What do you think? Is this bots playing?

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Yep

Im calling out all you ACR fkers out now:deal:
 
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I'm really sorry but this is totally incorrect. I checked with one of our Supervisors and he checked all the conversation you had with the agent. And here is not the full conversation. If you want, you can contact our CS department and tell them to provide the full chat history of this conversation in case you don't have it.


OUCH. OP has been rekt.

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OUCH. OP has been rekt.

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They still haven't explained how these certain players (Whom are always chip leaders) have no city or country in their profile.That is mandatory for real players,you can't even sign up w/o doing so. hmmmm nothings goin on here:laugh:
 
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This is correct

I'm really sorry but this is totally incorrect. I checked with one of our Supervisors and he checked all the conversation you had with the agent. And here is not the full conversation. If you want, you can contact our CS department and tell them to provide the full chat history of this conversation in case you don't have it.



This is %100 correct people this ACR Rep is just trying to cover their asses:rock:
 
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For Your Information

Not only that but they wouldn't admit it like the OP has portrayed in his version of the chat log.

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This chat log is %100 correct,this is what ACR emailed me,the ACR rep is just trying to cover they'er asses. They still haven't explained how these certain players (Whom are always chip leaders) have no city or country in their profile.That is mandatory for real players,you can't even sign up w/o doing so. hmmmm nothings goin on here :icon_puke
 
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It was Aliens

I'm sorry but this just doesn't make sense. If a site is really rigged, and they're really stacking it up against you, then why in the hell do you still play there?? I don't get it.


Because it was the aliens:alien:
 
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I wouldn't have thought so either

I read the chat ,if there was some type of fraud going on acr rep certainly wouldn't admit to it in chat.it doesn't make sense that he said yes to house players im sur there is more to this maybe some chat was left out who knows,ive seen some crazy hands on acr,also on fullflush,blackchip,pokerstars,fulltilt it might seem like its rigged somehow but I think not,you just see way more hands online than live,with that many hands your going to see some crazy hands


When i was in chat,I was very surprised the ACR rep admitted it,they usually never do & turn their backs on every report but this time he actually did,that's why I posted this.:ahhhhh:
 
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%100 Correct

I don't know the answer to this for sure, but I do know there are more skins on WPN than just ACR. THere is Ya, True Poker, Black Chip Poker, PokerHost. I don't know if all the skins have the same requirements as far as information listed like country and city. And I think if any site was using house players they would have a city and country listed and would not draw attention by not having them listed, so I find your accusation silly. Like I said I don't know the answer but I could throw out some more plausible options like a skin does not require city, country or maybe all skins require city, country but they don't show to players who are not playing on the same skin or something like that. I know you can't transfer money from skin to skin so some other situations like not being able to see some data from other skins during play would not surprise me.
I think WPN whatever the issue should fix it and have all data visible from skin to skin or make all skins require and display the same data if that is not already the case and this is some other issue.

I recommend you ask ACR Rep in the Official ACR Thread https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-rooms-10/official-acr-thread-217550/ for an answer and to address the issue with WPN. I am sure he will help and hopefully get a resolution in spite of your silly accusations.

I have no faith in your chat log.

This chat log is %100 correct,this is what ACR emailed me,the ACR rep is just trying to cover they'er asses. They still haven't explained how these certain players (Whom are always chip leaders) have no city or country in their profile.That is mandatory for real players,you can't even sign up w/o doing so. hmmmm nothings goin on here
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Thanks for the heads-up about ACR. I guess they will get what is coming to them if they let stuff like this slide. I won't deposit another dime in their site.
 
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show me that you can earn a lot of other sites and there I give you a reason
 
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They still haven't explained how these certain players (Whom are always chip leaders) have no city or country in their profile.That is mandatory for real players,you can't even sign up w/o doing so. hmmmm nothings goin on here:laugh:

I've been following this thread with popcorn. And while I won't necessarily defend ACR (and WPN), I will point out that you're wrong that players are required to display their city/country to other players across WPN skins. For example many people play on WPN's BlackChip Poker skin which SHARES player pools with other WPN skins (such as ACR) so maybe ACR "requires" it on their skin...but in shared player pools I doubt that matters.

So either WPN "requires" the city/country public display on ALL skins and if they don't then it's a skin by skin requirement so not really sure how other skins not requiring the city/country display in your mind translates into "they must be house players and no one can sign up without displaying it...." when in fact players can and do on other skins every day.

Maybe play on another network or you know become a better player instead of making up chat logs and crying foul?:D Because your "claims" make zero sense and contradict themselves multiple times. Perhaps spend less time trolling and more time working on your game? Good grief, its garbage like this that turns more new players off to playing more poker. Sure being cautious is one thing but spreading bizarre conspiracy theories as to why you can't see a player's country/city of origin when it's not required anyways is just silly.
 
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For the ones who have questions regarding the profile information: Players you are not able to see their city and country information is because they belong to one of our partners. So, players that belong from the same network they can see their profile information but, if they don't belong to the same network, they will not be able to see that information.
 
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For the ones who have questions regarding the profile information: Players you are not able to see their city and country information is because they belong to one of our partners. So, players that belong from the same network they can see their profile information but, if they don't belong to the same network, they will not be able to see that information.


Honestly, whoever thought that seeing city/states is a mark of honest play needs to explain that to me LOL. How does that mean anything? Obviously it doesn't.

Thanks for clearing that up, Rep ;):D
 
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Honestly, whoever thought that seeing city/states is a mark of honest play needs to explain that to me LOL. How does that mean anything? Obviously it doesn't.

Thanks for clearing that up, Rep ;):D


With pleasure! :)
 
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I've been following this thread with popcorn. And while I won't necessarily defend ACR (and WPN), I will point out that you're wrong that players are required to display their city/country to other players across WPN skins. For example many people play on WPN's BlackChip Poker skin which SHARES player pools with other WPN skins (such as ACR) so maybe ACR "requires" it on their skin...but in shared player pools I doubt that matters.

So either WPN "requires" the city/country public display on ALL skins and if they don't then it's a skin by skin requirement so not really sure how other skins not requiring the city/country display in your mind translates into "they must be house players and no one can sign up without displaying it...." when in fact players can and do on other skins every day.

Maybe play on another network or you know become a better player instead of making up chat logs and crying foul?:D Because your "claims" make zero sense and contradict themselves multiple times. Perhaps spend less time trolling and more time working on your game? Good grief, its garbage like this that turns more new players off to playing more poker. Sure being cautious is one thing but spreading bizarre conspiracy theories as to why you can't see a player's country/city of origin when it's not required anyways is just silly.


Yeah Your not a ACR rep riiiight! you big,me little:saint:
 
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Yeah Your not a ACR rep riiiight! you big,me little:saint:

Not even sure what "you big me little means" Sounds like a troll. And no I'm not an ACR rep, where does that bizarre accusation come from? If you're citing my statement about some skins not requiring public display of country/city, you're welcome to test that theory out...I mean I know on the WPN skin I have they don't require it. Don't believe me, try it for yourself. I've been a forum member here since 2010 and I assure you I do not work for any poker room. You're welcome to ask the admins here or ask any poker room site if I have any affiliation with them. In the meantime go make an account on another WPN skin and let us know if they "require" country/city to be displayed.

Seems like an influx of trolls and spammers attacking one site or another lately on here or making bizarre absurd claims.
 
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This clears nothing up. There is NOT ONE real money poker site on the entire web that will let you gamble money w/o registering & adding all your information. So my question is who are these players all over ACR w/o information in their profiles? Why are they always the ones winning all the tournaments and always seem to be chip leaders on the tables.I suspect something isn't right myself:confused:

That's correct. But OP's wild claim was that because this information was not displayed publicly then they MUST be house players or something MUST be "off."

Of course all sites require you to provide this information. Whether it's displayed publically is another thing and should be optional (as it it is on MOST sites).

What a silly thought process. Then again this explains a lot about the state of politics in multiple countries lately. People jump to absurd wild conspiracies before considering rational and common sense reasons for the situation. In this case : no you aren't required to display your city/country of origin to other players on most sites. That's common sense and no more unusual than the fact that you can go into a live casino poker room and play without telling players where you live. Good grief.

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Not even sure what "you big me little means" Sounds like a troll. And no I'm not an ACR rep, where does that bizarre accusation come from? If you're citing my statement about some skins not requiring public display of country/city, you're welcome to test that theory out...I mean I know on the WPN skin I have they don't require it. Don't believe me, try it for yourself. I've been a forum member here since 2010 and I assure you I do not work for any poker room. You're welcome to ask the admins here or ask any poker room site if I have any affiliation with them. In the meantime go make an account on another WPN skin and let us know if they "require" country/city to be displayed.

Seems like an influx of trolls and spammers attacking one site or another lately on here or making bizarre absurd claims.


I myself thought of this because I play on many poker sites that are in this network.I went to a few & no,you cannot edit city or state out nor hide this info so i think it is a legit question in my OP. Who are these players? How are they able to gamble playing real money poker with no information in profile when it is required. Why are these players always chip leaders & winning a lot of the tournaments? and for the record you do sound like a rep covering for ACR but that's your deal:eek2:
 
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That's correct. But OP's wild claim was that because this information was not displayed publicly then they MUST be house players or something MUST be "off."

Of course all sites require you to provide this information. Whether it's displayed publically is another thing and should be optional (as it it is on MOST sites).

What a silly thought process. Then again this explains a lot about the state of politics in multiple countries lately. People jump to absurd wild conspiracies before considering rational and common sense reasons for the situation. In this case : no you aren't required to display your city/country of origin to other players on most sites. That's common sense and no more unusual than the fact that you can go into a live casino poker room and play without telling players where you live. Good grief.

Thinking. It does a mind good.


Damn I haven't said one bad thing about you so go good grief somewhere else.I have a right to post my experiences with this site and qustion things on it as well. I had my chat with ACR they said "Yes Sir" so that means "Yes Sir" I don't think any amount of chat can change that. I'm not stupid I know when I'm being had, good day:icon_rr:
 
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yes ACR is one of the room where there are more bots playing than all the other rooms, this is like a virus that spreads through the rooms, poker and the worst that every day increases, pokerstar and 888, there is still very little because security theirs is the bestst,
 
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yes ACR it is one of the room where there are more bots gambandos than all the other rooms, this is like a virus that spreads through the rooms, poker and the worst that every day increases, pokerstar and 888, there is still very little , because their safety are the best,

Thanks I would love to play at those sites.I have heard good things but I am USA and stuck with very little options. :tomato:
 
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That's correct. But OP's wild claim was that because this information was not displayed publicly then they MUST be house players or something MUST be "off."

Of course all sites require you to provide this information. Whether it's displayed publically is another thing and should be optional (as it it is on MOST sites).

What a silly thought process. Then again this explains a lot about the state of politics in multiple countries lately. People jump to absurd wild conspiracies before considering rational and common sense reasons for the situation. In this case : no you aren't required to display your city/country of origin to other players on most sites. That's common sense and no more unusual than the fact that you can go into a live casino poker room and play without telling players where you live. Good grief.

Thinking. It does a mind good.

One last comment on your good grief comment. At the casino i don't have to worry about playing bots & hackers trying to see cards or house players .So no I don't need to know where they live but this has nothing to do with knowing where someone lives,its about requirements and how they don't apply to everyone as they should while playing on these sites.:captain:
 
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This clears nothing up. There is NOT ONE real money poker site on the entire web that will let you gamble money w/o registering & adding all your information. So my question is who are these players all over ACR w/o information in their profiles? Why are they always the ones winning all the tournaments and always seem to be chip leaders on the tables.I suspect something isn't right myself:confused:

I myself thought of this because I play on many poker sites that are in this network.I went to a few & no,you cannot edit city or state out nor hide this info so i think it is a legit question in my OP. Who are these players? How are they able to gamble playing real money poker with no information in profile when it is required. Why are these players always chip leaders & winning a lot of the tournaments? and for the record you do sound like a rep covering for ACR but that's your deal:eek2:

Do either of you have screenshots that show that all poker sites require public display of city/country locations? Otherwise no one is going to consider your absurd claims.

Also if you're playing on multiple skins of the same site at the same time usually that's against the site's TOS.

You keep saying this information is required, but why can't you understand it's not required to be publicly displayed on all sites?

Want to prove me right? Make a poll here and ask if sites players play on require public display of location. You'll see most don't.

Why are these players winning? I don't know, maybe they spend more time working on their game and less time making up wild theories as to why they lose?

Again I don't work for any site or forum in poker and you can confirm that easily with any entity you choose. This forum has plenty of resources available on how to become a winning player...maybe check those out.

Likely you're just frustrated with bad beats and poor play. We've all been there for sure. Good luck and check out all the free guides and resources here to improve your play.
 
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Do either of you have screenshots that show that all poker sites require public display of city/country locations? Otherwise no one is going to consider your absurd claims.

Also if you're playing on multiple skins of the same site at the same time usually that's against the site's TOS.

You keep saying this information is required, but why can't you understand it's not required to be publicly displayed on all sites?

Want to prove me right? Make a poll here and ask if sites players play on require public display of location. You'll see most don't.

Why are these players winning? I don't know, maybe they spend more time working on their game and less time making up wild theories as to why they lose?

Again I don't work for any site or forum in poker and you can confirm that easily with any entity you choose. This forum has plenty of resources available on how to become a winning player...maybe check those out.

Likely you're just frustrated with bad beats and poor play. We've all been there for sure. Good luck and check out all the free guides and resources here to improve your play.


This guy is definitely some sort of rep or something the way he so eager to defend these sites. You go pro!:lollypop:
 
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One last comment on your good grief comment. At the casino i don't have to worry about playing bots & hackers trying to see cards or house players .So no I don't need to know where they live but this has nothing to do with knowing where someone lives,its about requirements and how they don't apply to everyone as they should while playing on these sites.:captain:

Yeah bots are a problem on many poker sites. How does this matter in terms of players' choice as to whether or not the player chooses to display their location?

I mean I'm playing right now on Bovada and BetOnline...neither require or even have a setting to show player location. I also have accounts on Blackchip Poker (a skin of WPN) and I don't believe location is required to be displayed. I also have a PokerstarsNJ account and location seems to be required (likely for state law geofencing requirements) but seems most sites don't require it. On intertops account it seems to be a user setting option to show or not show.

Not sure how your argument makes any sense at all.

Just because a site makes it OPTIONAL (if at all) to show one's location during play, doesn't mean anything. At all. Because it depends on the site specific requirements and user settings allowed by the site.

Based on your flawed logic I guess BetOnline, Bovada, and any other site that doesn't require or even offer the option to display location info publicly during play must be suspect.

When you sign up for a poker site account they require you provide your location information correct? And they, like any site (even outside of poker), make clear that they may collect your IP information and location information right? So let's understand your argument again....because the site lets some users hide their location from other players (which other sites do)...they must be doing something shady right? Is that what you're saying?

By the way hate to burst your bubble but casinos have been known to hire house players. Not for any nefarious purposes...but rather to fill seats. :D
 
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