Andrew Popov
Legend
Bronze Level
There is no unambiguous answer to this question. Depends on your position, stack size of your opponents, and their aggressiveness - how often they are inclined to take your push from a short stack.
Aces are a good card, but they do not guarantee you 100% winnings. And the more opponents see the flop and the next streets, the less chance you have to win the hand.
Probably there is a situation where you should throw out even AA, if you are sure that you have enough chips in order to survive the bubble. If you have a short stack, you should carefully evaluate the dynamics of the tournament position on the bubble. After all, even winning and increasing your stack by 3 or 4 BB hardly improves your tournament position.
This does not make you a winner or an at least finalist of the tournament.
While losing will simply deprive you of money.
In all other cases, you must of course play aces - this is the best hand in Hold'em.
Aces are a good card, but they do not guarantee you 100% winnings. And the more opponents see the flop and the next streets, the less chance you have to win the hand.
Probably there is a situation where you should throw out even AA, if you are sure that you have enough chips in order to survive the bubble. If you have a short stack, you should carefully evaluate the dynamics of the tournament position on the bubble. After all, even winning and increasing your stack by 3 or 4 BB hardly improves your tournament position.
This does not make you a winner or an at least finalist of the tournament.
While losing will simply deprive you of money.
In all other cases, you must of course play aces - this is the best hand in Hold'em.
imnoobpoker
Rock Star
Silver Level
There is no unambiguous answer to this question. Depends on your position, stack size of your opponents, and their aggressiveness - how often they are inclined to take your push from a short stack.
Aces are a good card, but they do not guarantee you 100% winnings. And the more opponents see the flop and the next streets, the less chance you have to win the hand.
Probably there is a situation where you should throw out even AA, if you are sure that you have enough chips in order to survive the bubble. If you have a short stack, you should carefully evaluate the dynamics of the tournament position on the bubble. After all, even winning and increasing your stack by 3 or 4 BB hardly improves your tournament position.
This does not make you a winner or an at least finalist of the tournament.
While losing will simply deprive you of money.
In all other cases, you must of course play aces - this is the best hand in Hold'em.
Wow nice explanation! Thank you, I can definitely learn something from this
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ph_il
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Silver Level
If it's not a satellite MTT bubble, there is no reason to fold AA preflop. None.Probably there is a situation where you should throw out even AA, if you are sure that you have enough chips in order to survive the bubble. If you have a short stack, you should carefully evaluate the dynamics of the tournament position on the bubble. After all, even winning and increasing your stack by 3 or 4 BB hardly improves your tournament position.
While losing will simply deprive you of money.
In all other cases, you must of course play aces - this is the best hand in Hold'em.
You should play to win the MTT, not min cash. Winning will always have more value than just cashing.
Increasing a short stack by 3-4 BBs can be significant. If you add 4 BBs to a 10 BB stack, that's a 40% increase.
Finally, losing doesn't deprive you of money. Making -EV choices do.
Andrew Popov
Legend
Bronze Level
From the first post, I realized that we are talking about the micro stack, i.e. Options to put 4 BB, and then see the flop, close and stay in the game - no. I understand microstack - like <5BB in total. There is no room for maneuver... You either play, or you do not. I apologize if my English is not perfect.
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CallmeFloppy
Legend
Bronze Level
I think Andrew Popov nailed it. If you know you can survive to make the money, I would fold. Being such a short stack, you will not likely make enough to make a strong push toward winning, especially if its a large field. If you are in danger of missing the cut, I would take my chances with the aces as opposed to hoping for another's misfortune.
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619Leafs
Legend
Bronze Level
My recommendation is when you get AA with a micro stack on the bubble, you should still go all-in and the reason I say that is because its the best hand in poker and at some point you have to take chances to win poker.
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PKRNRS
Visionary
Silver Level
I'm shoving this hand every time. There is no other better hand. It's the top dog and should be shoved on the bubble. You're only brined called by a lesser hand. Sure there will be times you take a beat but I assure you it won't be often. The hardest issue with AA on bubble play is getting players to bite.
kucu2014
Legend
Silver Level
Perfectly agree to one.There is no unambiguous answer to this question. Depends on your position, stack size of your opponents, and their aggressiveness - how often they are inclined to take your push from a short stack.
Aces are a good card, but they do not guarantee you 100% winnings. And the more opponents see the flop and the next streets, the less chance you have to win the hand.
Probably there is a situation where you should throw out even AA, if you are sure that you have enough chips in order to survive the bubble. If you have a short stack, you should carefully evaluate the dynamics of the tournament position on the bubble. After all, even winning and increasing your stack by 3 or 4 BB hardly improves your tournament position.
This does not make you a winner or an at least finalist of the tournament.
While losing will simply deprive you of money.
In all other cases, you must of course play aces - this is the best hand in Hold'em.
So much only complement the important positions
cheapseats76
Rock Star
Silver Level
AA on the bubble for me is an instant all in if I am SS. You can't rely on other players to get you ITM.
If I have a medium stack I think I am probably also going all in as a raise will decrease my stack to a size that makes my next play an all in so why not cut the middle man and make the play with the best starting hand in poker. Your stack is now big enough to hurt almost every one at the table except maybe the CL or top 5.
If I have a healthy stack I am min raising or 3x raising depending on position, stack size and limit level. Good luck on the felts!
If I have a medium stack I think I am probably also going all in as a raise will decrease my stack to a size that makes my next play an all in so why not cut the middle man and make the play with the best starting hand in poker. Your stack is now big enough to hurt almost every one at the table except maybe the CL or top 5.
If I have a healthy stack I am min raising or 3x raising depending on position, stack size and limit level. Good luck on the felts!
chisel
Rock Star
Silver Level
There is no unambiguous answer to this question. Depends on your position, stack size of your opponents, and their aggressiveness - how often they are inclined to take your push from a short stack.
Aces are a good card, but they do not guarantee you 100% winnings. And the more opponents see the flop and the next streets, the less chance you have to win the hand.
Probably there is a situation where you should throw out even AA, if you are sure that you have enough chips in order to survive the bubble. If you have a short stack, you should carefully evaluate the dynamics of the tournament position on the bubble. After all, even winning and increasing your stack by 3 or 4 BB hardly improves your tournament position.
This does not make you a winner or an at least finalist of the tournament.
While losing will simply deprive you of money.
In all other cases, you must of course play aces - this is the best hand in Hold'em.
Always have to play wisely. Whatever hand was not
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Dymond
Enthusiast
Silver Level
If you're going to make the bubble if you fold the hand/ are certain that you will make the bubble, fold it. This is the one situation where you should fold aa. If you aren't sure you will make the bubble though I would play it as normal, probs a shove.
thetick33
Legend
Silver Level
I would not fold aa to bubble but i tend to go for it. I play freerolls all the time so can always play whether have a bank roll or not. The thing is I want a very very very large bankroll. I would 3 bet and hope to get reraised and get all in personally with aces every time even on bubble if is four people all in? I am good with it. Just my two cents winning a little is not worth it to me. Last night 25 left had a good read on villian he raised as had done out of position 11 times. I pushed all in with aj he had ak and called 9 of 11 times before that he shut down to an 3 bet reraise. I go with instincts and data etc.. I am happy to get it in there.
You have to have some luck there i was like 22 out of 25. Good enough stack but had made up mind on this guy. Yet I didnt want to win 15 more dollars or double my 15 win I wanted hundreds so I went for it.
The bubble is same thing. Every penny I play I can light on fire. So its about taking those chances that make sense and hoping you get lucky at times or your luck holds up if ahead
You have to have some luck there i was like 22 out of 25. Good enough stack but had made up mind on this guy. Yet I didnt want to win 15 more dollars or double my 15 win I wanted hundreds so I went for it.
The bubble is same thing. Every penny I play I can light on fire. So its about taking those chances that make sense and hoping you get lucky at times or your luck holds up if ahead
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Dymond
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Not if he's going to make the bubble and wants to cash
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Comix
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I would play it cautiously, like its a pair of 6's.....and get to a flop....it the flop is favorable, act accordingly.
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alexandro
Rock Star
Silver Level
ALL In-- Me personally... just won a tourney live at my local casino.... its amazing how things workout... first hand in the game i get taken out... was not happy so i re-enter again.... then took first place last 9 in the table we ask to see the break down of payout i was the chip leader. which i would get 1940 two guys said no play till the end i really didn't want to first hand i have K7 of spades guy who said play to the end AQ half my chips when to him now he was chip leader. bottom line i took first place. end up getting 2140 instead
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ph_il
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Silver Level
Because min-cashing is nowhere as significant as making it as deep as you can, or even winning an MTT.
By folding AA on the bubble, you give up a ton equity. More than simply cashing would net.
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ph_il
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Silver Level
This is silly. Of course there will be more favorable flops for AA than 66.
You also lose value by allowing opponents to see a flop and finding a reason to fold than if you were to get them to commit preflop.
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skaterick
Legend
Loyaler
You can fold AA in a supersatellite when you have plenty of chips ( and all cashes are equal ) if you surely can get a ticket . I cant imagine many other spots where I wouldn't play it hard and fast , even at the bubble .