Is it weird good at mtt but sucks at cash games

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As the title says, recently i started to play more MTT and i can say that i am doing ok, but when it comes to cash games i suck. Cash games are more convinient as you can play like an hour and leave and MTT knows to lasts for couple of hours. For more then 6 month i was pushing more cash games than mtt, i realised that, that way i was draining my BR for nothing. Now i am more focused on mtt and i can says that i improved a lot. Did i waste my time with cash games ( waste as a money waste, i got alot experience from the cash games in general)?
 
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Cash Games vs. MTT both require different skills. If you're having more fun playing MTTs, then keep playing and have fun. Just do not try to play them the same. The skills required to be more successful in each are different.

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I think, the potential earnings are higher in MTTs, or at least that has been my personal experience. I think, part of the reason for that is lower effective rake, and also MTTs tend to attract a lot of really bad recreational players. The downside is, you cant just leave an MTT, because something else comes up, or you start to feel tired. So they can be difficult to fit into a life, where you also have other things than poker going on.
 
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There's a good chance that this difference in results comes down (at least in part) to sample size. My guess is that you're not doing as bad as you think in cash :)

But it makes sense to focus on the format you feel the most confident in and enjoy. I like short-stacked play, exploiting risk aversion, and the potential to win a large multiple of the initial buy-in. Many others enjoy very deep-stacked play and the flexibility of cash games which you mention in your post.

So if you're happy in tournaments I wouldn't worry about it -- just keep playing them. If you want to transition to cash, then I would study deep-stacked play; build up a larger sample at micro-stakes; and keep track of your winrate in tracking software.
 
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No it's very common actually. I'm a much better tournament player than cash game player.
 
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I think this maybe very common. I am decently good in MTT tournaments but cash not as well. For 1 the games are different. Most tournaments are shorter stacked where cash is deeper stacked. You may also not be so happy at the moment but your sample size might be to small. I doubt your wasting your time but you need to give it a real chance. I would play what you like.
 
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I think this maybe very common. I am decently good in MTT tournaments but cash not as well. For 1 the games are different. Most tournaments are shorter stacked where cash is deeper stacked. You may also not be so happy at the moment but your sample size might be to small. I doubt your wasting your time but you need to give it a real chance. I would play what you like.
I used for some time PT but stopped, but in genral i belive i played more than 50k hands as i played alot on GG and there you can watch how many hands you played in the 3 months, i played multi table fast forward,zoom so i believe it's more than 50k.
 
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I am a fan of MTT poker myself. It started with the idea that my level of risk (buyin) was smaller and was known. I knew exactly how much I was risking. I have been trying cash games lately and am struggling there as well. I walked away from a game yesterday up 350bb, but that is rare for me in cash. Even though this was my largest cash game win, this is only 3.5x my buyin, and a successful MTT wins far more than this.

MTT requires a broader range of poker skills in order to succeed: short stack, deep stack, medium stack, ICM, risk, aggression, exploiting, and above all patience. Cash really focuses on deep stack and exploitation. This says MTT should be harder. But yet, players that are completely focused on cash have really focused on deep stack spots and exploiting by using their chips. There is a lot of commonality, but there are differences in strategy for sure.

ROI is the only measure that crosses over between the two. Is your ROI higher in cash or MTT? bb/100 is an interesting measure, but does not translate very well to tournaments where blinds are changing so much and our blind to stack ratios are always different.

Good luck and God bless
 
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hi all , I think one of the differences between cash games and mtt is range, and
implied odds is also much greater in cash games, since a player has less fear of getting felted in cash games, this allows a much more speculative range/style , and
indeed I like to play any 2 cards depending on position and bet size, you can expect rivals to do the same, some will even call upto 5x preflop with any 2 if the implied odds/stack size are nice .
this therefore devalues mtt ranges like AK AQ etc , as they're liable to be called by any 2 and if AK miss the flop, the rival will most likely 3bet , some mtt players may feel somehow cheated that AK seems less powerful in cash games,
so what you may try to do is watch rivals closely every hand, whether or not you're in the hand, the get a sense of their ranges and betting patterns/sizes, this should give you an edge (of course they'll be watching you too) , so image + new range + tricks should help you do better , just my 5c .
I'd like to hear more ideas too :)
good poker and let us know how it goes ...
 
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I fit into this category also. Every once in awhile I'll try cash games, same result, I suck. :)
 
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Just plat what you're good in. If you have a long experience in MTT then OK just keep playing them, make your profit. It's a common thing when someone is good in one poker discipline and sucks in another. Well you've figured out cash games are not profitable for you, don't hurt yourself, play the games you're used to. It's fine you gave a shot and tried cash.
Of course it's all up to you. You could say I gonna make it and keep grinding cash if you want to become a pro in cash games.
 
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Over time, people find themselves in a certain discipline of poker.And this is not surprising because not everyone likes the cache game-someone MTT.So the road has led you to the discipline in which you feel comfortable.Life is a game!And you never know what lies ahead.Learn and develop.Good luck to you!
 
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Tournament Poker and Cash games take different approaches. Cash games do not have the rising blinds but does allow (unless its a rebuy portion of a tournament) the ability to reload. That additional pressure in a tournament causes you and your opponents to make decisions that you don't need to worry about in a ring game.
 
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cashgames and mtt are like two different pairs of games. keep at one thing and do it well
 
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