puzzlefish
student of the donk arts
Loyaler
Just watch today's poker stars livestream for the Millions main event. Watch the complete absurdity of this RNG. KK getting wrecked 6 or 7 times, only winning with walks.
Adi8877
Visionary
Silver Level
Actually, that I complain about it a lot, I still profitable, but itis annoying that I must count on it, how I forced to play with out of range cards, because my moonsters burnt or i know it will burn later on in that tourney . nowadays I am in a long run ,okayy notso long ,but almost 2 weeks, 'bad beat' or what the hell they call this crap,when you lose 10-90% with monsters preflop allin + the AKo andAKs, today from5 times 5 times lost, only once against pocket pair, Ax and Kx and this is going on every day,even today I played just freerolls, and have fun on this run,as i know it last forfew moredays,weeks.... once it happened with mefor 1,5 months,was unbelievable, never got it backthatone neitheer,how i never will this one neither, thatis annoying too....if it works to one direction should go to the othertoo...
and of course, it affects the profitability, even imake profitenough good on the level i play, but it isgenerally drivesmecrazy,angry,insane,when5-6 days a week itislikethat,at least5-6 and simply out of reality, all the poker'trainers' can throw all their 'knowledge' to the bin, when it comes....if you fllow any of them, and their 'advise' you are goingto bethe fish andloser 100%..... i agree,forget real, live poker variance in online poker, because it does NOT work....
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FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
Adi8877
Visionary
Silver Level
I left pokerstars years ago, how i know 20+ players whose did the same, because of the same reason.....and all of them profitable live players, even online profitable.... one of them was online high roller, too, he just stopped playing totally, because he does not go back online and he can't travel, even if he can the opponents won't....
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FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
puzzlefish
student of the donk arts
Loyaler
He is saying pro players are leaving Stars because of the ricdiculous slot machine style RNG.
So what exactly do you mean by "on occasion"? Because it definitely isn't just once in a while.
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Jedrey
Visionary
Bronze Level
I don't know if there are any numbers, or if it is just chance, or it may be the luck of the other, but sometimes there are some surreal turns at the tables, but it can also be because of us, because who chooses whether to go or not we are .. more that gives anger gives rs
puzzlefish
student of the donk arts
Loyaler
It's definitely not exclusive to Stars.
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digdug0037
Rock Star
Silver Level
Yeah, you are going to see alot more of everything online as you are going to see a ton more hands. Is there a chance that there are hands that do not make any sense? Yes of coarse, I have added to my game, gut instinct. I am paying more attention to who is sitting at my tables and how they are playing every street. Their betting patterns etc. I am trying to learn to put down more hands no matter what, sometimes you just have to believe you may lose with the best current hand. I am seeing deeper runs and more cashes by using more of my gut instincts and avoiding bad beats. Am I wrong sometimes, probaly more than a few, but the times I am right may be the times I get a nice bink later!
Johnny78B
Legend
Platinum Level
There are difference between live and online poker. Some good live players can not play online and vice versa. That depends how you usually used to play. About bad beats in online sure you can meet more often but also in live poker you can see a really incredible things. So this what it is.
puzzlefish
student of the donk arts
Loyaler
I don't know how much experience you have in live vs. online, but over a comparable number of hands the number of suckouts that happen online are magnificent.
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DS3
Legend
Loyaler
I try not to be skeptical, I really do. I amble along in my own way and am content if I meet my modest ambitions. And, as I always underline, I have no financial skin in the game, so to speak. Then you run into another blizzard of nonsense and any good faith evaporates. This week on one site it feels like the RNG is set on joke mode. You used the word magnificent- its apt. The past few days felt like one of the most silly mini-spells I have witnessed with half the players at any given table getting reamed by ludicrous outcomes.
Before I ever manage to settle into Happy Valley, I am back in 'you have got to be kidding' mode.
4kingwildo
Rock Star
Silver Level
all poker sites RNG are different, some of them look like 888coolerhell, but all of them create mathematically clear lines. if you try to play good, they pay you anyway. but distance...) donks doesn't make the stupid decision, rng do that magic multi pots 4them ) we come in peace, to generate rake )))
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eagleaces
Rock Star
Silver Level
lol
IDK what live games you playing but where i play there are always four tables going non stop. I started live and played many years and online now for a couple years and i see no difference in play or run outs. I do notice the car effect which is ppl online take more risks cause they in they home but players at the casinos have to look at eachother so they dont fling all in all the time.
IDK what live games you playing but where i play there are always four tables going non stop. I started live and played many years and online now for a couple years and i see no difference in play or run outs. I do notice the car effect which is ppl online take more risks cause they in they home but players at the casinos have to look at eachother so they dont fling all in all the time.
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DS3
Legend
Loyaler
And just as a follow up to my own post. I just suffered a 24 hour internet cut off then went back to play on the site above.
Double up and am cruising along with two big stacks at my table. In the BB flop trips but lose half my stack as one of the big stacks flopped the full house. I then go out a few hands later after making a full house to other big stack who made quads on the river. Done and dusted. On their own. no biggie, something to laugh at. When it appears the algorithm has been dealing such hands all week, not so funny.
As I said I do not want to be perma-skeptical, but...
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Hsac
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Live vrs. Online
I spent a good many years playing live games as an occupation, both before and after the inception of the internet, and can say without doubt the craziness has plagued me for months at a time while playing almost on a daily basis. I have friends who had been plagued for years regarding continual bad beats, or the craziness of the cards. But, during one of my longest bad beat spells, I did win the large end of two bad beat jackpots within a couple of weeks of each other.
It happens whether live or online to even the best of players, sometimes for months or even years at a time, and not just weeks.
Merry Christmas and good luck everybody.
I spent a good many years playing live games as an occupation, both before and after the inception of the internet, and can say without doubt the craziness has plagued me for months at a time while playing almost on a daily basis. I have friends who had been plagued for years regarding continual bad beats, or the craziness of the cards. But, during one of my longest bad beat spells, I did win the large end of two bad beat jackpots within a couple of weeks of each other.
It happens whether live or online to even the best of players, sometimes for months or even years at a time, and not just weeks.
Merry Christmas and good luck everybody.
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BoonDockPoker
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Ok I am tired of this. Yes it happens more often. It is not a figment of your imagination But Just at one table you are playing a min of 1.5 times the hands than you through in the ability to play more tables say 2 now you are playing 3x's the hands ok so 4 tabling (like most of us do) you are now seeing 6 times as many hands an hour at least.
So Playing an equal amount of hours you get them same number of hands in 3 years times online as 18 years Live. Of course you are going to see more things, take more bad beats, give more bad beats, see all sort of strange shit that happens once in a blue moon live more online.
These room have ZERO to gain by so called Rigging games. I think it was Ultimate bet back in the day had something like someone getting access to a super user account and where are they now. There are to many options for players and they know it.
But yet it is a never ending thing that online is rigged.
All that said I still do prefer playing live and would choose it over Online any day of the week. But its not because I think it is rigged or anything like that. Its I enjoy playing live better and that is it.
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romamirr
Rock Star
Silver Level
Everything is very simple - you play a lot more hands online than offline. Don't memorize bad hands, especially hard bad beats. You need to control your brain. There are a lot of bad players online, they will close you from below anyway. Tilt can quickly become a friend. Good luck and great luck!
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karl coakley
Visionary
Silver Level
I did wonder about online vs live for a while. Over the years I figured out my numbers are about the same. I actually had to use a spreadsheet to do the comparison because it got so complex.
I did the comparison in 6 month blocks then totals for the year, then at any time for a grand total Over 6 years.
The main problem was what people are posting. It's not the percentage of quads live vs online (there were a ton more online) it was that the percentage of hands online was 100s of times larger than live (not hundreds larger, hundreds x larger).
When you look at the percentage of hands made vs the percentage played it was what i could consider variance. Flushes, full house, quads, etc. Seems about the same.
One 6 month period quads were a few higher live, some periods online was higher.
In the end, i found i chase too many Flushes and that you will see more memorable hands online because you simply play a huge amount more hands per hour.
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BoonDockPoker
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Exactly For example In last Hour alone I got AA 4 times (Granted 4 tables) but you do not see that live... Its all just a Numbers game.
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samuri
Visionary
Platinum Level
Driving me crazy
Talk about bad beats:
Limped I big blind 96 flop came 976.
Went all in got called by j3 not suited. Next cards 33. Flipping idiots.
Next hand JQ CARDS ON FLOP 9JQ went all in got called 10 3 next cards 89.
10 times like this the whole day.
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Talk about bad beats:
Limped I big blind 96 flop came 976.
Went all in got called by j3 not suited. Next cards 33. Flipping idiots.
Next hand JQ CARDS ON FLOP 9JQ went all in got called 10 3 next cards 89.
10 times like this the whole day.
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