L
LFC_yllnwa
Legend
Bronze Level
Silence and let the opponent think that his hand wins, let him pay, let him play the game, he, having AA to be well behind him to put first him, you can re-raise on the river, but be careful maybe he has 2 pairs or set ...
antonis32123
Legend
Loyaler
I think the op talks for sng , not mtt . I would raise all in of course almost always , but if two were already all in , like in the example in the pokerschoolonline page and I was the smallest stack , I guess , the suggestion of the page , I would have to fold in a sng and in a mtt (with the great payjumps) , or should I call on both , cause , come on , it's Aces ??
??
C
Comix
Enthusiast
Silver Level
We are talking about bubble play. I think you need to be a bit more cautious, to commit preflop there is risking your tournament life. The percentages are in your favor, but sometimes the better play is to win the tournament, not play the percentages.
B
B1BOMBER
Legend
Bronze Level
jimmy andres
Rock Star
Silver Level
P
ph_il
...
Silver Level
Very well aware that this is bubble play.
With the exception of a satellite MTT bubble or a weird ICM spot at FT, if you can't commit your MTT life with AA on the bubble, then why even play? Whether it's the early stages, mid stages, or bubble, getting your stack in with AA will always be a +EV play.
I'm not sure how you expect to win an MTT if you're folding AA preflop. Can you please elaborate on that?
By your logic, since you don't want to risk your MTT life with AA, that must be true for the post bubble right? I mean, just because the bubble popped doesn't mean you've got smooth sailing to 1st place. What if you get AA again. Do you fold preflop? Getting it does put your MTT life at risk... Still not sure how you expect to win an MTT without getting your stack in w/ really strong hands at key spots.
BTW, stop worrying about bubbling or min-cashing. Min-cashes isn't what builds your BR. Deep runs in MTTs do. You'll never make deep runs or final tables consistently if you fold AA preflop on the bubble because you're afraid of busting out.
P
ph_il
...
Silver Level
So, if you have a 150 BB stack, you jam?I play pocket aces the same way no matter my stack. I go all in. If you limp for just the BB many people may stay and odds are the guy with the 3 9 off will win. If they are going to catch they will have to take a chance to do it.
That's pretty silly.
C
Comix
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Each tournament has stages. Maybe you have been way more successful than I have at this. I have many times been the bubble boy, and things changed when I stopped playing high pocket pairs like they are the nuts....
You are right big deep runs in MTT are the goal....actually for me its a top 3 finish. Sometimes that does or might mean folding pocket AA's
M
matenq
Rock Star
Silver Level
That's all okay. But in about 15% of all cases you lose with AA.
If this happens then you are annoyed in the bubble
T
Tomioto3095
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Depends the size of your stack. If you have a big stack, just raise like any other cards, if you are really small, it's preference for you to shove, and if you have a medium stack, analyse the players that are in front of you.
JohnnyC4ge
Rock Star
Silver Level
In my opinion, you should play AA at the bubble aggressively at any case(maybe not at the wsop main event's bubble according to the situation) especially in micro limits.
Even if I'm 2nd in chips and the 1st goes all-in at this moment, this is such a beautiful spot to make you in perfect position to reach a semi final or a final tablethat I think it can't be wasted (instead of folding this to save micro money...)
Play FTW!
Even if I'm 2nd in chips and the 1st goes all-in at this moment, this is such a beautiful spot to make you in perfect position to reach a semi final or a final tablethat I think it can't be wasted (instead of folding this to save micro money...)
Play FTW!
MTCashman
Legend
Loyaler
You should play for the win instead of playing for a min cash, with a hand like AA and only 4 big blinds you should be happy to go all-in . There is a chance that you will bubble, but you are giving yourself the best odds to get a double up and potentially win the tournament. By folding you are basically giving up the chance to win the tournament in the hopes of min cashing, and even with folding you still have a chance to be the bubbleboy. Take the risk and go for the win, good luck!
. There is a chance that you will bubble, but you are giving yourself the best odds to get a double up and potentially win the tournament. By folding you are basically giving up the chance to win the tournament in the hopes of min cashing, and even with folding you still have a chance to be the bubbleboy. Take the risk and go for the win, good luck!
whiskers77
The art of purring
Loyaler
There is no unambiguous answer to this question. Depends on your position, stack size of your opponents, and their aggressiveness - how often they are inclined to take your push from a short stack.
Aces are a good card, but they do not guarantee you 100% winnings. And the more opponents see the flop and the next streets, the less chance you have to win the hand.
Probably there is a situation where you should throw out even AA, if you are sure that you have enough chips in order to survive the bubble. If you have a short stack, you should carefully evaluate the dynamics of the tournament position on the bubble. After all, even winning and increasing your stack by 3 or 4 BB hardly improves your tournament position.
This does not make you a winner or an at least finalist of the tournament.
While losing will simply deprive you of money.
In all other cases, you must of course play aces - this is the best hand in Hold'em.
Andrew, I just need to mention, I love your thoughtful answers. About poker you really know what to write.
I also think the same. It also depends on the tourney and how healthy your bankroll is. If you need the money, then better fold. If it is freeroll or good affordable game for you, then definitely push.