Pair of KK and an Ace on the flop - How do you play it?

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How to deal with this situation being that I have a pair of KK and an ace comes on the flop; I always analyze against whom I am playing: if my opponent has a good stack or not, and how they have played during the game for me to decide how to play. Whether or not you should call a bet or fold?
 
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In such cases, everything depends on the position and your style of play. Usually, with such strong cards, I will play aggressively.
 
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I usually check then if he bets call... if he bets again usually fold but this is player dependent
 
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If you have KK you were probably the agressor, so you will want to start with a check first. If your opponent checks again on the turn, you can start betting for value. If he bets, take into account his previous action to decide whether to call or fold
 
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It's totally dependent on the opponent(s). Against one caller I'm more likely to c-bet, my opponent has to think there are some aces in my range if I opened pre-flop, but my decision will be based on my read on villain (perhaps he calls with any ace, perhaps he's super tight, etc).
I am less likely to c-bet the more players remain in the hand as a c-bet is less likely to take the pot there and there's more chance of someone having an Ace.
 
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I prefer to information-bet. If you get called, there's a good chance you're beaten. If you get raised, you're most definitely beaten.
 
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play it aggressively,to good to fold
 
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Check all the way through, maybe betting on the river. Don't get too attached to your hand because every hand can be beat.
 
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If I am leading the action I will cbet hoping to win the hand there,and if I’m reraised a big amount I will be forced to fold. Unfortunately the ace kills our hand and our likelihood of winning or being ahead.
 
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well i did raise or 3 bet preflop. so what do i think he may have called with. an Ace would definitely be in the range. so i would c bet flop and decide from there. i feel if he just calls its about a 75% chance he has an Ace or at least hit the flop. i would then proceed cautiously. but if he raises Im going to fold 90% of the time
 
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Depends...

...on position, and opponent playing styles. Since I am usually in an online tourney, I rarely have much of a read on opponents, so it's mostly position.

If I'm UTG, I will always push a decent-sized bet. If I run into resistance, then I become REALLY careful. If I have position, I will rarely call a bet, unless I think opponent is aggressive.

It's a tough spot.
 
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Depends on the opponent. Depends on position. I like to put a feeler bet out and find out where I stand. Feeding my opponent a little morsel instead of one big bite in case they do have an ace and this also allows the outside shot that you happen to get a king for a bargain price. The problem with this style of play is if your opponent senses weakness and takes the hand away from you whether he or she has an ace or not.
 
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Depends on position and preflop play. I'll usually bet out the flop if I'm in position, check/call if I'm not, feel out the next street.
 
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It depends on so many things: type of the game (MTT/cash, freeroll/cash), your position, the way your opponents play etc. If it's freeroll and you're playing just for fun and to gain more experience, try to play such cards aggressively and carefully in different hands to feel the difference.
 
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I look at the actions of the opponent that he did before. and of course the number of opponents in this hand with kings I will certainly try to weed out and stay one on one.
 
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Depends on what kind of rep the other players have that are in the pot. I'd usually check to see what they want to do, if they check bet heavy on the river, if they bet small re-raise, if they bet large - what kind of rep do they have? TAG/LAG? Decide from there.
 
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kk

i dont have i rule about it'
so ..... depence many things like stakes ,position , others players skill ...etc.
some times i bet some times i chek
and if i chek and the other player bet ...some times i call and some times i fold.
no rule. :icon_king:icon_king
 
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How to deal with this situation being that I have a pair of KK and an ace comes on the flop; I always analyze against whom I am playing: if my opponent has a good stack or not, and how they have played during the game for me to decide how to play. Whether or not you should call a bet or fold?


In these types of cases you would want to play it cautiously as well you can take a risk if you have a bigger stack if you feel your opponent is bluffing.
 
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KK BOARD A HIGH

If you have only a strong C bet opponent if you have more than one player involved better check and analyze the odds of your hand and depending on the value of a bet that will be made call and a bad situation when the KK finds an A on the flop mainly without that Sej The HU.

:jd4:mateuspoker
 
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Just as you posted:

it depends on your oponent(s), how many players are in that hand, in what position, what happened during the last couple of hours,...... so many factors, there is no correct play, it all depends.
 
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In holdem the flop is everything, you have every reason to shut down here.
He could be calling you with an Ace or he could be calling you with trips thinking you have the ace. I would just look to check it all the way out.
 
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How to deal with this situation being that I have a pair of KK and an ace comes on the flop; I always analyze against whom I am playing: if my opponent has a good stack or not, and how they have played during the game for me to decide how to play. Whether or not you should call a bet or fold?
With King Kong, I play like this: check-flop, call-turn (if someone bets) / bet-turn (if someone checks), check on the river.
 
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if my opponent has a lot of preflop strength, I will have a tendency to throw my cards but if that is not the case. I can try to pay to see his hand or better to bluff the shot if it does not cost too expensive but what is on it is that I would play my tournaments on this hand.
 
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Yous said it all

There is no such recipy as "how to play..." there are so many different factors that you should consider, but stack size, your position, number of players are the most important in my opinion.
 
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Chek, chek, chek, chek all the way (jingle bells)
 
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