07.2018 19:21:23 | Richard: Hello G, my name is Richard M, how may I help you?
| 08.07.2018 19:21:37 | G: How is there 2 players on this table im on,both joined the exact same day & both do not have a city in their profile
| 08.07.2018 19:22:00 | G: mimimb and PHw2dsi are their names
| 08.07.2018 19:22:09 | G: are these planted house players or something
| 08.07.2018 19:22:18 | G: please explain
| 08.07.2018 19:22:47 | Richard: Which is the name of the game , game ID and amount of buy in
| 08.07.2018 19:23:15 | G: Its a low stakes tourney (8799338)
| 08.07.2018 19:23:38 | G: one is getting ready to go out because i called him out in chat
| 08.07.2018 19:23:46 | G: hes running
| 08.07.2018 19:24:17 | G: now hes off the table but that is very suspisious to me
| 08.07.2018 19:24:29 | G: I would look into both those players
| 08.07.2018 19:24:41 | Richard: let me check
| 08.07.2018 19:25:32 | G: when people join your site it is mandentory to put a city & state in our profile,how do these players not have that
| 08.07.2018 19:26:20 | G: these kind of players are all over your site about on ever table
| 08.07.2018 19:26:26 | G: please expalin
| 08.07.2018 19:26:35 | G: are these your house players?
| 08.07.2018 19:27:00 | Richard: yes, sir
| 08.07.2018 19:27:22 | G: really that would mean this is a fraud
| 08.07.2018 19:27:48 | G: no wonder why these players are always chip leaders



Would you look at this,all these people defending ACR are actual ACR reps,what a crooked site! Guess what,I played two tourneys today,both winners were players with no city or country in their profile,yep its just a great site to play on.:evil:
 
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ScumbyG

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I'm really sorry but this is totally incorrect. I checked with one of our Supervisors and he checked all the conversation you had with the agent. And here is not the full conversation. If you want, you can contact our CS department and tell them to provide the full chat history of this conversation in case you don't have it.



This is what was emailed to me,if there is any more to this conversation,it was after I logged out of chat.Sounds like to me your just trying to cover your ass for being such scams.Sites like this just ruin poker for me.Yeah there's a lot of suckers out there and the cheaters are the ones that benefit off this place.:elefant:
 
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ScumbyG

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One last hint to look for at ACR or most crooked poker sites in general

Here's another thing you can do to pin point a cheater while playing on ACR. If you have certain players on the table that run their clock down every single time they play a hand & seem to only play the hands that hit,yes there is something going on.Check your temp folder by going to /Start/in the search type in %temp% if your temp folders are doubled up then yes this player is doing something crooked to see cards through the unsecure server...Hacksville:driver: Use your firewall and run your cleaners.
 
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