Who thinks that it is fair to make players be vaccinated before playing in the wsop?

[Pokerpoet2]

I personally think it's B.S. I get the mask thing but if one could prove they are COVID free with a rapid test why should they have to conform and put something in their body that they are against? If this is the case that you have to have a vaccine to play the wsop sadly I will never play a wsop event.

I like many have had both doses of the Vaccine Astra Zenica, and have had no side effects, I am now going for a booster when I am invited, It is my personal choice and I still wear a mask when I go shopping, not to be safe, because I already feel safer now after having the vaccine than I did before the vaccines came out, but I feel I must try to do everything possible to safeguard people I come into contact with.
There have been thousands perhaps even millions of people tested and found to have Covid 19 and show no symptoms of the virus, and I could be one of them, Who Knows? I certainly don't.
As for mandatory vaccination's I don't agree with them, on principle, because everyone has a right to refuse them, it is their body and they have the right to say what they put into them, and that I truly respect. but unfortunately if the Government say's that it is mandatory that you must have the vaccine, then it is time we voted against the powers that are making these rules, and get them out of office.
Already in the U.K. we are losing many Care workers, Doctors and Nurses that do not agree with the Vaccine and are willing to give up their jobs, because of their beliefs, and it will not stop there, Fire Fighters, Policemen, and front line workers in many jobs will all go the same route.
Vaccines might be the answer, but unfortunately we really don't know, Making it mandatory is not the answer, I for one have abused my body over the years with smoking, drinking, eating too many fatty fast foods etc,etc, the list is endless, so I really do not care what happens to it now, but if I have saved the life of one person, by taking the vaccine and have avoided passing this terrible Virus on to someone else, then I can rest Happy.

When the fun Stops, STOP!

 

[Luvepoker]

I love the arguments i have heard here and outside of cardschat that its unfair as its our right to not have to vaccinate. What I rarely hear is about the rights of the people who would rather have people who are vaccinated. I absolutely believe you have the right to have the vaccine or not. If you decide not to that's OK but there may be restrictions you dont like. Some will say we can bring test. Great when were they done and can we prove its yours. How about the cost? How would people who were not vaccinated but took a test at the RIO so they could play but it would cost the player an extra say $20.00 per day? I'm sure it would not go over well. Its sad they had to make this decision but considering whats going on in the wold, i think they made the best option possible. Its better than not having the wsop again this year.

 

[Luvepoker]

Not the way it works, you have no god given right to play in the WSOP, you want to play you agree to abide by their rules.

OMG i hate hearing its my god given rights when it comes to these issues. My daughter and I had to quarantine and be tested a few weeks back when some one went into a DR office and told the nurse off and it was her god given rights to not mask up when she was told she needed to mask up her and her daughter. They were escorted out of the office a little while later by the police. Sadly the lady put her sick and coughing unmasked and tested positive for Covid child right next to our chairs while the exchange went on. We were masked but advised by our DR to quarantine and be tested at our cost of course. We ended up OK but what about my God given....................... oh never mind

 

[cheeeer]

Who thinks it is fair to make only Ladies event or to get a mask? I think they could organize tourny/tables for vaccinated and tourny for those who are not. And then final between winners: vaccinated in chemical protection suit and the other without mask and any protection thing. Um yeah, chemical protection suit or even mask will hide possible tells so I'm not sure how much it is fair..

 

[Kenzie 96]

OMG i hate hearing its my god given rights when it comes to these issues. My daughter and I had to quarantine and be tested a few weeks back when some one went into a DR office and told the nurse off and it was her god given rights to not mask up when she was told she needed to mask up her and her daughter. They were escorted out of the office a little while later by the police. Sadly the lady put her sick and coughing unmasked and tested positive for Covid child right next to our chairs while the exchange went on. We were masked but advised by our DR to quarantine and be tested at our cost of course. We ended up OK but what about my God given....................... oh never mind

You are correct, I should have said you are not entitled to participate in the WSOP. It is a private enterprise & can set their own rules, if you want to participate comply with their rules.

 

[mushthebush]

What is fair in this world? I'm struggling to find answers and I ask this myself everyday in the hope that I will find one positive answer. We just treat each other with so much disrespect and selfishness everyday. If Covid wasn't made in a lab and released in order to mask the financial crash that is and will continue to happen, and it is in fact a virus that appeared with evolution, I'm not surprised why earth would create its antibodies to eradicate its cancer, which unfortunately is us, humans. We take more than we have or will ever give back out of free will. Unless the minority (at this time) overturns tha majority.

Fair or not, wsop is organised and sponsored by private companies which make their own rules and they have every right to do so as organisers. Participating in an event such as wsop is not a human right but a choice. If you want to play the game, you have to follow the rules. I believe they are trying to keep all the participants safe, and I'm not referring to vaccinated people, but the unvaccinated who would be in danger if someone vaccinated brought Covid in. They probably don't want to have any deaths tied to them because unvaccinated people are at a higher risk of death if they contract Covid.

 

[Pokerstudy]

Everywhere, everything has their own rules, if you do not like them, go find somewhere where the rules make sense to you and go enjoy yourself and your time elsewhere.

It took me many years to realize this, but as my pops says "read the rules, what do the rules say?" (talking about the old days of getting screwed by a bank).

When I explained he said, ...they all have their own rules, if you don't like their rules, bank elsewhere. Read the rules.

Rules are in place for a reason, and in this case I agree with the rules 100%.

 

[smallfrie]

I don't think anyone should have to be vaccinated to participate in WSOP events. I don't think anyone should have to provide anyone (A private business or government agency) their vaccination status. If you want to be vaccinated...GREAT, if you don't, that should be your choice. I have received both Pfizer doses and a Pfizer booster and I have no problem saying that, but getting the vaccine and booster and disclosing my vaccination status is my choice.

 

[LFC_yllnwa]

Listen ding dong no one is being forced. They are merely setting up a requirement to play in their event. No one is forced to play but if they do want to then they have to get the shot. About your I read in the news did you also hear about Nicki Minaj's cousins friend who after the shot his balls exploded and killed 10 people at his wedding. Just being a little silly there but do some real research, talk to your doctor and listen to some reliable news sources. Your story maybe true however 1 unethical doctor should not reflect the thousands of doctors and health workers who are administrating a valid and needed covid vaccine.

What does, it's mean, this appeal to me? in to my address??? Of course, this is not direct coercion, but when I was talking about coercion, I was thinking about people, who are forced to get an injection at work and I personally know these people, that's what I was talking about. (perhaps not on the author's topic)

Nicki Minaj why are you writing about her now??? no need to add incomprehensible and inappropriate examples ... I'm not your friend from your yard, that you tell me about stupidity! Behave yourself!!! We, communicate and express our opinions on various topics!

There are several doctors in my family, there are friends in different cities, who work in medicine, so there are enough reliable sources. News? hahaha, great joke! =) )))

I will never say bad words about doctors, this is a very difficult and responsible job and there are unique, brilliant people from this field. My story is not about bad doctors, but about whether it is really a vaccine at all and whether it helps!

I lived in the same house with a human whose tests officially found the virus (then the virus left him), but I was not sick! None of us put the vaccine, now I take tests almost every day (I am a professional athlete) and I did not put the vaccine! Therefore, vaccination it's very, very difficult and it is a personal matter for every person!!

And for information, when the news broadcasts information about the numbers of cases and deaths, looks, read how many people get sick every year and die from the flu!

 

[cardzilla1991]

I value everybody's opinion even if it's different than my own please don't use names or be aggressive it's forcing In order to play in their games but with a name like world series of poker and the fact that it's the major poker series makes it a huge issue. And since when does someone else taking a vaccine effect yourself or matter to yourself ??? When the other people didn't get a flu shot did you react this way?????

 

[GRIN281289]

I believe that this is a person's choice, and no one has the right to decide for him. I am not against vaccines, but you cannot be forced to point and separate people, perhaps even worse options

 

[PLAYFUL1]

There should be a rule 2 have to be vaccinated to play in the WSOP to protect each player and especially the ones already vaccinated

 

[1984]

Not a coincidence that they don't teach anything about law, gov system, money system in schools.... so like here, everybody is loudly spreading the nonsense bullsh*t.

It is against the international law, it violates the Nuremberg code - make you remember they executed the similar medical experiment maker (the Mengele gang) before they made these laws, that it never happened again. But in this brainwashed neo commie/fascist fear mongering crap, millions can't get it whats going on...

And my number 1 question: Can anyone please let me know who, where and when did isolate the deadly virus??? (In Alberta, canada they dropped all the psycho lockdown, mandatory crap within days, when in a trial they asked the proof of that, and the burochrats recognized nobody have it in the amazing gov, science maffia...)

Even by common sense, you are protected by the jab, i am okay with my immune system - until recently all the same nowadays loud, get jabbed scientist said, the natural immunity million times better than any vax...., but that was the yesterday's trust the science, the today one is different, opposite....)

This sell the fear thing works great, droids can't even think logically, not even when the hole narrative falling apart.... and want to rule the critical thinkers, open minded ones to be the same ignorant coward, full with fear, obeying droids like them, as they hate by all means, simply because they are not the same like them, can't rule and enslave them to their low life level.....

disgusting.....

Oh and the zombies jumping for this crap like the manna from God, meantime just in experimental phase, nobody knows any long term effects, except all the trial animals died within 2 years.... (That's on the pfizer homepage, anybody can check it.) Don't mention the adverse reactions, jab deaths, what they dont allow in msm. long time would had to stop this crap, but of course, then new nuremberg trials should become, and the psychos would hang once again for their nowadays crimes against humanity.
Meantime none of the jab maker companies mandate the jab in their companies, nor any government in their parliament..... they know it!!


F*ck the wsop if they apply unlawful nazi/commie/fascist/tech/gov/pharma medical tyranny discrimination!!!!!!!!!!

 

[whiskers77]

F*ck the wsop if they apply unlawful nazi/commie/fascist/tech/gov/pharma medical tyranny discrimination!!!!!!!!!!

Haha, so funny, if we think about that around 10% in GER do not want to become vaccinated and that around 10% are Afd electors, who are belonging to the right wing and we may call them mainly neo-nazis.
I hope, you get what I mean...

I just think, it is good that the WSOP is implementing some rules about this to protect it's visitors. Here the restaurants, clubs and so on do the same. You should have some evidence, that you are vaccinated, you had Covid-19 already or you are tested negatively, but also some just accept the only first two ones, when there is no proof, that the person has real issues about becoming vaccinated. But then this person can be tested. And I think, this is okay and just fair to the people who try to protect each other and their families and so on.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Not a coincidence that they don't teach anything about law, gov system, money system in schools.... so like here, everybody is loudly spreading the nonsense bullsh*t.

It is against the international law, it violates the Nuremberg code - make you remember they executed the similar medical experiment maker (the Mengele gang) before they made these laws, that it never happened again. But in this brainwashed neo commie/fascist fear mongering crap, millions can't get it whats going on...

And my number 1 question: Can anyone please let me know who, where and when did isolate the deadly virus??? (In Alberta, Canada they dropped all the psycho lockdown, mandatory crap within days, when in a trial they asked the proof of that, and the burochrats recognized nobody have it in the amazing gov, science maffia...)

Even by common sense, you are protected by the jab, i am okay with my immune system - until recently all the same nowadays loud, get jabbed scientist said, the natural immunity million times better than any vax...., but that was the yesterday's trust the science, the today one is different, opposite....)

This sell the fear thing works great, droids can't even think logically, not even when the hole narrative falling apart.... and want to rule the critical thinkers, open minded ones to be the same ignorant coward, full with fear, obeying droids like them, as they hate by all means, simply because they are not the same like them, can't rule and enslave them to their low life level.....

disgusting.....

Oh and the zombies jumping for this crap like the manna from God, meantime just in experimental phase, nobody knows any long term effects, except all the trial animals died within 2 years.... (That's on the pfizer homepage, anybody can check it.) Don't mention the adverse reactions, jab deaths, what they dont allow in msm. long time would had to stop this crap, but of course, then new nuremberg trials should become, and the psychos would hang once again for their nowadays crimes against humanity.
Meantime none of the jab maker companies mandate the jab in their companies, nor any government in their parliament..... they know it!!


F*ck the wsop if they apply unlawful nazi/commie/fascist/tech/gov/pharma medical tyranny discrimination!!!!!!!!!!

OK... but have you taken your meds. yet today???

 

[dallam]

As a non-vaccinated person I'm writing my lines here.

I understand the fear around covid, that worldwide something spread and may threatening our lives. But I can see people having cancer, vein problems, many other illnesses, not mentioning that so many car-accidents, hunger, other infections are happening. So many ways to die, even someone can shot you in the street or stone-showers can be happening. If I would chasing the paths of death, it would find me, but it will find me either way cause that's the circle of life.

One thing it always come up to my mind, is that non-vaccinated people respect vaccinated ones, understand their decisions and accept the fact that they took 3 shots and may still wear masks etc.
While I see and hear many vaccinated people like here who don't even wanna be with the same room with unvaccinated people. Even these vaccinated people are probably safe as they did everything what many doctors and experts of this field said.

So as I think there are many ways to protect yourself, the worst you can do is that trust in somewhat & telling everyone to take your vaccines, but still wearing mask and still bully people because they have their own reasons why they decided different. So please, don't do this with each other, especially in a forum like this it's looking really forced in a way, and whisper that some people may have valuable lives then others which is probably not true.

 

[roger perkins]

What does, it's mean, this appeal to me? in to my address??? Of course, this is not direct coercion, but when I was talking about coercion, I was thinking about people, who are forced to get an injection at work and I personally know these people, that's what I was talking about. (perhaps not on the author's topic)

Nicki Minaj why are you writing about her now??? no need to add incomprehensible and inappropriate examples ... I'm not your friend from your yard, that you tell me about stupidity! Behave yourself!!! We, communicate and express our opinions on various topics!

There are several doctors in my family, there are friends in different cities, who work in medicine, so there are enough reliable sources. News? hahaha, great joke! =) )))

I will never say bad words about doctors, this is a very difficult and responsible job and there are unique, brilliant people from this field. My story is not about bad doctors, but about whether it is really a vaccine at all and whether it helps!

I lived in the same house with a human whose tests officially found the virus (then the virus left him), but I was not sick! None of us put the vaccine, now I take tests almost every day (I am a professional athlete) and I did not put the vaccine! Therefore, vaccination it's very, very difficult and it is a personal matter for every person!!

And for information, when the news broadcasts information about the numbers of cases and deaths, looks, read how many people get sick every year and die from the flu!

CDC numbers for flu deaths in the US for last 10 years
2010 37000
2011 12000
2012 43000
2013 38000
2014 51000
2015 23000
2016 38000
2017 61000
2018 34000
2019 22000
so far in less than 2yrs Covid has killed over 700000 in the united states
so how do those numbers compare?
Why did I bring up Nicki M because that was an example of a "trusted news source" Foxnews spreading nonsense about Covid just like the news source you said talked about the water shots.
So of all these doctors/medical workers you say are friends and family how many say the vaccine is not real?

 

[SPANKYSN]

Those not wanting to get the vaccine against Covid have the absolute right not to get it...I get that. At the same time I understand that any private enterprise has the ability to set their own rules, usually for the common good of the majority...no shirt, no shoes, no service! Nobody complains about that. Seatbelts mandated to protect you from yourself when driving...there were plenty of complaints when those laws were first introduced; now, nobody protests, they just wear them. Other vaccines that are necessary for kids to attend public schools; few complain about those. Why this became a partisan political issue is beyond me. How many more should die because some of the population believes the anti-vax hype? Remember the quote in the second Star Trek movie..."the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." Thank you Mr. Spock.

 

[cardzilla1991]

Are you kidding/trolling? You did research into a variant of a 20 year old vaccine and concluded that you don't "believe" in it? I would love, just fcuking love to see the links to the papers you read 'researching'. It is sad that people nowadays call watching tv, reading FB/Twitter researching. It's sh1t like that is the reason this country is having such a hard time with covid resurging and more people dying than last year.

No actual research. Reading different things including the patent number on the first vaccine backed by bill gates is 060606 aka 666. They have already created a RFID microchip smaller than A grain of rice that was implemented years ago and the vaccine supposedly contains one of those chips so they can tell who has gotten the vaccine. And 20 years??? The coronavirus vaccine just came out recently within the last 2 years. You can believe what you are told or you can look into it yourself.

 

[cardzilla1991]

I understand you have the right to not be vaccinated.
I understand you have the right to smoke at home.
Not sure you understand you dont have any right to smoke inside an airplane.
I understand you do not understand that this is not an individual matter.

Sorry if I sounded unpolite, english is not my native language.
Just some food for thought.

When I'm history did it bother you if someone else didn't get their flu shot? Especially if you got yours? How does this effect you especially when I can prove with a rapid test that I am COVID free???
I don't think you quite see it correctly. They want you to believe that you should and are obligated to take the vaccine. Beginning of the mark of the beast. Soon you will not be able to buy sell or trade without the vaccine which contains a microchip.

 

[cardzilla1991]

Others have made the case for the WSOP position adequately and as one succinct post said, why don't you try lighting a cigarette in the Amazon Room and see how long you last before being turfed out.

I could care less how an individual behaves in his or her own house or whether they choose to be vaccinated or not. However I do care when an individual feels entitled to potentially threaten the health and lives of others by mingling in public without being vaccinated.

And, as the matter has been touched upon we are all aware those who have endured Covid 19 can still get re-infected and potentially pass the virus to others.

Someone's personal freedom does not entitle them to put others in jeopardy.

And for the umpteenth time I can guarantee everyone on the no-vaxx bandwagon is already vaccinated...for polio, smallpox, Hepatitus A and B, Diphtheria, Influenza etc. etc. which discredits the stance as being little more than what it is, political.

What bandwagon ? The bandwagon is in support of the satanic vaccine. You wanna know the first vaccine patent number ? 060606 aka 666. There is a microchip smaller than a grain of rice that can be detected with RFID to see if you have the vaccine. Soon enough you won't be able to buy sell or trade. You already cannot travel without the vaccine which the main point of all of this is why if I can prove to be COVID free would I still be required to take the vaccine and put the virus in my body?

 

[cardzilla1991]

I'm not a troll or sheep I certainly won't buy the bull that the media tries to tell us. Including YOU NEED TO GET YOUR VACCINE NOW! OR YOU WILL DIE. everyone I know that has gotten the vaccine had gotten sick and I mean really sick worse than just getting COVID. I have researched enough to know it's no good. The first COVID vaccine which was backed by Bill Gates had patent number 060606 and many discussions about them putting an RFID microchip smaller than a grain of rice in the vaccine which they will be able to test for. Look into the creation of the microchip. The best place to implement the microchip is in the meat of the right hand or in the forehead. Exactly the place where the Bible tells us the mark of the beast will be placed.

 

[cardzilla1991]

Are you kidding/trolling? You did research into a variant of a 20 year old vaccine and concluded that you don't "believe" in it? I would love, just fcuking love to see the links to the papers you read 'researching'. It is sad that people nowadays call watching tv, reading FB/Twitter researching. It's sh1t like that is the reason this country is having such a hard time with covid resurging and more people dying than last year.

And you clearly are emotionally charged with this subject so you already are clouding your mindset. You have to look into these matters with an open mind. From the sound of your response and your hostility you have your mind made up. You will not see things for what they truly are this way. You can continue with your regularly scheduled PROGRAM. because you have been programmed to believe certain things and anyone or anything that doesn't fit your programming you shut down immediately. I will pray for you and best of luck to you in life and on the felt.

 

[cardzilla1991]

Others have made the case for the WSOP position adequately and as one succinct post said, why don't you try lighting a cigarette in the Amazon Room and see how long you last before being turfed out.

I could care less how an individual behaves in his or her own house or whether they choose to be vaccinated or not. However I do care when an individual feels entitled to potentially threaten the health and lives of others by mingling in public without being vaccinated.

And, as the matter has been touched upon we are all aware those who have endured Covid 19 can still get re-infected and potentially pass the virus to others.

Someone's personal freedom does not entitle them to put others in jeopardy.

And for the umpteenth time I can guarantee everyone on the no-vaxx bandwagon is already vaccinated...for polio, smallpox, Hepatitus A and B, Diphtheria, Influenza etc. etc. which discredits the stance as being little more than what it is, political.

If someone proves with a test that they don't have the virus how is that effecting you? Did me not getting my flu or tetanus shot effect you or anyone around me??? There's an agenda they are trying to implement and a major part of it is population control

 

[cardzilla1991]

Personally, I do not see anything wrong with vaccination. If vaccination prevents the spread of the disease, then I believe that it should be made mandatory.

If this was the case and simple and straight forward then I would be gung-ho about the vaccine. I had COVID and i am COVID free now. I don't think it makes sense to reinfect myself with the virus because they tell me I should. Patent number 060606 aka (666) on first vaccine backed by bill gates. Possibly contains the RFID microchip that can be detected. You already cannot travel without it soon enough they will say you can't buy sell or trade without it.