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Hello all. I’m seeking advice on what area I should study first
Hello, I will try my best to inform you of my level.
I’ve played poker for about a year altogether. If I were to guess my rating I’d say advanced fish. I’ve never studied anything but have won a couple of welcome freerolls. What area should I look to improve first?
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Everything in poker compounds, think of it this way raise 2bb before the flop and then each consecutive bet is a half pot bet (this is just an example not a fact) so pre flop you raise 2bb and the small blind calls everyone else folds now there are 5bb in the pot your 2bb the small blinds 2bb and the 1bb folded by the big blind... so you raise half pot on flop 2.5bb and get called now there is 10bb in the pot and you do the same on the turn bet 5bb into 10bb and get called and on the river you bet 10bb into the 20bb... if you happen lose this hand by making a mistake depending on where you made the mistake each bet after the mistake got bigger and bigger meaning the earlier you made the mistake the more you've lost!
So take it one street at a time start with pre flop! Cut down pre flop mistakes and you've cut down the mistakes you make on the flop etc with hands that shouldn't be there... start with your ranges if you're happy with that then look into spots like with x stack size in early position, late position etc.... study button play and big blind play with stack sizes and actions of everyone else in the pot! That's where I'd start anyway!
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Have you viewed the tutorial on here, ‘Become A Winning Online Poker Player In 30 Day’s’ ? If you have is there a section in it that explains pre flop play?
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I always think about what's most common that will improve your game the quickest and most easiest I went with this order when I first I started with 1.opening this is the most common you want a fundamentally sound preflop game 2. calling a preflop raise 3. 3betting by posistion and sb play (some players in cash games have a 3b or fold strategy from this player you can look this up) 4. flop c-betting (c-betting big for value ) but also later knowing what kind of boards are good for your range later on for c-betting to take down the pot 5. calling flop c-betting some players might be a bit to fit or fold with this so its a good idea to call some c-bets with plans on taking down pots on the turn more often when you face button opens and you call from bb 6. x-raising some flops as bluffs with good backdoor equity and overcards 7. barreling turn as a semi bluff when you turn equity or as a bluff and it goes on ofcourse I can't go all day about what you should learn but notice how it all started with preflop then it went to flop and turn I would go on and learn some complex river situations just yet because in 60k hands on pokertracker there's only 63 hands ive bet flop turn and river so that would be even less for x-raise or AI on the river im assuming your completely new so some of these might not apply to you hope this helps
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Bankroll management and the fundamentals. Then learn the rest at your own pace.
Or just keep playing freerolls like a boss and don't give a f about boring theories and be in the 97% of players.
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Yes most of that is way above my level but I’ll be starting at ur first point on pre flop game and try to get a sound understanding of that. Thank you
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Yes I’ve poor bank management. I chip away at SnGs and then blow it all in tournaments because of greed 🙂 At the moment I am definitely in the 97% Thank you
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I’ve just watched 5 or 6 episodes that have brought me to pre flop play. Fingers crossed I’m off to play
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Ranges and combos Equity (odds : pot odds) Implied odds Fold equity Exploitative/GTO concepts I think we can play reazonably with that.
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Stuck at 8th at the William hill freeroll now are you playing?
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Each player has their own experience and style of play. It can always be different, depending on the players you play with. If you always play the same way, you will be quickly beaten.
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The areas I study first (and what order I study them in) depend on the direction I am approaching from but it usually will be one of these...
Eyes, face, T then A. Or... A, T, face then eyes. Make sense? Right, now that I've got that little bit of somewhat un-pc jesting out of the way (my apologies ladies), onto my "real" answer.. Now, Allyte..! Why on earth are you asking us, what you need to study, and in what order, for you only to reply "yeah, that's all above my level" after we've typed out some great suggestions for you?! You should (and will) instinctively know what areas you need to study first... What aspects of your poker game do you feel least comfortable with? Study those. What parts of poker strategy do you know least about? Study those. What types of poker do you want to play most often? (cash? tournament? HU? live? online?) Study strategy specific to those. What area of your game do you feel most confident with? Study that, to make sure your confidence is well-founded and accurate. Where's a good place to start studying, generally speaking? The begining! Look for content titles such as 'the fundamentals', 'beginners course', 'crash course' and '101'. If what you read is new to you, keep reading. If it's stuff that you already know, skip ahead a little! Once you've gone through that process, you'll be about ready to rinse, repeat and start it over again! What you study, when and for how long can have a big impact but as long as you're studying something helpful, anything, it's good! Do let me know if you'd like me to expand on or be more specific about any of this. No-one knows your poker game and where you're at in poker, better than you!
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It took me a minute to get that joke but I got there in the end. I did try explain my level at the start. I had never looked at any poker theory and wanted to dip my toes in to see the benefits, but did not know where. I got adviced to look at preflop and that has been great. I was amazed that I was a tight player and I was only getting more tight. Looking at pre flop odds have opened my eyes to loads more playing. For example I would have never played a K 8 s. I wanted the chance of a straight and a flush. Anyway I m working on that and thinking of players ranges more than just noticing if they play loose or tight. Odds and implied I’ve only just touched off and found out what a c-bet is. If you have any advice in what I’ve wrote above it would be appreciated!
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Also I play MTTs mostly and a small bit of SnG
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re: Poker & Hello all. I’m seeking advice on what area I should study first
often at the beginning of acquaintance with poker it seems that this is a lottery and a lot depends on luck or on some factors not related to the game itself, just play on the bankroll and you will understand that this is a simple and very difficult game, you will know all the charms of variance and downstream, without it this game is not
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I’ve a degree in accounting and can see how they apply but my god I am sick of them. Don’t even have the degree a year so the word still makes me 🤢
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Bankroll management and preflop ranges. You won't find good preflop ranges for free, especially SB, BB and 3bet-4bet ranges, but ask around and you someone might give you them for 20-30 bucks. Preflop ranges are absolutely the most important part of poker.
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If I have to pick only one topic of studying that would be the raise first in (RFI) ranges , and how to adapt based on the line up of players.
Without a solid pre flop game don't waste your energy and time in something else!
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This is what I’m going to try. Walk before I can run.
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I found the "Poker Strategy" tab at the top of the page to be very helpful. It may seem long at first to go thru, but if your serious about learning and improving, you can take them 1 at a time everyday. One way to do it is before spending hours playing on your favorite website, take the time to view 1 course and then start playing your daily fix of games. After a week or so of doing this you will see that you are all done.
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The guide on here is good but watching the videos is essential as the bulk of the content is there rather than in the PDF.
Not sure why so many seem to think bankroll management though, it's not really a skill to be learnt but rather a matter of discipline and understanding a few simple things. It's also wont help you a lot if you aren't good at poker.
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Thank you and are you referring to the become winning online player in 30 days ?
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Yes
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Have you checked out the new 30 day course that cardschat put together? It's very complete and will walk you step by step thru what you need to learn to do great! For some other supplementary videos this playlist is very beginner friendly (and will still teach you a lot of intermediate and advanced concepts throughout) - http://gripsed.com/win
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I’ve add this to my favourites after having a quick look. Greatly appreciated
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Thank you all for the advise. It only been a couple of weeks but I have read a bit regarding your advise and watched 12 days of the 'Winning online...30 Days' My last 3 SnGs I came third, first and first and in the last 2 weeks have cashed in 4 or 5 freerolls. I really hope these results were not only a coincidence and I have started to get a grounding in the game. Again thank you!
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checkout my mini bankroll challenge its not based on tournaments but its a real way of thinking about hands and seeing me at the moment going through the bad and the good it will be posted nearly every day with results and im honest about mistakes I make and what im going to do to fix them good luck at your games
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There is always more to learn and ways to improve. With time, study & practice you will keep improving. Sounds like you're starting to get to grips with it though, onwards & upwards!
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re: Poker & Hello all. I’m seeking advice on what area I should study first
Basics of Ranges, first yours then others.
If you start out with this in mind it will eventually become second nature and will be the foundation to build everything on. Put your real focus on other things to improve your game but sprinkle some study of ranges every day. Most players do this way later in there development but it takes a ton of time to develop and if done early could become a great foundation to build on.
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Besides the Cardschat course i can recommend the older Dan Harrington books:
D.H. on cash games if you are a cashgamer and D.H. on Holdem if youre a tourney fan these books are older but still a good basis
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Can you provide a link?
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More progess
I put money into my account for the first time. I didnt do well for about a week and then I realised that I had fallen back into my old ways. Im back on track In 2 SnGs i finished 2nd and had to leave the other In 90 player tourney I cashed in one and made the last 2 tables twice Again thanks for the advice and recommendations
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When I cashed I came 6th
When I failed on the second last tables I know my mistakes In one I shoved with pocket 88 and the other with pocket 7s Do you all see this as bad play Unless i hear different i hope i stay away nxt time unless Im small/ cutoff and there was no action What is tour opinion on shoving in that situation?
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It depends on your goal!
If you want to become a professional, the road is long. Practice a lot, read a lot of content, watch different videos and if you have the opportunity, join a poker team.
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I’ve put about €40 into accounts and took €500 plus a little out. On my progress I’ve cashed in 2 tournaments today. 2 long ass 3000+ tournaments I’ll sleep tonight
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First of all I would like to tell you that studying a little will be beneficial for you, but related to the style of play, I believe that if you start playing the sit's it will be great to build a graph and get a good base of the game in
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I think understanding position and range of play is a huge point for beginners or intermediate players to learn about.
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I’ve cashed in my last 4 games One 9 player One 45 and one 90player And PS $1:10 mtt. I hope it’s not just a coincidence 🙏
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I think this is what you are looking for: Becoming a Winning Poker Player in 30 Days
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Thank you
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In poker, all areas are important and you need to study them all together in stages.Players constantly model their game even though they play at a professional level.Search for training videos watch streams of professionals read training literature on the Internet.Analyze the hands you've played.Work on your mistakes.Live and learn!Good luck to you!
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My last few posts here have stated my progress. Today I cashed in 888 on the Twitter freeroll and the Instagram. Am I getting too ****y in believing I’ve improved so quickly? I’m not an idiot and not trying to brag, only prove I’m not, I’ve 2 uni honors degrees in accounting and law. Please be blunt, am I only on a good run? If you don’t think so, what game at micro level would I be best to learn and profit in? Also thanks for the advice that I believe has led to an improvement!
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Don't forget that if you multi-quote ten posts, and want to reply to them individually, you can type in between each quoted post too. Your text doesn't have to exclusively be after the quotes, it can be between them as well.. ~~~~~~ Now, on to your question... Similarly to 'what to study first', I can't tell you whether your recent results were down to a lucky run or astute play... The reason (as poker players) we don't focus on results is because we can play badly and win, and equally, play great and lose. The only way to determine whether we have made good decisions (i.e. 'played well') is through analysis, which is one of the reasons it's important and beneficial to track and review our play. My intuition tells me that your good results are due to you boldly playing your heart out while applying the principles you've been studying, but what do I have to go on beyond my gut? The more consistently you achieve good results, the less likely it is purely down to chance. Keep studying, keep practicing (what you learn while studying) at the felt and keep analysing your play after the fact. From what I've read, I don't think you're arrogant about improving rapidly... Probably just a quick learner and transferring knowledge & skills from your degrees and life experience to poker. While you keep chalking up more wins and good results, my advice to you now is to be disciplined with your BRM (BankRoll Management) and to just keep building... We get good runs and bad runs, the important thing is not to get too carried away with either and to stay focused on that which we have control. I'm very pleased to read of your triumphs and look forward to reading about many more in future! Regards. ~EDIT:- Who do you have to prove 'not being an idiot' to?
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Glad I helped in some way and that you are interested in getting better and better. Friend, the recommended level to keep your bankroll healthy is that the tournament entry is equivalent to 150-200 entries example bankroll $ 150 1 or $ 1.5 tournaments
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