- Apr 15, 2007
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WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO PLAY KK IN EARLY POSITION?
PokerStars Game #10653391459: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2007/06/27 - 20:12:22 (ET)
Table 'Tvashtri II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: tonymaclenna ($4.60 in chips)
Seat 2: blindeye87 ($1.04 in chips)
Seat 3: meangene11 ($3.09 in chips)
Seat 4: WChang ($2.54 in chips)
Seat 6: witstile ($3.18 in chips)
Seat 8: Jones5780 ($0.73 in chips)
Seat 9: hairy45 ($3.08 in chips)
hairy45: posts small blind $0.01
tonymaclenna: posts big blind $0.02
WChang: posts small blind $0.01
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tonymaclenna [Kc Kh]
blindeye87: raises $1.02 to $1.04 and is all-in
tonymaclenna said, ":-D"
tonymaclenna said, "Ill play blindeye"
tonymaclenna: calls $1.02
*** FLOP *** [Jd 3h 2s]
*** TURN *** [Jd 3h 2s] [Ah]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 3h 2s Ah] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tonymaclenna: shows [Kc Kh] (a pair of Kings)
blindeye87: mucks hand
tonymaclenna collected $2 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.10 | Rake $0.10
Board [Jd 3h 2s Ah 7d]
Seat 1: tonymaclenna (big blind) showed [Kc Kh] and won ($2) with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: blindeye87 mucked [8h 8s]
Seat 3: meangene11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: WChang folded before Flop
Seat 6: witstile folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Jones5780 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: hairy45 (small blind) folded before Flop
In freerolls, and low buy-ins, your raise does not get any respected... Yes CCs freerolls are better.I am beginning to wonder if standard rules apply to online poker. The preflop raise does not seem to be respected at all on full tilt in my opinion. I'm not sure too many are really paying enough attention to how players bet...maybe 4 of the 9 at the table. I am hoping cardschat freerolls are different and I have heard that the players for cardschat PLAY POKER and I am looking forward to it. Don't let the name fool you.
I am beginning to wonder if standard rules apply to online poker. The preflop raise does not seem to be respected at all on full tilt in my opinion. I'm not sure too many are really paying enough attention to how players bet...maybe 4 of the 9 at the table. I am hoping cardschat freerolls are different and I have heard that the players for cardschat PLAY POKER and I am looking forward to it. Don't let the name fool you.
Are you sure 4x and 5x the BB is a good choice? From what I understand 3x the BB is a standard raise. I've also heard you're supposed to be consistent with raises no matter the hand so they cannot place you on anything i.e. you raise the same amount with AA as you would AQo. If you do raise 4x and 5x the BB won't it be immediately obvious to the villians immediately place you on KK or AA?
This is only true in freerolls... standard rules apply online as soon as you start playing for any real money (and more so as you move up in limits).
Yes, which is why you don't raise more based on the hand. You raise more based on the position. In late position you would raise to 3xBB. In EP you want to discourage action, and so you charge more for others to see the flop. You want to raise more with both AA and 9-10s.
i know people say otherwise. but i find at the right type of table w/aggressive preflop raisers. i don't mind going for a limp/raise in the right spots. and at the 1/2's i do the limp shove too. i think the lmp/hove gets no respect and "it just has to be a bluff" they call. but if your not 99% sure there will be a raise behind you i would make it 3-4xbb.
At low stakes, we don't
At higher stakes I would suggest not balancing KK, but instead balancing with AA as it isnt dominated postflop by a single ace
In most cases balancing isn't necessary at low stakes but my god are limp raises obvious.
Why risk turning our hand face-up when we could just do the normal thing and raise it.
Plus x% of the time were gunna get a big limped in multiway pot.
At higher stakes were using AA to balance our open limping?
Why are we open limping in the first place?
im confused by this
The first mistake he makes is his 3-bet size. We are deep stacked, he dosen't raise enough to prevent set mining. He offers me about 15:1 on an event which happens 7.5:1
1.10 to call a 2.00 pot is less than 2/1 odds or are you going by implied odds from stack sizes.
also what size of raise does he need to make to get you to fold QQ based on his stats there stu
btw i think this a great example
could he of put you on AQ in that same situation thinking he had you beat in micro stakes it is a huge possibility you see AQ stacking all the time.i dont know about ring but in tourneys. so to him he could be thinking he is ahead.
and yes i see what you are talking about with implied odds per stack size
There is something to be said for minraising in early position in an agressive game. Agressive players read minraises as weak, and they can't help but to come over the top when they smell weakness. Then you can really pop them. It's sweet when they throw down a big raise, and I use almost all my time like I'm really thinking about it, and then push. Then they insta-call with JJ or AK, like their ship just came in.