Can you learn anything from zynga poker?

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New poker term, "too all inny" I got put in my place tonight, even if it is on the lame ass zynga poker. I grew impatient, thought I could become a millionaire in zynga chips overnight. When I should of simply bet the pot, i went all in on the slightest good hand. I think it was, I had 2, 5, and the cards out went 2,3,4,6. plus some obscure card.

I was the chip leader at 950k in zynga chips, so I go all in cuz I had the str8. The person with the 2nd most chips had 5,7. (around 450k) Almost an entire days worth of poker playing gone in a single hand.

I was a little high on my better gameplay throughout the round and immediately got knocked down to a distant second and instantly left the server.

Even if zynga is supbar to real online poker players, I still think there are lessons to be learned.

However I am making a gradual comeback with more gameplay from the harsh lesson i learned. Im back up to around 4 million chips, which should increase with time and patience.
 
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my bad i thought this was a legit thread
 
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New poker term, "too all inny" I got put in my place tonight, even if it is on the lame ass zynga poker. I grew impatient, thought I could become a millionaire in zynga chips overnight. When I should of simply bet the pot, i went all in on the slightest good hand. I think it was, I had 2, 5, and the cards out went 2,3,4,6. plus some obscure card.

I was the chip leader at 950k in zynga chips, so I go all in cuz I had the str8. The person with the 2nd most chips had 5,7. (around 450k) Almost an entire days worth of poker playing gone in a single hand.

I was a little high on my better gameplay throughout the round and immediately got knocked down to a distant second and instantly left the server.

Even if zynga is supbar to real online poker players, I still think there are lessons to be learned.

However I am making a gradual comeback with more gameplay from the harsh lesson i learned. Im back up to around 4 million chips, which should increase with time and patience.



hahaha there is NO lesson to be learned. You are completely wasting your time, all playing on that site is going to do is give you bad habits and pointless experience. The day you finally wake up and transition to real money ring games you are going to realize you're playing a completely different game and will have to re-learn everything.

You seem to be stubborn and have some sort of fetish for Zynga, but I'll tell you again....play freerolls. In freerolls people are competing for something so they aren't going to just play like complete morons. ORR at least play for fake money on pokerstars people on there take the game a LITTLE more seriously.

A monkey could make profit on Zynga, you have nothing to be proud of and your chips in no way represent your skill level on that site. There are people that barely know the rules of hold'em and have billions on there. It means nothing.

If you are just going to continue playing on Zynga with dreams of getting rich selling your chips (most likely getting scammed) then you have no business on this site. This site is primarily to discuss poker strategy.....strategy that you can't use successfully against people that aren't playing the game seriously.

Honestly that site degrades true poker. They don't have any legit structured tournaments, they sell FAKE chips...they don't care about the game of poker, all they care about is keeping people on there however they can so they can continue making billions(real money) with their advertisements.

Idk about you but I would rather make money while supporting a real poker site than waste time making fake money supporting one of the richest companies in the world.
 
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I dont give a shit, when the play money has real monetary at the higher levels you are essentially playing for real money. I dont want to go through some shady ass money grams to pull money from my poker account.

If that US didnt pass that stupid law, ok you might have some argument here. But since the law, online poker has all but been banned. I aint gonna jump through hoops to play some stupid game.

If the players are bad, as you seem to keep saying, and the play money has monetary value in high amounts, then yes, if you can sell them, there is money to be made.

You're probably right Im not good as a phil ivey, but they got 80m/1 billion rooms. *Site removed* sells 100m in chips for $60, so if I win a billion zynga chips on the most popular poker website in the world, thats $600 worth of chips I have to transfer to other FB poker accounts.

Id rather go through paypal and facebook then some shady international money grams. I dont give a shit, I aint putting my money through shady operations and I think at the higher levels, where the chips are actually worth good amounts of dollars, there still is things to be learned.

I can't beleive this, the largest poker website in the world, is still hated on by the poker community. My bad if introducing new players to poker is a bad thing, I always thought more fish playing poker was agood thing, but apparently Im wrong by these poker elitist standards.
 
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I dont give a shit, when the play money has real monetary at the higher levels you are essentially playing for real money. I dont want to go through some shady ass money grams to pull money from my poker account.

If that US didnt pass that stupid law, ok you might have some argument here. But since the law, online poker has all but been banned. I aint gonna jump through hoops to play some stupid game.

If the players are bad, as you seem to keep saying, and the play money has monetary value in high amounts, then yes, if you can sell them, there is money to be made.

You're probably right Im not good as a phil ivey, but they got 80m/1 billion rooms. *Site removed* sells 100m in chips for $60, so if I win a billion zynga chips on the most popular poker website in the world, thats $600 worth of chips I have to transfer to other FB poker accounts.

Id rather go through paypal and facebook then some shady international money grams. I dont give a shit, I aint putting my money through shady operations and I think at the higher levels, where the chips are actually worth good amounts of dollars, there still is things to be learned.

I can't beleive this, the largest poker website in the world, is still hated on by the poker community. My bad if introducing new players to poker is a bad thing, I always thought more fish playing poker was agood thing, but apparently Im wrong by these poker elitist standards.

continue wasting countless hours on zynga, it will not make you a better player nor will you truly make money. Online poker is not banned in the U.S., look around at CC there's plenty of U.S. rooms still open.

don't get pissed at CC when every poster here tells you "zynga is a joke, you will learn nothing" and you continue to deny, disagree etc.

In 6 months, your going to look back at this thread and laugh at yourself, bc this whole thing is completely ridicoulous
 
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I would completely agree with you people that its a waste of time if I didn't find an exchange for the fake chips, for real money. And ive done enough online transactions that getting scammed is of low probability.

Its like telling those people who harvest gold in WoW are wasting their time, well if theres money to be made, people will do it.
 
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But how much can you really make from that vs. time spent earning chips?

Maybe it is not a complete waste of time in terms of making a few quid idk.

BUT it will certainly be a waste of time for learning how to play poker beyond the most very basic level (like the first hour or two you ever play holdem).
 
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Ok, one question, lets suppose I do set up an account at bodog casino. How do I transfer money from either bodog to my bank account, or bodog to my paypal account? The law is where I am really gray since it took out a ton of legitimate and safe ways to get money to and from your account at a poker website. Also I had a recent reading of the justice department busting a bunch of the big name poker websites, which has me concerned. If you can't get money to and from a big poker website without the justice department closing your account than where in the heck do i go? I read that some of these big poker websites are criminal in their handling of financial problems of players.

Main reason Ive always had negative opinions of money grams or western union is because they are notoriously used in Nigerian craigslist scams. I will never forget the day I offered flight simulation lessons (I have an excellent home desktop flight simulation hardware, $1500 worth, for learning how to fly airplanes) and somebody who claimed they were local, but spelled words like people who learned british english, sent me a $5000 check (cheque as they spelled it) in the mail for lessons, even though I was offering them for free. Of course I didn't cash the check and I think I was liable to heavy punishments if I cashed it, but Im pretty sure they wanted me to send some money through western union or money gram, after I cashed it, and before I would be stupid enough to find out it was entirely bogus.

So can I directly link from paypal to bodog and the other way around, or is it more complicated than that?

Question about bankroll management.

Also since the buy ins are with fake chips, I usually gather up a bankroll of 10x the maximum (20x buyin was taking way too long) before I graduate to higher tables. I read on here that you should do 100x, but that seems like you would be stuck playing low stakes tables for months at a time before you could ever graduate to a higher level, and the (fake) money does seem to come in exponentially faster when you graduate to a higher table.

Im up 10x the maximum buy in from where I started to where I am today.

Question about game logs

I don't think Zynga offers a game log that I can have better players go over. The best it does is how many hands played, how many won, and the largest pot Ive won. Since I play at tables with 8/9 people, I just about average one win per 8 hands, I am not sure if that is consistent with an average player, seems I win one hand for how many spots are filled at the table though.

So does a casino like bodog's poker rooms offer this, a game log for better poker players on here to review, and is there some kind of poker software that I can get to also analyze my poker game play better than I can?
 
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Question about bankroll management.

Also since the buy ins are with fake chips, I usually gather up a bankroll of 10x the maximum (20x buyin was taking way too long) before I graduate to higher tables. I read on here that you should do 100x, but that seems like you would be stuck playing low stakes tables for months at a time before you could ever graduate to a higher level, and the (fake) money does seem to come in exponentially faster when you graduate to a higher table.

100X is ridiculous, even super bankroll nits like me don't do that!

For cash games reasonable management would be to move up when you get to 25 buy-ins for the next level and move back down if you drop below 15-20 buy-ins for the level you moved up to.


Im up 10x the maximum buy in from where I started to where I am today.

See how easy it is to do that on the real money cash tables :)

So does a casino like bodog's poker rooms offer this, a game log for better poker players on here to review, and is there some kind of poker software that I can get to also analyze my poker game play better than I can?

Pokertracker 3 or Holdem manager 2. Microstakes versions cost around $45
 
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I played Zynga for a couple weeks, then I closed the App after lost my whole stack in a few minutes, and I didn't care. LOL.
The only slightly positive thing I can say about it is that I got a lot of practice playing heads-up.
 
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Zynga !! real donk poker players
 
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It’s god awful. People are all in everyhand. It’s just pts, no one cares.

Once you start playing for real money, you won’t go back to silly pts.
 
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Dear US government,
Please, please allow regulated online poker in the US.

Sincerely,
Someone who wants to play for real $$ on Zynga poker (or at least with Zynga poker players)
 
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Ok, one question, lets suppose I do set up an account at bodog casino.

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So does a casino like bodog's poker rooms offer this, a game log for better poker players on here to review, and is there some kind of poker software that I can get to also analyze my poker game play better than I can?

Of all available choices US players to play real money bodog offers the worst hand history option, furthermore trackers don't work there atm.

If I were you I'd choose carbon, decent micro MTTs and some traffic on the micro ring tables.

Cardschat offers a weekly freeroll and a buy-in both with 100$ added. Check the calendar for dates.
 
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So you recommend I get hold 'em manager 2, and which poker site that has a good game log that I can have better poker players go over with me? Since you said bodog has a bad game log, I really like having a game history that the better players can help me with.

Also how do you guys move money from your poker accounts to your bank accounts? Any poker sites that accept paypal, and can put money into my paypal account?

I mean if Im gonna play for real money, I want to have all the software necessary and be infused with the online community to help me be a better player.
 
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Pokertracker (PT) or Holdem Manager HEM both have trial versions you can download for free, don't know how long they run atm but long enough (>days) to get an idea and see what suits you better.

You can upgrade to full version from the trial later.

Regarding payouts well since I'm European I simply cash out to my banking account.

btw: The HH on carbon sucks aswell but PT3 and HEM both have better HHs anyway.
 
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Start slower. Don't deposit. Join a site that allows real money play from the US and play freerolls and play money until you're comfortable either depositing or you bink a BR starter in a FR. We have many members here who have never deposited yet have cashed out thousands of dollars. Don't worry about buying tracking software until you need it and have won the $$s to buy it.

Paypal deposits/withdrawals do not work for US players.
 
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Start slower. Don't deposit. Join a site that allows real money play from the US and play freerolls and play money until you're comfortable either depositing or you bink a BR starter in a FR. We have many members here who have never deposited yet have cashed out thousands of dollars. Don't worry about buying tracking software until you need it and have won the $$s to buy it.

^^This aswell.

As said get a tracker as a trial and start playing freerolls, preferably private ones.

Btw I took exactly that track and built a BR through freerolls before depositing, too (like quite a few on CC).
 
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LOL wow kid you are hilarious. You are obviously too thick skulled to learn the game and you know the only people you can beat are Zynga players.

By the way I didn't know depositing via pre-paid visa card and withdrawing via check in the mail is classified as a "shady ass money gram" And some illegitimate website violating TOS, offering to pay you for virtual chips that have no monetary value in the long term doesn't seem shady at all....

And you keep saying "Zynga is the most popular poker site in the world!!" like that's supposed to mean something? It is popular simply because it is on FACEBOOK, what don't you get about that?

Whatever dude, if you want to be one of the thousands of donkeys that play on that site, go ahead. But don't consider yourself a poker player. Beating those games means nothing. You shouldn't even be on a poker forum.
 
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Well if it pisses you off that much, I think Ill stick around quite a bit longer.

Im hardly a "kid" im 26, you condescending asshole. Quit trolling my thread.
 
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There I just went on carbon poker, I go to make an account and it says it is not accepting any accounts from the state I reside in. So looks like zynga is the only option for now.
 
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No. Although if you already know how to play, you can practice adjusting to different styles of play with fake poker. The play money on the real sites is pretty silly too unless you are in a good tourney structure or start using points. And maybe rarely you will get a table of players on Zynga that want to practice. It will make you a worse player. I play fake poker if I'm too tired to play real, and I think it's pretty awful on there.

It is completely legal for you to play on sites like Pokerstars and Fulltilt btw, you just can't play on the real money part. It is illegal for them currently because of money transfer issues, not for the players.
 
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